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Post by stuttgartershrew on Mar 19, 2024 7:54:59 GMT 1
On the face of it this looks decent enough and well overdue... Historic football governance bill introduced in parliament
Just sharing the information available on the Town website having read that this morning, I gather there will be others reporting on this elsewhere that will be worth a look. Looks as though they are bringing in something similar to what we have here in Germany with licensing. As I understand it here, such as now looking to next season, clubs need to apply for a license for whatever level they think they will be playing at the next season and then certain criteria need to be met in order to do so. So I gather that's means an awful lot more transparency than perhaps is currently available within the English game at the moment. Season after season checks as it were; so hopefully if clubs do start to get into trouble its spotted early enough and they will see an immediate impact if they fail to meet the requirements for a certain level. Maybe anyhow. Hopefully we'll know more in time. But looks good.
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Post by Dancin on Mar 19, 2024 8:33:43 GMT 1
This is probably going to come to late for Reading?
The Reading FC Trust Chairwoman/Leader just on Five Live talking about this; commented that apparently not everyone has been paid last months wages again. More points deductions coming in for them?
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Mar 19, 2024 8:55:19 GMT 1
This is probably going to come to late for Reading? The Reading FC Trust Chairwoman/Leader just on Five Live talking about this; commented that apparently not everyone has been paid last months wages again. More points deductions coming in for them? Good question that as I'm not sure when all this will be introduced and will take effect. But as to whether its too late for Reading; to get them out of whatever trouble they now find themselves in, you would think so. However, they may now find themselves a bit of a test case with the new regulations. So it will be interesting to see what happens. I guess we need the details of what might happen to those clubs who find themselves in trouble, in certain situations; if it will mean points deductions, whether they will fail to gain a license for the 3rd next season (if it works like that, that's not clear to me) or whatever. Hopefully more information will become available.
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Post by servernaside on Mar 19, 2024 10:04:31 GMT 1
it might be a step forward, but the road to hell is often paved with good intentions.
It remains to be seen whether our elected politicians can ever create anything that isn't an utter disaster.
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Post by ssshrew on Mar 19, 2024 10:08:27 GMT 1
Ofcom, Ofwatch, Ofsted all spring to mind I’m afraid.
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Post by servernaside on Mar 19, 2024 17:35:40 GMT 1
Ofcom, Ofwatch, Ofsted all spring to mind I’m afraid. Offside even
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Post by Pilch on Mar 19, 2024 17:44:54 GMT 1
This is probably going to come to late for Reading? The Reading FC Trust Chairwoman/Leader just on Five Live talking about this; commented that apparently not everyone has been paid last months wages again. More points deductions coming in for them? that's a guy who isn't far off being a billionaire , who just doesnt care any more about Reading and enjoys playing cat and mouse with the tax man, always pays on the final day and not worried about points deductions any idea how guys like him will be dealt with in the future ?
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Post by harboroughshrew on Mar 19, 2024 19:14:28 GMT 1
Omar Beckles (in his PFA role) has just been interviewed about this on BBC news at 6.
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Post by suttonshrew on Mar 19, 2024 22:27:47 GMT 1
3 years of hard work getting to this stage, as always the devil will be in the detail.
Looking forward to reading the fine print but early indications look positive and I hope will push the prem into some sort of action with their offer to the EFL
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Post by davycrockett on Mar 20, 2024 10:03:37 GMT 1
3 years of hard work getting to this stage, as always the devil will be in the detail. Looking forward to reading the fine print but early indications look positive and I hope will push the prem into some sort of action with their offer to the EFL Great work in getting it this far, a big commitment 👏 As a matter of interest what sort of difference in funding are we hoping for, if it can put it simply? Would we want a regulator to step in and save badly run clubs like Bury?
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Post by suttonshrew on Mar 20, 2024 18:31:46 GMT 1
I think the main aim is to ensure clubs can’t get to that point and things would be picked up way before we got to another Bury.
As for funding it all depends on the deal and what the EFL and Prem agree on, I highly doubt either side would wish a regulator to set that deal as then it’s out of their control.
If you go with the current deal, off the top of my head year 1 is an increase of around £13m to league 1 clubs, increasing each year over a 6 year deal, this money is on top of the current payments, so it’s a fair chunk of money to us, so around an extra 500k a season increasing from there at this level.
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Post by servernaside on Mar 20, 2024 19:42:01 GMT 1
Although the filtering down of funds to lower leagues is welcome, I suspect that, as we have seen in the PL increased revenues go straight out of the door in the shape of inflated transfer fees, inflated agents fees and inflated player salaries. Not really what you might describe as an investment for the future.
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Post by Pilch on Mar 20, 2024 19:54:19 GMT 1
the annoying thing is the premier league have been sitting all this time over talks with over £1 Billion in the bank
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Mar 21, 2024 13:31:35 GMT 1
Not sure what checks are made at the moment, I gather there is something for prospective owners to make sure they are "fit and proper" but not sure what checks are made against clubs until, I gather, they have already run into issues and forced into administration or such like. So if there is to be regular checks, perhaps as part of some licensing (although not sure that has been finalized and agreed upon) then it would hopefully flag and catch issues before they are allowed to get serious enough to pose a real threat to the club. If it can work like that then it sounds a welcome move.
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Post by davycrockett on Mar 21, 2024 13:41:04 GMT 1
Not sure what checks are made at the moment, I gather there is something for prospective owners to make sure they are "fit and proper" but not sure what checks are made against clubs until, I gather, they have already run into issues and forced into administration or such like. So if there is to be regular checks, perhaps as part of some licensing (although not sure that has been finalized and agreed upon) then it would hopefully flag and catch issues before they are allowed to get serious enough to pose a real threat to the club. If it can work like that then it sounds a welcome move. There are regular checks now with every club having to give a pre season 'projection' of expected turnover with regular updates to see if they're online for FFP .. Is a regulator going to be able to take on Man City etc with their 40 plus charges through the courts, the Premier League can't control them only minnows like NF and Everton. A regulator will be welcome could he be challenged through the courts?
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Mar 21, 2024 14:23:48 GMT 1
Not sure what checks are made at the moment, I gather there is something for prospective owners to make sure they are "fit and proper" but not sure what checks are made against clubs until, I gather, they have already run into issues and forced into administration or such like. So if there is to be regular checks, perhaps as part of some licensing (although not sure that has been finalized and agreed upon) then it would hopefully flag and catch issues before they are allowed to get serious enough to pose a real threat to the club. If it can work like that then it sounds a welcome move. There are regular checks now with every club having to give a pre season 'projection' of expected turnover with regular updates to see if they're online for FFP .. Is a regulator going to be able to take on Man City etc with their 40 plus charges through the courts, the Premier League can't control them only minnows like NF and Everton. A regulator will be welcome could he be challenged through the courts? Good point about FFP, so there are already some checks ongoing. Perhaps they'll be more thorough going forward and looking beyond expected turnover. I mean I am unsure whether the EFL is currently taking a deeper dive to the account of clubs to check their financial situation. Perhaps that will come. As for Manchester, Everton etc., to be honest I don't really care what goes on up there. I'm very much focused on what can be done to keep EFL clubs alive and kicking. The Premier League is what it is, I'm more than happy to leave them to it.
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Post by dibblydobbly on Mar 28, 2024 16:59:53 GMT 1
Not sure what checks are made at the moment, I gather there is something for prospective owners to make sure they are "fit and proper" but not sure what checks are made against clubs until, I gather, they have already run into issues and forced into administration or such like. So if there is to be regular checks, perhaps as part of some licensing (although not sure that has been finalized and agreed upon) then it would hopefully flag and catch issues before they are allowed to get serious enough to pose a real threat to the club. If it can work like that then it sounds a welcome move. There are regular checks now with every club having to give a pre season 'projection' of expected turnover with regular updates to see if they're online for FFP .. Is a regulator going to be able to take on Man City etc with their 40 plus charges through the courts, the Premier League can't control them only minnows like NF and Everton. A regulator will be welcome could he be challenged through the courts? Yes, but the cost would be prohibitve for League one for a single club
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