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Post by davycrockett on Dec 19, 2023 16:07:22 GMT 1
Not sure how this will work but in an effort to stop threads being taken off topic any posts that are either off topic or designed to take the discussion off topic will be moved here.
We’ve had the ‘joke’ about anti town fans, it’s only funny once ….. pathetic attempts at irony just cause arguments. The same posters try and hijack threads for their own agenda and to draw other posters in. It’s going to stop.
please read the rule on spamming. I’ll highlight the important bit.
10 - Spam - Spamming the board is strictly prohibited and will result in preventative and disciplinary measures being taken by the B and A moderating team. A poster will be deemed to be spamming if, in the opinion of the board moderators, he or she is posting excessively on the board on the same subject or similar subjects, to the extent that it is causing annoyance or inconvenience to board users.
Make your point but move on, if you don’t agree, politely say why but remember you might be wrong. We’re all different.
No doubt mistakes will be made and innocent posts moved but hopefully it will stop the continual childish spats….
Hopefully we won’t have to move anything just try and make this a friendly fun place.
(offensive personal or troublesome posts will be r3moved to a safe place)
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Post by martinshrew on Dec 19, 2023 18:40:38 GMT 1
Make your point but move on, if you don’t agree, politely say why but remember you might be wrong. We’re all different. Looking forward to this example being set from the top down, the board will be a far, far better place for it! 👍 Good work Davey!
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Post by DiglisShrew on Dec 19, 2023 20:31:06 GMT 1
I thought the radio show Just A minute had good rules in No Hesitation No Deviation No Repetition
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Post by Valerioch on Dec 19, 2023 22:25:29 GMT 1
I'm not sure how reliable this site but came across it. Of course there is the odd outlier but not surprisingly when you look at the top 6 and bottom 4, generally the trend is the more of the ball you have, the more successful you are likely to be. Portsmouth (1st in the stats) Peterborough (2nd in the stats) Oxford (6th in the stats) Stevenage (22nd in the stats) Bolton (3rd in the stats) Derby (12th in the stats) Carlisle (19th in the stats) Fleetwood (15th in the stats) Reading (9th in the stats) Cheltenham (24th in the stats) www.fctables.com/england/league-1/ball-possession/If I was a Cheltenham fan I think I’d make it my New Year’s resolution to give up on football. Like us but without the points. Anti-Cheltenham fan
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Dec 20, 2023 0:09:25 GMT 1
The board should be better for this Davy C but if done it needs to be done properly.
Can I ask will all mods be given authority on the decision making on what should be moved or just specific moderators? Will members be able to give feedback on how it’s being implemented or will points raised simply have their posts deleted like has happened in the past when others have questioned how the site is moderated?
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Post by davycrockett on Dec 20, 2023 9:35:48 GMT 1
The board should be better for this Davy C but if done it needs to be done properly. Can I ask will all mods be given authority on the decision making on what should be moved or just specific moderators? Will members be able to give feedback on how it’s being implemented or will points raised simply have their posts deleted like has happened in the past when others have questioned how the site is moderated? Yes all Mods can move posts. All posters can ‘report’ posts, give their reason and it will be discussed and a decision made.
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Post by martinshrew on Dec 20, 2023 9:55:13 GMT 1
The board should be better for this Davy C but if done it needs to be done properly. Can I ask will all mods be given authority on the decision making on what should be moved or just specific moderators? Will members be able to give feedback on how it’s being implemented or will points raised simply have their posts deleted like has happened in the past when others have questioned how the site is moderated? it will be discussed and a decision made. This is the key bit! Good news if it's a group mod decision, rather than the "one sheriff in town" approach that it's been for a long time; the board will be a better place for it!
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Post by Pilch on Dec 20, 2023 11:02:39 GMT 1
it will be discussed and a decision made. This is the key bit! Good news if it's a group mod decision, rather than the "one sheriff in town" approach that it's been for a long time; the board will be a better place for it! They always have done since day 1
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Post by martinshrew on Dec 20, 2023 11:31:26 GMT 1
Considering I've been a mod, I know this not to be true in my experience.
As per the instructions, I'll politely disagree and move on.
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Post by tarporleyblue on Dec 20, 2023 12:07:30 GMT 1
Considering I've been a mod, I know this not to be true in my experience. As per the instructions, I'll politely disagree and move on. I've just moved 2 posts this morning (nothing untoward, just keeping them on topic). Having been a mod for a short time now, I can confirm that any posts or threads that are moved/locked that require further attention are reviewed and discussed as a group, no one mod has sway over the others. If indeed that was the case then I, for one would no longer be willing to undertake the role. I hope that reassures you and any other board member who has his/her doubts.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Dec 20, 2023 12:47:36 GMT 1
will probably be someone with the surname Darwin who claims that he is his great great grandson twice removed and is 10% english via one of those DNA tests You are a good addition to this board. I do genuinely mean that. Bit of humour and a realistic fan unlike Noto and how Doc Proctor is becoming. Yes, I thought that too. Decent supporter on another teams board, always welcome on B&A. Doc Proc is certainly not the person he used to be. Remember him very humble and coming in here 18 months ago when it all went pear shaped in the play offs and the Trophy final. Thought he came over very well back then. Not any more though..... As for Noto, he has always been a ****
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Post by davycrockett on Dec 20, 2023 12:51:01 GMT 1
OK if any post is moved by any Mod they must either move it here (off topics) or move it to the ‘dodgy posts room’. Before moving it report it so all mods can discuss their actions.
As previously said, anyone can repost any post for discussion.
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Post by Valerioch on Dec 20, 2023 13:02:14 GMT 1
You are a good addition to this board. I do genuinely mean that. Bit of humour and a realistic fan unlike Noto and how Doc Proctor is becoming. Yes, I thought that too. Decent supporter on another teams board, always welcome on B&A. Doc Proc is certainly not the person he used to be. Remember him very humble and coming in here 18 months ago when it all went pear shaped in the play offs and the Trophy final. Thought he came over very well back then. Not any more though..... As for Noto, he has always been a **** Could make quite an interesting and funny read this thread, seeing posts like this popping up with no relevance or context
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Post by davycrockett on Dec 20, 2023 13:08:43 GMT 1
To be honest any club who sells to foreign owners sells its soul. I will be extremely sceptical if this happens to us in the future. Totally agree with you on this. Our issue is we will be very attractive to people looking to asset strip due to land around the ground and no debt Or to beneficiaries who want to cash in. (As an example I’ve made a mischievous post not relating to Wrexham game, I could have moved ssshrews or Martin B’s but thought better not🤣)
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Post by belfastshrew on Dec 20, 2023 14:23:20 GMT 1
Could make quite an interesting and funny read this thread, seeing posts like this popping up with no relevance or context This is going to be the funniest thread going 🤣
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Dec 20, 2023 14:38:18 GMT 1
OK if any post is moved by any Mod they must either move it here (off topics) or move it to the ‘dodgy posts room’. Before moving it report it so all mods can discuss their actions. As previously said, anyone can repost any post for discussion. As long as it’s the end of posts mysteriously ‘disappearing’ then brilliant 👍
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Post by martinshrew on Dec 20, 2023 15:05:49 GMT 1
OK if any post is moved by any Mod they must either move it here (off topics) or move it to the ‘dodgy posts room’. Before moving it report it so all mods can discuss their actions. As previously said, anyone can repost any post for discussion. Exactly how it should be, really good to see this Davey. If it goes as above you could quite literally be turning B&A around as it's be nose diving for a long time. Onwards & upwards! 👍
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Post by davycrockett on Dec 20, 2023 15:15:12 GMT 1
OK if any post is moved by any Mod they must either move it here (off topics) or move it to the ‘dodgy posts room’. Before moving it report it so all mods can discuss their actions. As previously said, anyone can repost any post for discussion. Exactly how it should be, really good to see this Davey. If it goes as above you could quite literally be turning B&A around as it's be nose diving for a long time. Onwards & upwards! 👍 I know you haven’t helped 😉
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Post by davycrockett on Dec 20, 2023 16:03:42 GMT 1
Could make quite an interesting and funny read this thread, seeing posts like this popping up with no relevance or context This is going to be the funniest thread going 🤣 It hasn’t gone unnoticed who the main posters here are…..
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Post by jamo on Dec 20, 2023 21:06:38 GMT 1
I guess there are a number of ways of viewing this unilateral decision to ‘police’ the board to suit a particular agenda. Whilst I generally hope the initiative has some affect I do think that some threads actually benefit from following a more organic life of their own.
My reservations about this would be that it is utterly futile whilst the appointed moderators persistently fail to address the elephant in the room. Had they done so sometime ago then the forum would be all the better for it.
That said, should this have the result it is intended to reach then I would hope that the next initiative would be to prevent posts being doctored, deliberately moved or deleted altogether, without reason nor explanation by those with the power to do so.
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Post by Pilch on Dec 21, 2023 0:35:13 GMT 1
I guess there are a number of ways of viewing this unilateral decision to ‘police’ the board to suit a particular agenda. Whilst I generally hope the initiative has some affect I do think that some threads actually benefit from following a more organic life of their own. My reservations about this would be that it is utterly futile whilst the appointed moderators persistently fail to address the elephant in the room. Had they done so sometime ago then the forum would be all the better for it. That said, should this have the result it is intended to reach then I would hope that the next initiative would be to prevent posts being doctored, deliberately moved or deleted altogether, without reason nor explanation by those with the power to do so. Apr 14, 2017 9:38:55 , You messaged me to request a post be moved as you claimed it contained false allegations about you I think I moved it right away for you and yet here I am having to read false allegations from you presumably aimed at me the elephant personally this kangaroo court is quite distressing but hey as long as your having fun, thats all that matters
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on Dec 21, 2023 15:14:11 GMT 1
Could I ask that posters whose posts 'disappear' are given the courtesy of being told why their post is being deleted and which message board rule has been broken?
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Post by Pilch on Dec 21, 2023 15:57:49 GMT 1
Could I ask that posters whose posts 'disappear' are given the courtesy of being told why their post is being deleted and which message board rule has been broken? has that ever happened to you ? or are you just presuming it happens ? im more than happy to start following glyn guidlines here they are Should you break any of the rules above as deemed by a moderator, then you will be dealt with in the following way. 1st Offence – Posts changed and informed as to why it was not acceptable. 2nd Offence – Official Warning 3nd Offence – 1 Day ban issued. 4rd Offence – 3 day ban issued - No right of reply – Instant Ban. 5th Offence – 2 week ban issued - No right of reply – Instant Ban. 6th Offence – Life ban, and account deleted. IP Address locked out of B and A (if appropriate).
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on Dec 21, 2023 18:25:24 GMT 1
Could I ask that posters whose posts 'disappear' are given the courtesy of being told why their post is being deleted and which message board rule has been broken? has that ever happened to you ? or are you just presuming it happens ? im more than happy to start following glyn guidlines here they are Should you break any of the rules above as deemed by a moderator, then you will be dealt with in the following way. 1st Offence – Posts changed and informed as to why it was not acceptable. 2nd Offence – Official Warning 3nd Offence – 1 Day ban issued. 4rd Offence – 3 day ban issued - No right of reply – Instant Ban. 5th Offence – 2 week ban issued - No right of reply – Instant Ban. 6th Offence – Life ban, and account deleted. IP Address locked out of B and A (if appropriate). It has happened to me which is why I mentioned it. I saw my post on the board and next I looked, about 20 minutes later, it had gone. The second time I didn’t see it on the board, so it’s possible I forgot to press the create button. However I was suspicious because the post contained criticism. Feedo also mentioned posts being deleted.
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Post by jamo on Dec 21, 2023 19:42:03 GMT 1
It has happened to me which is why I mentioned it. I saw my post on the board and next I looked, about 20 minutes later, it had gone. The second time I didn’t see it on the board, so it’s possible I forgot to press the create button. However I was suspicious because the post contained criticism. Feedo also mentioned posts being deleted. It definitely happens. Regularly. I would agree that it’s fine if a moderator deems that any forum rules have been breached but at the least the poster concerned has the right to know and understand the reasoning behind the decision. It’s just courtesy. What is more invidious is when a post remains but its content has been changed/ altered. I would consider this to be more a priority for moderators than setting up a separate thread for threads that venture off topic, which generally do no reputational harm at all
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Post by Pilch on Dec 21, 2023 21:15:37 GMT 1
It has happened to me which is why I mentioned it. I saw my post on the board and next I looked, about 20 minutes later, it had gone. The second time I didn’t see it on the board, so it’s possible I forgot to press the create button. However I was suspicious because the post contained criticism. Feedo also mentioned posts being deleted. It definitely happens. Regularly. I would agree that it’s fine if a moderator deems that any forum rules have been breached but at the least the poster concerned has the right to know and understand the reasoning behind the decision. It’s just courtesy. What is more invidious is when a post remains but its content has been changed/ altered. I would consider this to be more a priority for moderators than setting up a separate thread for threads that venture off topic, which generally do no reputational harm at all you've literally had one post personally aimed at you since day 1 and as I said you shouted up for it to be moved, it was, it reappeared twice more and I moved it twice , I still have the pm I sent to the guy asking him to stop and he did lately many of the posts you make are a dig aimed my way , and you are one of a few who seem to enjoy doing so as I pointed out to Davey, we have 2 spam posts on this thread already, same people making the same point, the whole aim of this thread is to stop that, Davey clear states that in his first post you were the first person on this forum to label a fan as anti town and you got a lot of support for it from many of those who are now dead against it in recent seasons I wasnt allowed to put a case for ricketts without getting abuse I certainly wasnt allowed to speak out v cotterill without getting abuse and here we are again, ricketts mark 2 with the current set up and it goes back way further than that too many of those throwing abuse on here should go and experiment on other forums by throwing accusations and dogs abuse at those who run it and see how long they last , im sure some people think this forum is a public service I try to run this forum fair and square after any weekend where town get hammered and the scousers fail to beat united, I should really go into hiding as there has always been a massive revolt kick off after those occurrences align anyway, I usually make my point without getting personal, if we get tough and I start reporting the abuse aimed back, accounts will be vanishing , never mind posts, as far as im concerned this has always been the most passive football forum I know let see how it goes
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Post by blueandamber on Dec 21, 2023 22:49:09 GMT 1
I appreciate the effort and thought being put in to try and turn the board around.
I think it's worth remembering that these roles aren't paid and at times, moderating the board can take chunks of personal time and effort, especially if you're doing a full time job too.
I know the mods were aware of this before taking the roles on, but still.
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Post by martinshrew on Dec 21, 2023 23:35:11 GMT 1
Now that all mods are being consulted on dodgy posts it should work really well. The mods are a reasonable and varied bunch, so dodgy posts will now be decided on by a jury rather than a judge so to speak.
Good move and hopefully a return to the better days 👍 It's been a bit better already, good work all involved.
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Post by Pilch on Dec 22, 2023 0:39:47 GMT 1
Now that all mods are being consulted on dodgy posts it should work really well. The mods are a reasonable and varied bunch, so dodgy posts will now be decided on by a jury rather than a judge so to speak. Good move and hopefully a return to the better days 👍 It's been a bit better already, good work all involved. This last week almost 100% of thread locks , thread moves , anchors , were all done by the newest mod , and I personally thanked him for a decent bit of modding on all accounts , some of the posts he removed were mine The only modding I did , you and only you personally went bonkers with it , caused me no end of stress All I did was close a pathetic thread that needed closing , it was then reopened just in time for me to endure more abuse all this despite me messaging someone to explain why the thread was being closed , I mean thanks
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Post by zenfootball2 on Dec 22, 2023 10:13:19 GMT 1
Personally I think this is long overdue and I hope it works.
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