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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Jan 27, 2020 9:31:16 GMT 1
Yes, disappointing attitude from Klopp to say the least. Looking at the replays I would have thought this game would stand a chance of being one of the live games again but with it looking like a second / third string Liverpool side the TV companies may give it a swerve. Add in a few thousand home fans who may not now be bothered this could cost us a couple of 100k. are you suggesting the tv companies wont pick liverpool ? really ? Kids or not the BBC will be desperate to show the follow up, and will be rooting for us again.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2020 9:49:45 GMT 1
are you suggesting the tv companies wont pick liverpool ? really ? Kids or not the BBC will be desperate to show the follow up, and will be rooting for us again. I hope so. I don't know if replays attract the same TV fees but it was £150k for yesterday.
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Jan 27, 2020 10:14:23 GMT 1
Liverpool kids, the ones we will play came bottom of the checkatrade group with 1 point and shipped five goals to Accrington.
Were going to anfield to win guy!
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Post by northwestman on Jan 27, 2020 10:22:28 GMT 1
Liverpool team that played against Villa in the Carabao Cup, losing 5-0.
Kelleher Gallacher Boyes Van Den Berg Hoever Kane Chirivella Christie-Davies Hill Longstaff Elliott
Bring it on!
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jan 27, 2020 10:24:52 GMT 1
Liverpool kids, the ones we will play came bottom of the checkatrade group with 1 point and shipped five goals to Accrington. Were going to anfield to win guy! And are they managed by the chap Klopp said would be in change of the replay? The same chap who managed them at Villa in the League Cup is it? This really is sommat now this, waiting to see how this plays out...how Liverpool are going to manage this. I mean we all know what Klopp said yesterday but that could of been in the heat of the moment having lost a two nil lead and ending up with a replay in the winter pause. Once he has had a think they might look to handle it differently. But if is the Checkatrade lads or the lads who played at Villa (might be the same bunch of lads, I don't know) then...blimey...
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jan 27, 2020 10:25:25 GMT 1
Liverpool team that played against Villa in the Carabao Cup, losing 5-0. Kelleher Gallacher Boyes Van Den Berg Hoever Kane Chirivella Christie-Davies Hill Longstaff Elliott Bring it on! And is that the lads they played in the Checkatrade?
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Jan 27, 2020 10:33:05 GMT 1
Liverpool team that played against Villa in the Carabao Cup, losing 5-0. Kelleher Gallacher Boyes Van Den Berg Hoever Kane Chirivella Christie-Davies Hill Longstaff Elliott Bring it on! I’d guess the kids who played yesterday (Williams, Larouci, Jones) would also be in the replay team, they were flown out to Qatar as injury cover so didn’t play vs Villa. Not that it should make a difference.
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Post by northwestman on Jan 27, 2020 10:34:58 GMT 1
Liverpool team that played against Villa in the Carabao Cup, losing 5-0. Kelleher Gallacher Boyes Van Den Berg Hoever Kane Chirivella Christie-Davies Hill Longstaff Elliott Bring it on! And is that the lads they played in the Checkatrade? only 3 of that team played against Accrington in the Checkatrade, when they lost 5-2.
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Post by gainsparkshrew on Jan 27, 2020 10:45:04 GMT 1
Yeah, yeah seen it before.Face the facts, the stats as stated don't lie, clever graphics are just fun there are lies, damn lies and your links here's a fact That the best you've got ? ...one slightly deranged bloke on Talk Sport ( part of Sky TV ) spouting off about not being part of England ?? ...........and he speaks for the other half a million that live in that city does he ? I'm pretty sure both of my grandfathers, who died in the 1950s due to the effects of mustard gas in WW1, or my Dad who fought in WW2, or the thousands of Liverpudlians who where killed during the Liverpool Blitz all considered themselves English. In reality Pilch the VAR rubbish is a pathetic attempt by Manc fans, of both colours, to establish in their tiny little minds just why Liverpool are running away with the PL, and are European and WORLD champions. They are so filled with bile and hatred that they have concotted the VAR story, trouble is the truth hurts. PL football is cyclic, a team rises to the top and then falls back after a few years to rebuild, before rising again. It's Liverpools turn again, let them enjoy it after all it has nothing really to do with us in Shrewsbury
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Post by cmonsalop on Jan 27, 2020 10:55:44 GMT 1
A Liverpool supporting colleague of mine is saying 'Brilliant job by your boys yesterday. You deserve a replay!'
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Post by blamber on Jan 27, 2020 11:04:30 GMT 1
16 points ahead in the Prem, a squad of god knows how many, enter the Cup at the third round and they whinge about how inconvenient it is to play another game in their busy schedule. Yet they will be the first to crow about all the silverware at the end of the season - the FA Cup included.
Klopp has gone down in my estimation as I thought that he understood the English league and how hard it is. They are paid vast sums of money and they whinge like petulant children when things don't go their way. It's why I loathe the Premier league -full of players I've barely heard of behaving like prima donnas. That Origi bloke is paid to sit on the bench - and when he does play he's utterly useless. Same goes for quite a few others.
I don't care if we play the U23s at Anfield, perhaps if we get the motivation of a good draw, there's a better chance of springing another surprise.
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Post by northwestman on Jan 27, 2020 11:09:24 GMT 1
16 points ahead in the Prem, a squad of god knows how many, enter the Cup at the third round and they whinge about how inconvenient it is to play another game in their busy schedule. Yet they will be the first to crow about all the silverware at the end of the season - the FA Cup included. Klopp has gone down in my estimation as I thought that he understood the English league and how hard it is. They are paid vast sums of money and they whinge like petulant children when things don't go their way. It's why I loathe the Premier league -full of players I've barely heard of behaving like prima donnas. That Origi bloke is paid to sit on the bench - and when he does play he's utterly useless. Same goes for quite a few others. I don't care if we play the U23s at Anfield, perhaps if we get the motivation of a good draw, there's a better chance of springing another surprise. And no Oxlade Chamberlain, Firmino or Salah to bring off the bench.
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Post by cmonsalop on Jan 27, 2020 12:01:42 GMT 1
OTIB is worth a read this morning
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Post by Pilch on Jan 27, 2020 12:16:55 GMT 1
there are lies, damn lies and your links here's a fact That the best you've got ? ...one slightly deranged bloke on Talk Sport ( part of Sky TV ) spouting off about not being part of England ?? ...........and he speaks for the other half a million that live in that city does he ? I'm pretty sure both of my grandfathers, who died in the 1950s due to the effects of mustard gas in WW1, or my Dad who fought in WW2, or the thousands of Liverpudlians who where killed during the Liverpool Blitz all considered themselves English. In reality Pilch the VAR rubbish is a pathetic attempt by Manc fans, of both colours, to establish in their tiny little minds just why Liverpool are running away with the PL, and are European and WORLD champions. They are so filled with bile and hatred that they have concotted the VAR story, trouble is the truth hurts. PL football is cyclic, a team rises to the top and then falls back after a few years to rebuild, before rising again. It's Liverpools turn again, let them enjoy it after all it has nothing really to do with us in Shrewsbury you need to understand how banter works I say something silly about Liverpool , you reply with something silly back about town or liverpool I dont want your life story and couldn't care less what united are doing oh and dont take anything to heart
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Post by Scarecrow on Jan 27, 2020 12:20:49 GMT 1
If Klopp plays the kids and disrespects the competition we deserve to go out and win the game decisively. I'd have less of a problem with a team of youngsters if he was managing the team but it shows just how little respect he has for football in this country and what the lower leagues mean to people to not bother to show up. I'm utterly disgusted.
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Post by jacksdad on Jan 27, 2020 12:38:26 GMT 1
I thought the winter break was for the overpaid prima donna players, I hadn't realised it included petulant managers as well...
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Post by gainsparkshrew on Jan 27, 2020 13:28:37 GMT 1
That the best you've got ? ...one slightly deranged bloke on Talk Sport ( part of Sky TV ) spouting off about not being part of England ?? ...........and he speaks for the other half a million that live in that city does he ? I'm pretty sure both of my grandfathers, who died in the 1950s due to the effects of mustard gas in WW1, or my Dad who fought in WW2, or the thousands of Liverpudlians who where killed during the Liverpool Blitz all considered themselves English. In reality Pilch the VAR rubbish is a pathetic attempt by Manc fans, of both colours, to establish in their tiny little minds just why Liverpool are running away with the PL, and are European and WORLD champions. They are so filled with bile and hatred that they have concotted the VAR story, trouble is the truth hurts. PL football is cyclic, a team rises to the top and then falls back after a few years to rebuild, before rising again. It's Liverpools turn again, let them enjoy it after all it has nothing really to do with us in Shrewsbury you need to understand how banter works I say something silly about Liverpool , you reply with something silly back about town or liverpool I dont want your life story and couldn't care less what united are doing oh and dont take anything to heart Don't worry I understand perfectly well how banter woks, BTW I wouldn't make a derogatory comment about Town as they are my team, not Liverpool. My "life story" as you put it, is to do with defending my parents, grandparents and many generations before that,who all came from Liverpool and,having done a lot of ancestrial work, i know were all hard working and creative people who contributed to the growth of that fine city, OK lets call a truce and concentrate on our fantastic performance yesterday and the positives for our team and our town
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jan 27, 2020 14:07:12 GMT 1
Not as if Klopp is pulling this out of nowhere, he's clearly unhappy with the structure of the season here in England and he's made this clear from the off. You get the odd 'Englische woche' here in Germany but it's not too often you have midweek games. And here in Germany (and elsewhere) they also get a break. It all does sound rather daft that a winter break has been allocated but then they then have a fixture fall into that. Doesn't sound the best of planning from the Premier League, the FA and any club who happens to have scheduled things for a break (when there was always a chance of a replay). Seems a bit of a mess and I think this will certainly play a part in the build up as Klopp is clearly looking to use this to make a point. So it'll be interesting to see how this pans out now because its great that we are all talking about our first trip to Anfield and a big pay day but there is also the small matter of a place in the last 16 being available...and the way Klopp is speaking you do wonder who we'll be going up against. Not saying in any way, shape or form that we will be favorites, I don't think it matters who they put out at home they will be best placed to go through and favorites to win. But if the seniors are on the winter break then our chances increase big time. So I guess it comes down to whether Klopp is willing to sacrifice his teams chances of winning the FA cup to make a point about fixture congestion in the English game. As I think this is what it now boils down to. And of course whether Liverpool will be OK for him to do so (I don't think he will get much stick from the fans as we know what is important for them this season). Personally now I would be more than happy if we came up against a side that's comparable to what we would meet in the Johnson's Paint Trophy. That would give us a half decent chance of making it to the last 16... no manager ever cried like this before no manager ever had the luxury of the position they have in the premiership table before how to win the league ? disrespect everyone else disrespect every other competition cry about everything else demand rule changes in everything else its a shame Klopp wasn't manager from 75 to 90, they wouldn't have won half as much as they did he has less bottle than Dalglish did and that's saying something I can kinda see what you are getting at with one or two points made (I mean considering what they have won of late not sure about the 'disrespecting every other competition' and not too sure what rules they wish to see changed) but I'm just saying that this shouldn't be seen in isolation. Klopp has clearly got a bee in his bonnet about this and has done for a while, he's looking to milk it for all he can. Be interesting to see how the other top flight clubs deal with this. More so Spurs who are also set for a replay and are still in the Champions League.
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Post by TheFoz on Jan 27, 2020 14:21:31 GMT 1
7 of those players from last night, played (and won) a champions league final a few months ago.
With Klopp’s comments, I really fancy us at Anfield (something I thought I’d never say). I don’t mind if he doesn’t play the first tea, it’s his squad, he can decide who he wants to play. However, for him to not turn up himself would be so disrespectful to us.
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Post by gtismygod on Jan 27, 2020 14:21:50 GMT 1
Incredible that Klopp can't even be arsed to turn up. Guessing he's got something better to do?
What an example that sets for the youngsters.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2020 14:31:02 GMT 1
Most of the Liverpool fans I've seen stuff from on social media have been very positive/complimentary about us and some have suggested that Klopp has got it wrong regarding the reply. My view is if he wants to play a young side then that is his choice and plenty of other clubs have done that over the years, however for him not to attend is a disgrace
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Post by TheFoz on Jan 27, 2020 14:38:26 GMT 1
Not sure what they’re saying now, but they have to be some of the worst singers I’ve ever seen down our place. Like 1500 librarians. If the old saying about the fans being the twelfth man Liverpool should be in the conference. Completely agree. No excuses for not singing because “the game didn’t matter” or it’s hard to get motivated. As much as it pains me to say it, Man Utd away fans were some of the loudest we have had to the ground. The quietness from the Liverpool fans was embarrassing.
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Post by Pilch on Jan 27, 2020 14:53:47 GMT 1
Not sure what they’re saying now, but they have to be some of the worst singers I’ve ever seen down our place. Like 1500 librarians. If the old saying about the fans being the twelfth man Liverpool should be in the conference. Completely agree. No excuses for not singing because “the game didn’t matter” or it’s hard to get motivated. As much as it pains me to say it, Man Utd away fans were some of the loudest we have had to the ground. The quietness from the Liverpool fans was embarrassing. they couldn't even sing you'll never walk alone
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Post by ssshrew on Jan 27, 2020 14:55:54 GMT 1
Thank goodness.
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Post by ssshrew on Jan 27, 2020 15:01:04 GMT 1
Every other Premier/old first division club we have played have been courteous as have their fans.
Klopp and his ilk are not. As someone has said - what an example he is setting his youngsters and the rest of the footballing world by not being there himself. They will feel really encouraged I’m sure. He really is a miserable, arrogant something.
If Liverpool have any sense they’ll do what Arsenal did when we went there and charge cheap tickets for all their fans who can’t afford and/or can’t get inflated season tickets.
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Post by davycrockett on Jan 27, 2020 15:06:30 GMT 1
Incredible that Klopp can't even be arsed to turn up. Guessing he's got something better to do? What an example that sets for the youngsters. Perhaps he’s already booked his holiday and can’t let his wife down 😂 He knew before the game what a draw meant so it’s completely his fault Liverpool didn’t win underestimating STFC.... full stop.... He must have had a conversation before the game with the owners otherwise he wouldn’t have been able to make the statement he did!
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Post by Pilch on Jan 27, 2020 15:13:07 GMT 1
Incredible that Klopp can't even be arsed to turn up. Guessing he's got something better to do? What an example that sets for the youngsters. Perhaps he’s already booked his holiday and can’t let his wife down 😂 He knew before the game what a draw meant so it’s completely his fault Liverpool didn’t win underestimating STFC.... full stop.... He must have had a conversation before the game with the owners otherwise he wouldn’t have been able to make the statement he did! I think he's having his hair dry cleaned and his teeth resprayed that week
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Post by floreatsalopia1 on Jan 27, 2020 15:34:00 GMT 1
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Jan 27, 2020 15:34:35 GMT 1
Yes, disappointing attitude from Klopp to say the least. Looking at the replays I would have thought this game would stand a chance of being one of the live games again but with it looking like a second / third string Liverpool side the TV companies may give it a swerve. Add in a few thousand home fans who may not now be bothered this could cost us a couple of 100k. are you suggesting the tv companies wont pick liverpool ? really ? Well the TV companies dont have their 1st choice regular team for the replays as they got through without needing a second game (fairly easily against a side just a few places below us) 😊
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on Jan 27, 2020 16:21:31 GMT 1
No wonder they're tired, according to soccerbase, they're down to the following : - 8 keepers, 16 defenders, 17 midfielders, 8 forwards, with only 10 players loaned out. You'll have to excuse me, Jurgen, but you sound like a daft t**t looking for excuses.. This is a bugbear of mine and I think squad sizes should be limited, 30 players are more than adequate for the amount of football played. The big clubs hoover up as many talented boys as they can in the hope that 1 to 2 make the grade, the rest are just spat out as surplus to requirements and many are lost to the game. Most of those in the Liverpool (and other Premiership squads) will get nowhere near the first team and will find themselves in their late teens or early 20s looking for employment lower down the pyramid not having played adult football and finding themselves unable to cope with it. Taking Liverpool as an example, their team for games that are important to them is the same 9 with a choice over who partners Van Djyk and one of the midfield positions. If one of the first choices becomes long term unavailable for any reason they are more likely to buy a replacement than promote from within. It’s a wasteful system that needs to change.
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