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Post by FloreatShrew on Mar 12, 2024 8:40:51 GMT 1
Still think it's a must not lose, but just got a feeling things are starting to click and fall into place.
Definitely one for Bowman to play, I'd even drop Udoh to keep him fit for Saturday.
Honestly the Vale result has been so important 👏
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Mar 12, 2024 8:57:33 GMT 1
...and they are very good at set plays. Maybe he's speaking after having looked at the Vale game as it was two corners that brought about our goals. As I do wonder when this is said of us (and I have heard it a fair few times this season as I tend to listen to the commentary from the opposition coverage) because considering the amount of goals we have scored this season, we're really not are we?
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Post by scooter on Mar 12, 2024 9:41:59 GMT 1
...and they are very good at set plays. Maybe he's speaking after having looked at the Vale game as it was two corners that brought about our goals. As I do wonder when this is said of us (and I have heard it a fair few times this season as I tend to listen to the commentary from the opposition coverage) because considering the amount of goals we have scored this season, we're really not are we? As we score so few, I think you will find that quite a high % are from set pieces. Both were on Saturday, Shipley’s at Reading comes to mind
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Mar 12, 2024 9:48:23 GMT 1
Maybe he's speaking after having looked at the Vale game as it was two corners that brought about our goals. As I do wonder when this is said of us (and I have heard it a fair few times this season as I tend to listen to the commentary from the opposition coverage) because considering the amount of goals we have scored this season, we're really not are we? As we score so few, I think you will find that quite a high % are from set pieces. Both were on Saturday, Shipley’s at Reading comes to mind Could be. I suppose we can still be scoring more than others from set pieces even though we score so few in the grand scheme of things. Whether the stats bear that out though I'm not sure. Here's hoping we can pull something off from the training ground again this evening anyhow. Stats available for all sorts now. According to the 'Who Scored' website (first time I have come across it so not sure how accurate) we have scored 13 from open play, puts us 23rd (one place above Carlisle who are bottom in that regard) and 11 from set pieces which puts us midtable and on the same number as Barnsley, Oxford and Orient. No penalties so far this season according to those stats. I suppose that could be down to the amount of time we spend in the opposition penalty box. My bad, seems we have been awarded a penalty but I guess we missed it (so that would be penalties scored I was looking at, not awarded).
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Post by secretshrew on Mar 12, 2024 10:25:37 GMT 1
Like others I agree that it’s wise to rotate. I don’t care if players aren’t here next season.
Difficult to drop Udoh as he scored on Saturday but I do think, along with Bayliss, that he struggles to deliver 2 games consecutively - maybe still not 100% after his injury. But I’d be keen to change after 50-55 minutes with a view to this Saturday but all depends how the game is evolving.
Perhaps Sobowole, Perry & a surprising start for Flanagan?
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Post by ProudSalopian on Mar 12, 2024 10:56:19 GMT 1
Someone's just pointed out to me that we've scored 28 this season whilst they've scored 29. Odds on a repeat of last seasons 3-2?
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Post by chirkshrew on Mar 12, 2024 11:08:17 GMT 1
I'd swap it about,and take Exeter by surprise...drop bayliss if he can't manage 2 games(why I don't know)put sobowale or Perry in....yep maybe put Flanagan in,and try him out.....still a tough game.... I'll go 1-1....be a close one
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Post by Minormorris64 on Mar 12, 2024 11:34:49 GMT 1
Someone's just pointed out to me that we've scored 28 this season whilst they've scored 29. Odds on a repeat of last seasons 3-2? Both have conceded 52 !
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Post by edgmond on Mar 12, 2024 12:34:43 GMT 1
0-0 then 😃
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Post by edgmond on Mar 12, 2024 13:42:05 GMT 1
I'd swap it about,and take Exeter by surprise...drop bayliss if he can't manage 2 games(why I don't know)put sobowale or Perry in....yep maybe put Flanagan in,and try him out.....still a tough game.... I'll go 1-1....be a close one I think that when Hurst talks about lack of fitness he’s probably thinking of Bayliss and Shipley and contrasting them with the likes of Godfrey and Ogogo. Hence the struggling with two games in 3/4 days thing. I agree it would be better to start brightly with some fresher players. Those rested can always come off the bench if needed.
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Post by blamber on Mar 12, 2024 14:11:32 GMT 1
I would keep the back 4 the same, but do a bit of chopping and changing everywhere else. Keep things tight and simple. No majors if we dont come away with 3 points, as long as we are fresher for Carlisle. Marosi Feeney - Dunks - Sraha - Benning Benno - Kenneh - Hinchy Bloxham - Bayliss Bowman I think we'd be practically handing them 3 points with that side. Without Winchester, Shipley and Udoh we are pretty toothless. I have a feeling that either Winchester or Shipley may be injured. I wouldn't trust Kennah or Perry to come in although if Winchester is unavailable Kennah is probably the one to come in, despite his inability to make a simple pass. Just goes to show that beyond our first choice XI options are severely limited.
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Post by chirkshrew on Mar 12, 2024 14:23:37 GMT 1
Obviously bayliss and Shipley are not a patch on Godfrey and ogogo...these 2 kept going for 90+.....Shipley and bayliss definitely drop off after 70 mins.....not a lot Hurst can do about it now,only drop one of them,and bring him on near the end.they we're both supposed to be cotterills quality signings..... I've only seen it in little spurts🤷🤷
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Post by blamber on Mar 12, 2024 14:39:09 GMT 1
Obviously bayliss and Shipley are not a patch on Godfrey and ogogo...these 2 kept going for 90+.....Shipley and bayliss definitely drop off after 70 mins.....not a lot Hurst can do about it now,only drop one of them,and bring him on near the end.they we're both supposed to be cotterills quality signings..... I've only seen it in little spurts🤷🤷 None of our players in recent times come anywhere near Godfrey. I think Shipley has offered a consistent threat down that left hand side since he came to the club. He's a very decent player at this level in my opinion and we'd struggle without him. Bayliss did much better and more consistently under Cotterill although he got injured and was out for while towards the end of last season. In my opinion he's been patchy since that injury. But he's a player that is currently vital given our severe lack of depth beyond our first choice XI. Taylor just never got the players fit enough - particularly Shipley and Bayiss who seem to fade in the final stages of games - which is unforgivable.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Mar 12, 2024 14:45:42 GMT 1
Our home form has been poor and we need to build up some momentum but our lack of fitness is a real issue. I hope we can get at least a draw as for this a must not lose game and give 150% on Saturday to get a must win 3 points.
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Post by servernaside on Mar 12, 2024 14:50:30 GMT 1
Bowman ?
Only if we're playing for a 0-0 draw
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Post by ProudSalopian on Mar 12, 2024 15:27:05 GMT 1
Obviously bayliss and Shipley are not a patch on Godfrey and ogogo...these 2 kept going for 90+.....Shipley and bayliss definitely drop off after 70 mins.....not a lot Hurst can do about it now,only drop one of them,and bring him on near the end.they we're both supposed to be cotterills quality signings..... I've only seen it in little spurts🤷🤷 Our top 3 contributors this season in terms of goals & assists are Shipley, Udoh & Bayliss (in that order) so personally I'd be looking to start all 3 as much as possible. Get points on board as soon as we can, if they are knackered then they can rest when we are safe.
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Post by dibblydobbly on Mar 12, 2024 15:30:20 GMT 1
Obviously bayliss and Shipley are not a patch on Godfrey and ogogo...these 2 kept going for 90+.....Shipley and bayliss definitely drop off after 70 mins.....not a lot Hurst can do about it now,only drop one of them,and bring him on near the end.they we're both supposed to be cotterills quality signings..... I've only seen it in little spurts🤷🤷 Our top 3 contributors this season in terms of goals & assists are Shipley, Udoh & Bayliss (in that order) so personally I'd be looking to start all 3 as much as possible. Get points on board as soon as we can, if they are knackered then they can rest when we are safe. Still 5 subs per game allowed if they fade after 60 mins
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Post by chirkshrew on Mar 12, 2024 15:39:13 GMT 1
Well, what were Shipley and bayliss like at port vale???
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Mar 12, 2024 15:44:17 GMT 1
Bowman ? Only if we're playing for a 0-0 draw Bowman not the player he was 2 or 3 years ago. But he does like to play (& score) against Exeter. Be surprised if he doesnt play some part tonight after not featuring Saturday.
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Post by chirkshrew on Mar 12, 2024 15:54:46 GMT 1
Can see tulloch getting a run out tonight.....why not..... he'll be chomping at the bit to get a contract next season👍👍
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Mar 12, 2024 16:14:31 GMT 1
Bowman ? Only if we're playing for a 0-0 draw Bowman not the player he was 2 or 3 years ago. But he does like to play (& score) against Exeter. Be surprised if he doesnt play some part tonight after not featuring Saturday. Where does this come from? Since we signed Bowman from Exeter in summer of 2021, ours and his record against them is as follows: 21/22 - no matches as Exeter were in L2 22/23 - a 3-2 home win, Bowman didn’t score and only played the last 20 minutes. A 0-0 away draw where he played the whole game. 23/24 - a 0-0 away draw where he played the whole game. I’d be delighted for him to prove me wrong tonight, but a knackered Udoh offers twice as much as Bowman can these days. He was deservedly out of the squad on Saturday, I think Hurst’s seen enough.
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Post by mrcricket on Mar 12, 2024 16:22:54 GMT 1
A little off thread but why are Exeter (and Plymouth) games always on a Tuesday night given the huge distance between the areas? Away thought they'd make good away days. I suspect also that, while it this a long way for us, it is much longer for other clubs in the league to travel to Devon mid week if they are are further north or east. Thanks all. Wasn't sure if it was something to do with the team travelling up during the daytime.
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Post by belfastshrew on Mar 12, 2024 16:35:04 GMT 1
Bowman stats since Hurst joined us:
Approx 245 mins played of 810 available
0 goals 0 assists
Of the 9 matches, he has:
Started = 2 Subbed on = 4 Unused sub = 2 Not in match squad = 1
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Post by chirkshrew on Mar 12, 2024 16:42:12 GMT 1
He'll be alright if there defence needs 'roughing up'👍
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Post by martinshrew on Mar 12, 2024 17:07:38 GMT 1
Town 9/5 in places seems pretty hefty!
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Post by Worthingshrew on Mar 12, 2024 17:54:38 GMT 1
My first home game for two and a half years! Will also be there Saturday as staying in Shrewsbury (Old Meadow apartment) for the week.
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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on Mar 12, 2024 18:23:43 GMT 1
I would keep the back 4 the same, but do a bit of chopping and changing everywhere else. Keep things tight and simple. No majors if we dont come away with 3 points, as long as we are fresher for Carlisle. Marosi Feeney - Dunks - Sraha - Benning Benno - Kenneh - Hinchy Bloxham - Bayliss Bowman Really can't see that level of changes. Last time Bennett and Kenneh started they were both hooked at half time. And Bowman didn't even make the squad on Saturday. I expect to see the same team as Saturday to be honest. Maybe with some earlier changes though and more of them. Last Tuesday game had all 5 subs used, and 4 were made by 75 mins.
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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on Mar 12, 2024 18:26:44 GMT 1
My first home game for two and a half years! Will also be there Saturday as staying in Shrewsbury (Old Meadow apartment) for the week. Enjoy! Surely due a win then!
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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on Mar 12, 2024 18:38:39 GMT 1
Maybe he's speaking after having looked at the Vale game as it was two corners that brought about our goals. As I do wonder when this is said of us (and I have heard it a fair few times this season as I tend to listen to the commentary from the opposition coverage) because considering the amount of goals we have scored this season, we're really not are we? As we score so few, I think you will find that quite a high % are from set pieces. Both were on Saturday, Shipley’s at Reading comes to mind 39% of towns league goals are from set pieces. Can't see as a comparison percentage wise to other clubs but quick scan says town definitely higher than most. Tonight's opponents are the next lowest scorers (Exeter have scored 29 v towns 28) in the league and have only scored 6 from set pieces compared to towns 11. poorer sides will often have a higher percentage of set piece goals as they will get less open play chances though. Cheltenham and Carlisle for example have both scored 12 from set pieces. Do note that neither Exeter or town have scored a penalty this season, so sods law suggests there will be one tonight!
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Post by Pilch on Mar 12, 2024 18:39:10 GMT 1
I would keep the back 4 the same, but do a bit of chopping and changing everywhere else. Keep things tight and simple. No majors if we dont come away with 3 points, as long as we are fresher for Carlisle. Marosi Feeney - Dunks - Sraha - Benning Benno - Kenneh - Hinchy Bloxham - Bayliss Bowman barring forced changes I think we will start unchanged . the bench might have a couple of changes if anything
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