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Post by Valerioch on Mar 9, 2024 19:55:45 GMT 1
I don’t think we played very well today, but we fought hard, and ground out a vitally important 3 points
MOTM Marosi for 3 great saves
Well done Town - almost there
Bonus prize - we’ve effectively sent them down again 😂
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Post by Chief Inspector Swan on Mar 9, 2024 20:04:13 GMT 1
Bonus prize - we’ve effectively sent them down again 😂 Hurst pops a huge nail in Vale’s coffin for both of their two most recent League One relegations. Glorious stuff. Who can forget the unbridled rage and fury of @davycrockett that the chant “Junior Brown sent the Vale down” in 2016/17 wasn’t *literally* true. Whilst Davy is an excellent poster and an esteemed fellow, I trust he’s in a more forgiving mood this season for any Vale terrace jibes.
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Post by gtismygod on Mar 9, 2024 20:11:24 GMT 1
Absolutely huge result. I didn’t fancy us to see the game out after they pulled one back. They can count themselves seriously unlucky to come away from that with nothing, but I don’t think performances even matter a great deal at this stage to be honest.
Marosi - 9 - two saves in the first half that almost defied belief Feeney - 6 - looked solid today which is all you can ask of a centre half playing RB Dunkley - 7 - aerially dominant as always Sraha - 6 - also looked solid Benning - 7 - typical busy performance, and a great cross for Udoh’s goal Winchester - 6 - not his best game but didn’t play badly either Hinchy - 6 - quite quiet Bloxham - 7 - wasn’t in the game too much, but his goal well Bayliss - 6 - didn’t see much of the ball but helped to see the game out smartly down in the corner at the end Shipley - 5 - also very quiet, and probably should’ve buried that chance Udoh - 8 - back to his usual self today, excellent hold up play and working relentlessly
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Post by mahoney on Mar 9, 2024 20:36:04 GMT 1
Massive win.
Hurst commented after the game that fitness levels aren't where he would want them to be. I know it's been said a lot on here and I presume Hurst is commenting based on data. I can never get my head around why some managers (or head coaches) don't make fitness an absolute priority. Surely it is an absolute given that you get players as fit as you possibly can. Is there a down side to doing this?
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Post by gtismygod on Mar 9, 2024 20:45:03 GMT 1
Massive win. Hurst commented after the game that fitness levels aren't where he would want them to be. I know it's been said a lot on here and I presume Hurst is commenting based on data. I can never get my head around why some managers (or head coaches) don't make fitness an absolute priority. Surely it is an absolute given that you get players as fit as you possibly can. Is there a down side to doing this? The players looked dead on their feet in that last twenty minutes. I think they’ll usually train Mondays, Tuesdays, Thursdays and Fridays, with the players having Wednesdays and Sundays as days off. So that’s only four days of training per week. They’ll probably be doing recovery work on the Monday after a game, and they’d be doing low intensity tactical work on Fridays the day before a game. That’s only really leaves Tuesdays and Thursdays to do high intensity fitness work. And if you’ve got a double gameweek with a Tuesday night game then you have even less time to work on fitness. I think Hurst will need a full pre-season to get them to where they need to be fitness-wise.
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Post by mahoney on Mar 9, 2024 20:48:08 GMT 1
Yeah, I don't think there's a lot Hurst can do now probably without over fatiguing the player and making things worse. But what were they doing pre season?
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Post by martinshrew on Mar 9, 2024 20:50:03 GMT 1
Yeah, I don't think there's a lot Hurst can do now probably without over fatiguing the player and making things worse. But what were they doing pre season? In Dubai with Cotts 🎉
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Post by servernaside on Mar 9, 2024 20:52:34 GMT 1
My decision not to go proved to be a good one. Another three points on the road. I may now decide not to go to any of the remaining away games. Should be safe then.
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Post by chirkshrew on Mar 9, 2024 20:58:09 GMT 1
There's fit...which we are just about.....then there's really fit....which we WILL be next season....make no mistake 👍👍
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Post by chirkshrew on Mar 9, 2024 21:00:38 GMT 1
Think we'll target Bristol away as the other away win...last time under Hurst,I can remember the Rodman last minute winner...great goal
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Mar 9, 2024 21:00:48 GMT 1
Both teams had chances, luckily we had Marosi back, one of his defining performances.
Up the Salop, safety within touching distance now.
It’s been great to see the away backing since Hurst returned, with decent numbers and terrific support at Northampton, Derby, Reading and today, and being rewarded with points.
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Post by suttonshrew on Mar 9, 2024 21:01:59 GMT 1
Massive win. Hurst commented after the game that fitness levels aren't where he would want them to be. I know it's been said a lot on here and I presume Hurst is commenting based on data. I can never get my head around why some managers (or head coaches) don't make fitness an absolute priority. Surely it is an absolute given that you get players as fit as you possibly can. Is there a down side to doing this? [br We also know PH and CD like their players fit! Last time they had us the fittest I’ve ever seen our side. Think it shows Taylor’s training wasn’t where it needed to be and that’s thrown us for this season. PH will have whoever is playing for us next season fit and wanting to run through walls for him, no doubt about that
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Post by gainsparkshrew on Mar 9, 2024 21:05:11 GMT 1
A slight change of direction. Just had a look on the Vale message board. Boy can those guys talk,and moan, 50 pages at 15 posts per page,both pre and post match. General consensus.. they're down😁😁
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Post by tarporleyblue on Mar 9, 2024 21:13:28 GMT 1
A slight change of direction. Just had a look on the Vale message board. Boy can those guys talk,and moan, 50 pages at 15 posts per page,both pre and post match. General consensus.. they're down😁😁 The new manager bounce has certainly not worked so far for them... 5 defeats out of 6 since Moore signed on a 5.5 year contract.
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Post by edgmond on Mar 9, 2024 21:13:44 GMT 1
Think we'll target Bristol away as the other away win...last time under Hurst,I can remember the Rodman last minute winner...great goal Certainly a great goal and wonderful work on the left by Rodman, but it was Toto who scored. Rodman did try to claim it and it may have been going in at the far post, but Nsiala definitely headed it over the line.
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Post by mrcricket on Mar 9, 2024 21:20:03 GMT 1
Question, is the Port Vale pitch particularly wide? I don't normally sit behind the goal but I thought it looked wide today. Perhaps that contributed to the fitness issues towards the end.
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Post by darkshrew on Mar 9, 2024 21:33:16 GMT 1
Absolutely huge result. I didn’t fancy us to see the game out after they pulled one back. They can count themselves seriously unlucky to come away from that with nothing, but I don’t think performances even matter a great deal at this stage to be honest. Marosi - 9 - two saves in the first half that almost defied belief Feeney - 6 - looked solid today which is all you can ask of a centre half playing RB Dunkley - 7 - aerially dominant as always Sraha - 6 - also looked solid Benning - 7 - typical busy performance, and a great cross for Udoh’s goal Winchester - 6 - not his best game but didn’t play badly either Hinchy - 6 - quite quiet Bloxham - 7 - wasn’t in the game too much, but his goal well Bayliss - 6 - didn’t see much of the ball but helped to see the game out smartly down in the corner at the end Shipley - 5 - also very quiet, and probably should’ve buried that chance Udoh - 8 - back to his usual self today, excellent hold up play and working relentlessly Agree performance is far less important than the result. Some generous marks there imo. I thought we were really poor and only Benning and Marosi came out with any credit. Hinchy had his worst game by far. Dunkley and Sraha looked far from solid. Udoh was ok at best. Bayliss, Shipley, Bloxham and Winchester were all below par.
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Post by ssshrew on Mar 9, 2024 21:44:10 GMT 1
And yet Udoh and Bloxham scored goals which is what we want them to do?!
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Post by gtismygod on Mar 9, 2024 21:45:05 GMT 1
Absolutely huge result. I didn’t fancy us to see the game out after they pulled one back. They can count themselves seriously unlucky to come away from that with nothing, but I don’t think performances even matter a great deal at this stage to be honest. Marosi - 9 - two saves in the first half that almost defied belief Feeney - 6 - looked solid today which is all you can ask of a centre half playing RB Dunkley - 7 - aerially dominant as always Sraha - 6 - also looked solid Benning - 7 - typical busy performance, and a great cross for Udoh’s goal Winchester - 6 - not his best game but didn’t play badly either Hinchy - 6 - quite quiet Bloxham - 7 - wasn’t in the game too much, but his goal well Bayliss - 6 - didn’t see much of the ball but helped to see the game out smartly down in the corner at the end Shipley - 5 - also very quiet, and probably should’ve buried that chance Udoh - 8 - back to his usual self today, excellent hold up play and working relentlessly Agree performance is far less important than the result. Some generous marks there imo. I thought we were really poor and only Benning and Marosi came out with any credit. Hinchy had his worst game by far. Dunkley and Sraha looked far from solid. Udoh was ok at best. Bayliss, Shipley, Bloxham and Winchester were all below par. Yeah I’ve just watched the highlights - I’ve definitely been generous with Dunkley and Sraha. Some questionable defending at times.
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Post by mahoney on Mar 9, 2024 21:45:39 GMT 1
There's fit...which we are just about.....then there's really fit....which we WILL be next season....make no mistake 👍👍 But what would prevent a manager from deciding they want their players to be 'really fit '? Serious question. Worried about injuries or fatigue, takes time away from other training priorities, don't think it's necessary, players don't like it?
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Post by chirkshrew on Mar 9, 2024 21:54:32 GMT 1
To actually last the 90 minutes and more... we're blowing through our arses after 75.....it does make a hell of a difference....and don't bother running on the pitch at the start if your not!!!🤷🤷
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Mar 9, 2024 21:55:33 GMT 1
Feeney bailed out the back two a number of times today by covering their arses from the right back position, not the sort of performance that will have people raving, but should be noted as we’re quick enough to note his bad games.
Dunkley definitely looks more shakey of recent times, but if that’s the price to pay for seeing us play a back four with a high line, it’s a price worth paying. Any defender can look good in a back five sat deep just heading and clearing balls.
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Post by welshshrew on Mar 9, 2024 21:55:43 GMT 1
Extraordinary take from darkshrew.
First half, we were indebted to one great and one elite level save from Marosi. Defensively were shaky at best but looked ok going forwards.
Second half, we managed the game extremely well after the goal. Dunkley (who was off for the first half) was exceptional the last 15 minutes. Feeney was very solid also.
Fitness defo an issue but they did not stop and there was no lack of effort and we created more than enough to win the game.
Well done PH and team.
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Post by chirkshrew on Mar 9, 2024 21:55:51 GMT 1
Hurst not happy with fitness levels,last 20....no more to be said🤷🤷
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Post by mrcricket on Mar 9, 2024 22:00:44 GMT 1
Marosi was the difference,
Dunkley did well to marshall the back line, Feeney and Benning did well, but I was surprised at how much Sraha was pulling his opposite number's shirt, not a great sign.
I'm glad Udoh and Bloxham scored, they were the likely outlets, Winchester was battling hard but I thought some of the midfield were passengers.
How bad of a team are Port Vale, I almost felt sorry for them.
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Post by belfastshrew on Mar 9, 2024 22:08:20 GMT 1
There's fit...which we are just about.....then there's really fit....which we WILL be next season....make no mistake 👍👍 We have no idea what Hurst's contract is my friend. I'm sure most of us would like him here next season
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Post by chirkshrew on Mar 9, 2024 22:37:42 GMT 1
Who mentioned Hurst??🤷🤷in my last post🤷
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Post by staffordshrew on Mar 9, 2024 22:40:27 GMT 1
If Vale go down it's a local derby gone, though would gladly replace with Stoke, but they have now woken up. Rather local derby was Port Vale than Wrexham.
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Post by shrewsburytownfan on Mar 9, 2024 22:40:43 GMT 1
A slight change of direction. Just had a look on the Vale message board. Boy can those guys talk,and moan, 50 pages at 15 posts per page,both pre and post match. General consensus.. they' re down😁😁 We shouldn't want vale go down really as there a local game a side that fill our away end and one we take a 1000 too. They could be replaced by barrow who will bring 200 and we would take 300 there. Wrexham and Stockport will fill our away end but they only allocate 1100 and 900 so poor allocations. We were poor today really but the keeper made a few decent saves against a cake side with no confidence and basically an error prone team. David flitcroft who is director of football at vale was responsible for bury going bust basically overspending on signing players like Danny mayor James Vaughan and Leon Clarke for bury on 4k gates. People shouldn't wish clubs go under but I generally think some of our lot would be happy to see vale go bust and I honestly think in the next few seasons they will be.
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Post by shrewsburytownfan on Mar 9, 2024 22:43:24 GMT 1
I also want say we only won today due to how bad vale are. I'd say there the worst side in the league and we won't play a worse side than them. We are now on 41pts need about 50 stay up but we got okay better than today to win games as nobody in this division will be as bad as vale are.
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