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Post by Pilch on Jan 16, 2020 14:31:10 GMT 1
all this expense just to help someone who hasn't been all season but wants to come just to see the opposition and we could make a loss even if they sell out seriously mate, stop it The only way you could make a loss (About 500 quid) is if all the temporary seats we sold to under 12’s (which wouldn’t be allowed) ( im going to take that shovel off you in a minute, and smack you on the back of the head with it ;-)
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Post by accordingtome on Jan 16, 2020 14:31:40 GMT 1
deadly serious as was every club that built a bowl stadium from the off. I expect they did their sums too Einstein if we use the figures someone has mentioned £1.2M each corner ( 4.8M) 625 seats total if we sold every single extra seat at an average of £15 thats just 512 games to cover the initial cost im not einstein
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Post by Dale on Jan 16, 2020 14:53:00 GMT 1
Is t our ground basically the same as Bournemouth? They have a very wealthy owner and yet still have not filled their corners in so not much hope for us !! Our ground is almost identical to Bournemouth... although I’m sure they are due to start work on a new stadium sometime in the future which would be double the capacity of what Dean Court can currently hold, however if they keep up their current form I don’t think they would need it!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2020 17:53:06 GMT 1
Should have been done permanently years ago. Would have paid for itself by now with games against United/Chelsea / West Ham/Stoke/Wolves twice/ Bury play offs/ Dagenham etc. Offices or bar/ Greggs etc underneath to pay rent Really?? We do not hit 65% capacity for 95% of games held... so waste of money A few seasons back Brian said that one of his objectives was to regularly see 6000 home supporters at each game. That's still to happen. Let's try and fill what we've already got first.
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Post by accordingtome on Jan 16, 2020 18:58:10 GMT 1
The Franchise are (delightfully) losing money hand over first, so perhaps aren't the best example. Didn’t work out too well for Darlington either from memory. In addition to Dongs losing money Doncaster barely half fill their stadium and are still in the same division as they were when it opened. Using Darlington as a comparison is misleading. They built a stadium virtually twice the capacity that the meadow would achieve, for a club of similar size and stature to us, foolhardy to the extreme which was proven. Had we filled in the corners at initial construction stage the cost would surely have been far less than filling in afterwards, with inflation, certainly a darn sight dearer now. We should have modelled it on Doncasters stadium , after all it was Roland who pretty much promised championship football within ten years if I recall, surely speculate to accumulate. Had we achieved promotion under Hurst the potential was there for sell outs more often than not, some big teams who could probably have sold out the complete stadium had the away allocation have allowed,. Still, we'll go on being little Shrewsbury with zero ambition as long as Roland's in charge
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Post by tvor on Jan 16, 2020 19:21:51 GMT 1
Is t our ground basically the same as Bournemouth? They have a very wealthy owner and yet still have not filled their corners in so not much hope for us !! Our ground is almost identical to Bournemouth... although I’m sure they are due to start work on a new stadium sometime in the future which would be double the capacity of what Dean Court can currently hold, however if they keep up their current form I don’t think they would need it! The stands are a lot closer to the pitch at Bournemouth resulting in less space in the corners, but yes they have plans for a new stadium.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2020 20:00:56 GMT 1
Didn’t work out too well for Darlington either from memory. In addition to Dongs losing money Doncaster barely half fill their stadium and are still in the same division as they were when it opened. Using Darlington as a comparison is misleading. They built a stadium virtually twice the capacity that the meadow would achieve, for a club of similar size and stature to us, foolhardy to the extreme which was proven. Had we filled in the corners at initial construction stage the cost would surely have been far less than filling in afterwards, with inflation, certainly a darn sight dearer now. We should have modelled it on Doncasters stadium , after all it was Roland who pretty much promised championship football within ten years if I recall, surely speculate to accumulate. Had we achieved promotion under Hurst the potential was there for sell outs more often than not, some big teams who could probably have sold out the complete stadium had the away allocation have allowed,. Still, we'll go on being little Shrewsbury with zero ambition as long as Roland's in charge But if it hadn't been for Roland then we wouldn't have a new stadium at all. Just moving to a new stadium, now that showed some ambition don't you think?
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Post by Pilch on Jan 16, 2020 20:32:17 GMT 1
Didn’t work out too well for Darlington either from memory. In addition to Dongs losing money Doncaster barely half fill their stadium and are still in the same division as they were when it opened. Using Darlington as a comparison is misleading. They built a stadium virtually twice the capacity that the meadow would achieve, for a club of similar size and stature to us, foolhardy to the extreme which was proven. Had we filled in the corners at initial construction stage the cost would surely have been far less than filling in afterwards, with inflation, certainly a darn sight dearer now. We should have modelled it on Doncasters stadium , after all it was Roland who pretty much promised championship football within ten years if I recall, surely speculate to accumulate. Had we achieved promotion under Hurst the potential was there for sell outs more often than not, some big teams who could probably have sold out the complete stadium had the away allocation have allowed,. Still, we'll go on being little Shrewsbury with zero ambition as long as Roland's in charge try stoke then for many seasons it was debated whether to expand the stadium corners they were averaging 27500 ,almost a sell out every game eventually they added 3000 seats averaging only half of them full in the first season the next season they averaged 25000 this season they average 22000 wiki In the middle of 2009, surveyors were asked to investigate the feasibility of filling in one and possibly two of the stadium's open corners.[16] Filling in a corner of the ground would cost approximately £3 million, increasing capacity by around 3,000 seats and taking the total capacity to over 30,000. In November 2009, chairman Peter Coates said that a decision on expansion would be made at the end of the season and was dependent on the club's Premier League survival. In February 2010, the club were still considering whether to expand the 27,500 capacity by filling in the scoreboard corner between the South and East stands. Chief Executive Tony Scholes cautioned that expansion might jeopardise the atmosphere at the stadium, one of the factors credited with Stoke City's resurgence in the top tier of English football. "The big risk when anyone expands their stadium is that they could lose that 'sell-out' factor, which would affect the atmosphere. I would loathe to give that up."[17] At the end of the 2009–10 season, Peter Coates indicated that the club would wait at least another 12 months before deciding whether to spend up to £6 million on expanding the stadium, saying: "You don't do these things lightly. It is on the drawing board and is something we will consider. But we want to feel confident we can justify it in terms of getting the increased capacity, filling it and it making economic sense."[18] Plans to increase the stadium's capacity to over 30,000 were unveiled in November 2012.[19] By June 2014 work had not started, and the club CEO, Tony Scholes, stated that the club were in no rush to expand the stadium.[20] In April 2016 plans were again revealed for stadium expansion, with a stated completion to be in time for the beginning of the 2017–18 season, which was met.[4] Work began on expanding the stadium in February 2017.[21]
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Post by cheggersdrinkspop on Jan 16, 2020 21:13:46 GMT 1
Didn’t work out too well for Darlington either from memory. In addition to Dongs losing money Doncaster barely half fill their stadium and are still in the same division as they were when it opened. Using Darlington as a comparison is misleading. They built a stadium virtually twice the capacity that the meadow would achieve, for a club of similar size and stature to us, foolhardy to the extreme which was proven. Had we filled in the corners at initial construction stage the cost would surely have been far less than filling in afterwards, with inflation, certainly a darn sight dearer now. We should have modelled it on Doncasters stadium , after all it was Roland who pretty much promised championship football within ten years if I recall, surely speculate to accumulate. Had we achieved promotion under Hurst the potential was there for sell outs more often than not, some big teams who could probably have sold out the complete stadium had the away allocation have allowed,. Still, we'll go on being little Shrewsbury with zero ambition as long as Roland's in charge Got to be a wind up surely; 1. The ground is easily sufficient for where we are 2. Filled in corners would see us playing in a stadium less than half full 3. Who would sell the majority of the available seats to the opposition supporters 4. We didn't get promoted with PH so irrelevant point 5. If it wasn't for a certain Mr Wycherly we would still be calling games off due to flooding, peeing in an open air stone trough, playing on a crap pitch, unable to attract decent players, and in debt.
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Post by accordingtome on Jan 16, 2020 22:27:46 GMT 1
So everyone's happy with the identikit Lego meadow then?. With the wind howling through the corners .So if and when Stoke get promoted back to the prem it'll have been a waste if money when they sell out each week? .Part of the reason the Meadows half empty is because its a soul_less box with a crap infrastructure around it .and the difficulty trying to get tickets if you're not a S/T holder; don't start me on that.Could be managed so much better.I reckon vast majority of fans agree the matchday experience is dire
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Jan 16, 2020 22:49:06 GMT 1
Didn’t work out too well for Darlington either from memory. In addition to Dongs losing money Doncaster barely half fill their stadium and are still in the same division as they were when it opened. Using Darlington as a comparison is misleading. They built a stadium virtually twice the capacity that the meadow would achieve, for a club of similar size and stature to us, foolhardy to the extreme which was proven. Had we filled in the corners at initial construction stage the cost would surely have been far less than filling in afterwards, with inflation, certainly a darn sight dearer now. We should have modelled it on Doncasters stadium , after all it was Roland who pretty much promised championship football within ten years if I recall, surely speculate to accumulate. Had we achieved promotion under Hurst the potential was there for sell outs more often than not, some big teams who could probably have sold out the complete stadium had the away allocation have allowed,. Still, we'll go on being little Shrewsbury with zero ambition as long as Roland's in charge "Sell outs more often than not". Deluded. Not many teams we would sell out to in the Championship, 2 or 3 at most.
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Post by Pilch on Jan 16, 2020 23:23:22 GMT 1
So everyone's happy with the identikit Lego meadow then?. With the wind howling through the corners .So if and when Stoke get promoted back to the prem it'll have been a waste if money when they sell out each week? .Part of the reason the Meadows half empty is because its a soul_less box with a cr@p infrastructure around it .and the difficulty trying to get tickets if you're not a S/T holder; don't start me on that.Could be managed so much better.I reckon vast majority of fans agree the matchday experience is dire why wasn't you debating this last week, or last month , or last year ? probably because instead during your brief visits on here you were informing us how we were heading for relegation, how ricketts needs to go and how dire the football is and at no point was filling the corners even in the back of anyones mind have you actually watched us? We're feckkin s**te. Perhaps you need to get a grip unless of course your happy to watch garbage plenty more like that now out of the blue you are back inventing howling wind and wanting us to get the builders in and build you a seat for the cup game ;-)
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Post by accordingtome on Jan 17, 2020 7:36:25 GMT 1
So everyone's happy with the identikit Lego meadow then?. With the wind howling through the corners .So if and when Stoke get promoted back to the prem it'll have been a waste if money when they sell out each week? .Part of the reason the Meadows half empty is because its a soul_less box with a cr@p infrastructure around it .and the difficulty trying to get tickets if you're not a S/T holder; don't start me on that.Could be managed so much better.I reckon vast majority of fans agree the matchday experience is dire why wasn't you debating this last week, or last month , or last year ? probably because instead during your brief visits on here you were informing us how we were heading for relegation, how ricketts needs to go and how dire the football is and at no point was filling the corners even in the back of anyones mind have you actually watched us? We're feckkin s**te. Perhaps you need to get a grip unless of course your happy to watch garbage plenty more like that now out of the blue you are back inventing howling wind and wanting us to get the builders in and build you a seat for the cup game ;-) been to more Town games home and away than you I'll guarantee so no, not after my cup seat.Already got that actually.Just that I've always believed we missed a trick not filling in the corners at initial construction stage. As always when we get a big game with more than sell out potential the question crops up" are we gonna fill in the corners;temporary stands etc?. Wasn't me who brought the subject up this or any other time.It's obvious that you Pilch are happy to sit in silence in your sterile little world trying not to hear the banter from block 19 . No doubt filling in the corners might add to the acoustic value and spoil your enjoyment of the library whilst you're gathering stats to prove your theories that your view on every post on b/a is the right view .God how sad your life must be
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Post by davycrockett on Jan 17, 2020 8:55:43 GMT 1
Really?? We do not hit 65% capacity for 95% of games held... so waste of money A few seasons back Brian said that one of his objectives was to regularly see 6000 home supporters at each game. That's still to happen. Let's try and fill what we've already got first. Average gate last season 5995 with 13 games over 6000 and 7 so far this season so not far off 👍
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Jan 17, 2020 9:58:44 GMT 1
A few seasons back Brian said that one of his objectives was to regularly see 6000 home supporters at each game. That's still to happen. Let's try and fill what we've already got first. Average gate last season 5995 with 13 games over 6000 and 7 so far this season so not far off 👍 So we still need to add another 1/3rd onto our fanbase before it becomes an issue really then. Thats would be a BIG increase. Add to the fact that many folks feel that attendances will start to fall with the standard of entertainment currently on offer unless we add success as well which may well not happen at leaat in the short term. Much rather see the investment in the team than (sort of) waste it on the ground.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2020 9:59:44 GMT 1
A few seasons back Brian said that one of his objectives was to regularly see 6000 home supporters at each game. That's still to happen. Let's try and fill what we've already got first. Average gate last season 5995 with 13 games over 6000 and 7 so far this season so not far off 👍 So you agree with what I say?
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Post by davycrockett on Jan 17, 2020 10:10:47 GMT 1
Average gate last season 5995 with 13 games over 6000 and 7 so far this season so not far off 👍 So you agree with what I say? Correct..... my post was pointing out to Gwynedblue (in a friendly way ) that we had reached Brian’s target of regularly attracting gates of over 6000 with an average last year of 5995...... Still some way to go, before we need a bigger ground, would need a lot of hard work and perhaps an extended run in the Championship to get it over 7K let alone sell out regularly...... First priority would be increasing away capacity with options to flex home / away seating dependant who we were playing.....
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2020 17:20:11 GMT 1
I may well be wrong but I thought Brian was talking about a regular 6000 in the home ends.
5,717 home fans at the most recent league game (vs Lincoln) so still some way to go. Perhaps the club could consider more one off incentives to increase numbers?
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Post by saloplad on Jan 17, 2020 17:32:30 GMT 1
I don't recall the atmosphere being diluted against Chelsea. Everyone who " deserves" a ticket can get one. Why resent others having the opportunity? They might have just moved to the area (that's how I started), recovered from illness, come to one game and become regular supporters. But no, pull up the drawbridge, they're not one of us so we don't want them. And nothing would be more "tinpot" than taking only the " deserving" fans to a replay. We might not fill the away allocation at Anfield if we did that, certainly wouldn't at Old Trafford. I wasn't at the Chelsea game so can't comment, although common sense suggests it probably was. I don't resent anybody attending the game so long as it doesn't affect regular supporters' enjoyment. Filling the corners in with Shropshire-based Liverpool fans would certainly affect the atmosphere. As for your final point, I'd argue that it's more tinpot taking 8,000 day-trippers up to Anfield than a couple of thousand regulars. "I wasn't at the Chelsea game so can't comment" - well don't then...
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Post by Pilch on Jan 17, 2020 17:35:44 GMT 1
why wasn't you debating this last week, or last month , or last year ? probably because instead during your brief visits on here you were informing us how we were heading for relegation, how ricketts needs to go and how dire the football is and at no point was filling the corners even in the back of anyones mind plenty more like that now out of the blue you are back inventing howling wind and wanting us to get the builders in and build you a seat for the cup game ;-) been to more Town games home and away than you I'll guarantee so no, not after my cup seat.Already got that actually.Just that I've always believed we missed a trick not filling in the corners at initial construction stage. As always when we get a big game with more than sell out potential the question crops up" are we gonna fill in the corners;temporary stands etc?. Wasn't me who brought the subject up this or any other time.It's obvious that you Pilch are happy to sit in silence in your sterile little world trying not to hear the banter from block 19 . No doubt filling in the corners might add to the acoustic value and spoil your enjoyment of the library whilst you're gathering stats to prove your theories that your view on every post on b/a is the right view .God how sad your life must be so basically what you are saying is youve been to more games than me and then you started singing" is this a library to me" I sit in block 1 at the moment quite a few kids in there that sing during the game they only sing positive songs there is also a kid of about 6 years old who sings on his own he alone is more entertaining than the whole of block 19
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2020 17:39:12 GMT 1
why wasn't you debating this last week, or last month , or last year ? probably because instead during your brief visits on here you were informing us how we were heading for relegation, how ricketts needs to go and how dire the football is and at no point was filling the corners even in the back of anyones mind plenty more like that now out of the blue you are back inventing howling wind and wanting us to get the builders in and build you a seat for the cup game ;-) been to more Town games home and away than you I'll guarantee so no, not after my cup seat.Already got that actually.Just that I've always believed we missed a trick not filling in the corners at initial construction stage. As always when we get a big game with more than sell out potential the question crops up" are we gonna fill in the corners;temporary stands etc?. Wasn't me who brought the subject up this or any other time.It's obvious that you Pilch are happy to sit in silence in your sterile little world trying not to hear the banter from block 19 . No doubt filling in the corners might add to the acoustic value and spoil your enjoyment of the library whilst you're gathering stats to prove your theories that your view on every post on b/a is the right view .God how sad your life must be Thats quite a bold statement to come out with, what evidence is this based upon?? not sure of your age, but how many games have you been to? do you consider the conference season to be actually quite enjoyable for away games??
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2020 18:27:52 GMT 1
Really?? We do not hit 65% capacity for 95% of games held... so waste of money A few seasons back Brian said that one of his objectives was to regularly see 6000 home supporters at each game. That's still to happen. Let's try and fill what we've already got first. 5,717 home fans at the most recent league game (vs Lincoln) so still some way to go. Perhaps the club could consider more one off incentives to increase numbers? In the meantime our average this season has been boosted by some decent away followings.
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Post by leonidrogozov on Jan 17, 2020 18:31:46 GMT 1
So everyone's happy with the identikit Lego meadow then?. With the wind howling through the corners .So if and when Stoke get promoted back to the prem it'll have been a waste if money when they sell out each week? .Part of the reason the Meadows half empty is because its a soul_less box with a cr@p infrastructure around it .and the difficulty trying to get tickets if you're not a S/T holder; don't start me on that.Could be managed so much better.I reckon vast majority of fans agree the matchday experience is dire The old Meadow was special being so close to the town centre and a great setting but looking at my own match day these days I can't say it is that different. I used to drink in the Nags, packed with fans, and I now drink in the Prince of Wales, packed with fans (and better beer!). Miss the walk down the Cop but being ferried to the ground on a very short coach journey certainly ain't too shabby. I stood at the old place, I stand at the new place. I sang there, I sing here (I miss some of the old songs but the atmosphere is generally better now than at a lot of old games over the years). One plus is I can get a beer at half time here. I miss the old place f course but, personally, can't see how it is " dire" now. That just smacks of typical modern syndrome of people having to see everything in absolutes - it's either absolutely s**te or absolutely great.
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Post by gtismygod on Jan 17, 2020 19:45:45 GMT 1
I wasn't at the Chelsea game so can't comment, although common sense suggests it probably was. I don't resent anybody attending the game so long as it doesn't affect regular supporters' enjoyment. Filling the corners in with Shropshire-based Liverpool fans would certainly affect the atmosphere. As for your final point, I'd argue that it's more tinpot taking 8,000 day-trippers up to Anfield than a couple of thousand regulars. "I wasn't at the Chelsea game so can't comment" - well don't then... Did you log in just for that? What a weird guy.
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Post by gtismygod on Jan 17, 2020 19:50:55 GMT 1
So everyone's happy with the identikit Lego meadow then?. With the wind howling through the corners .So if and when Stoke get promoted back to the prem it'll have been a waste if money when they sell out each week? .Part of the reason the Meadows half empty is because its a soul_less box with a cr@p infrastructure around it .and the difficulty trying to get tickets if you're not a S/T holder; don't start me on that.Could be managed so much better.I reckon vast majority of fans agree the matchday experience is dire I want a good atmosphere as much as anyone, but you're talking nonsense. 'Part of the reason the Meadows half empty is because its a soul_less box' - so what were our attendances like at Gay Meadow then? That was full of character. Having more empty seats every week won't improve the atmosphere, it will make it worse and cost the club money. Agree about poor match day experience though, it could be improved.
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Post by cmonsalop on Jan 17, 2020 19:55:39 GMT 1
So everyone's happy with the identikit Lego meadow then?. With the wind howling through the corners .So if and when Stoke get promoted back to the prem it'll have been a waste if money when they sell out each week? .Part of the reason the Meadows half empty is because its a soul_less box with a cr@p infrastructure around it .and the difficulty trying to get tickets if you're not a S/T holder; don't start me on that.Could be managed so much better.I reckon vast majority of fans agree the matchday experience is dire What I don't get is why, if it's such a soulless place with such a dire matchday experience our gates have doubled since we moved from the Meadow?
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Post by neilsalop on Jan 17, 2020 20:37:25 GMT 1
So everyone's happy with the identikit Lego meadow then?. With the wind howling through the corners .So if and when Stoke get promoted back to the prem it'll have been a waste if money when they sell out each week? .Part of the reason the Meadows half empty is because its a soul_less box with a cr@p infrastructure around it .and the difficulty trying to get tickets if you're not a S/T holder; don't start me on that.Could be managed so much better.I reckon vast majority of fans agree the matchday experience is dire The old Meadow was special being so close to the town centre and a great setting but looking at my own match day these days I can't say it is that different. I used to drink in the Nags, packed with fans, and I now drink in the Prince of Wales, packed with fans (and better beer!). Miss the walk down the Cop but being ferried to the ground on a very short coach journey certainly ain't too shabby. I stood at the old place, I stand at the new place. I sang there, I sing here (I miss some of the old songs but the atmosphere is generally better now than at a lot of old games over the years). One plus is I can get a beer at half time here. I miss the old place f course but, personally, can't see how it is " dire" now. That just smacks of typical modern syndrome of people having to see everything in absolutes - it's either absolutely s**te or absolutely great. I loved Gay Meadow, I loved the setting, the terracing, the Wakeman End emptying onto the Riverside when it started p**sing down, the proximity to God knows how many decent pubs, the ease of parking close to the ground, I even loved the fact that you could go for a slash and with a bit of neck craning still keep an eye on what was happening on (some of) the pitch.
I hated the new ground when we first moved there, the lack of atmosphere, the parking problems, the location and to top it off we moved there with a sh** badge. It has however grown on me massively, I too sometimes use the POW and get the bus to the ground, sometimes I park in Sutton and use the fan park, neither are as good as leaving the pub at 2:55 and making kick-off, but it's not that bad, the atmosphere has improved and it's now started to create its own memories.
GM was home, for a long time the MWM was just a place where we played our home games, but now it is starting to become a home. I don't think it will ever replace GM in my heart, but it now has its own place there.
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Post by Namur on Jan 17, 2020 20:56:36 GMT 1
So everyone's happy with the identikit Lego meadow then?. With the wind howling through the corners .So if and when Stoke get promoted back to the prem it'll have been a waste if money when they sell out each week? .Part of the reason the Meadows half empty is because its a soul_less box with a cr@p infrastructure around it .and the difficulty trying to get tickets if you're not a S/T holder; don't start me on that.Could be managed so much better.I reckon vast majority of fans agree the matchday experience is dire What I don't get is why, if it's such a soulless place with such a dire matchday experience our gates have doubled since we moved from the Meadow? Because most of it is just internet hyperbole. Seems quite often the net and social media is full of people wittering on about how great the olden days were. In some aspects it was better, but a lot of it is seen through rose tinted glasses by washed up people. In the real world, the new place is somewhere where generations of supporters can come along for the match and have an enjoyable experience. Generally speaking viewing is a lot better, good facilities and groups of supporters working with the club to improve the match day experience. I miss the old Meadow terribly. But you know, I enjoy the new place, it’s helped the club move forward. And as time goes on, memories are made and it feels more homely.
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Post by callum on Jan 17, 2020 21:08:23 GMT 1
The old Meadow was special being so close to the town centre and a great setting but looking at my own match day these days I can't say it is that different. I used to drink in the Nags, packed with fans, and I now drink in the Prince of Wales, packed with fans (and better beer!). Miss the walk down the Cop but being ferried to the ground on a very short coach journey certainly ain't too shabby. I stood at the old place, I stand at the new place. I sang there, I sing here (I miss some of the old songs but the atmosphere is generally better now than at a lot of old games over the years). One plus is I can get a beer at half time here. I miss the old place f course but, personally, can't see how it is " dire" now. That just smacks of typical modern syndrome of people having to see everything in absolutes - it's either absolutely s**te or absolutely great. I loved Gay Meadow, I loved the setting, the terracing, the Wakeman End emptying onto the Riverside when it started p**sing down, the proximity to God knows how many decent pubs, the ease of parking close to the ground, I even loved the fact that you could go for a slash and with a bit of neck craning still keep an eye on what was happening on (some of) the pitch.
I hated the new ground when we first moved there, the lack of atmosphere, the parking problems, the location and to top it off we moved there with a sh** badge. It has however grown on me massively, I too sometimes use the POW and get the bus to the ground, sometimes I park in Sutton and use the fan park, neither are as good as leaving the pub at 2:55 and making kick-off, but it's not that bad, the atmosphere has improved and it's now started to create its own memories.
GM was home, for a long time the MWM was just a place where we played our home games, but now it is starting to become a home. I don't think it will ever replace GM in my heart, but it now has its own place there.
Totally agree about the old Meadow, full of character which we will never replicate. The biggest bug bear for me with the current ground is walking back to Meole P+R to get the car, walking down a dirty old footpath, seems to take for ever and then a queue to get out of the P+R. This does put me off going at times.
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Post by staffordshrew on Jan 17, 2020 23:38:18 GMT 1
It's a shame Ikeas strategy is to take on run-down retail parks with empty units and put their name in the area to increase footfall and make the retail park popular again. We need a development with enough money to buy MWM and make it worth our while to build again as part of a business park, new joint Telford/Shrewsbury emergency hospital, park and ride and Parkway station development just out on the dual carriageway as you leave Shrewsbury.
Never going to happen, for example, Mr kerchinski favours redeveloping the old hospital rather than building something purpose built from scratch.
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