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Nov 3, 2019 17:01:19 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2019 17:01:19 GMT 1
Where do you get that 60% of income tax figure from? It's so secret that Labour don't even know themselves about secretly wanting to tax the rich at 60% As for inheritance tax, that's regarded as optional amongst the really wealthy who can engage inheritance tax planners and stash money away in pension plans and such. It's the marginal tax payers who get screwed for massive marginal tax rates and can't afford to employ the best financial advisors. The people who lose their house to pay for their care package, the people who have made a modest financial success of their lives, those sort of people that I am on board with. Inheritance tax is probably the most decisive tax that i would arhue against.
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Nov 3, 2019 17:06:03 GMT 1
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Post by Valerioch on Nov 3, 2019 17:06:03 GMT 1
Mike Ashley living rent free in Lefties heads it would seem 😂
If he pulled the plug on Sports Direct tomorrow, thousands more would be jobless and eventually claiming dole off the tax payer, if they couldn’t find a new job.
If he pulled the plug tomorrow, less corporation tax would be collected by HM Revenue & Customs too.
So the government would have less tax Incoming, to pay for more dole. Great economics that. Really adds up...
The thought of the Communists like McDonell raising Corporation Tax to 25+% is very worrying. A far bigger threat to business in this country than any form of Brexit
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Nov 3, 2019 17:11:05 GMT 1
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Post by Valerioch on Nov 3, 2019 17:11:05 GMT 1
It's so secret that Labour don't even know themselves about secretly wanting to tax the rich at 60% As for inheritance tax, that's regarded as optional amongst the really wealthy who can engage inheritance tax planners and stash money away in pension plans and such. It's the marginal tax payers who get screwed for massive marginal tax rates and can't afford to employ the best financial advisors. The people who lose their house to pay for their care package, the people who have made a modest financial success of their lives, those sort of people that I am on board with. Inheritance tax is probably the most decisive tax that i would arhue against. IHT will never be a tax I have to worry about, but I find it staggering the Labour Party wishes to increase it. Talk about punishing those who’ve worked hard all their lives, to be fortunate enough to leave security and assets behind to their loved ones. Awful punishment tax that I think should be abolished
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Post by neilsalop on Nov 3, 2019 17:31:11 GMT 1
Mike Ashley living rent free in Lefties heads it would seem 😂 If he pulled the plug on Sports Direct tomorrow, thousands more would be jobless and eventually claiming dole off the tax payer, if they couldn’t find a new job. If he pulled the plug tomorrow, less corporation tax would be collected by HM Revenue & Customs too. So the government would have less tax Incoming, to pay for more dole. Great economics that. Really adds up... The thought of the Communists like McDonell raising Corporation Tax to 25+% is very worrying. A far bigger threat to business in this country than any form of Brexit 25% is around the the average for the larger, better off nations in the EU, the G7, the G20 and about 1.5% higher than the global average. Hardly a commie threat to the economy.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2019 17:44:30 GMT 1
Mike Ashley living rent free in Lefties heads it would seem 😂 If he pulled the plug on Sports Direct tomorrow, thousands more would be jobless and eventually claiming dole off the tax payer, if they couldn’t find a new job. If he pulled the plug tomorrow, less corporation tax would be collected by HM Revenue & Customs too. So the government would have less tax Incoming, to pay for more dole. Great economics that. Really adds up... The thought of the Communists like McDonell raising Corporation Tax to 25+% is very worrying. A far bigger threat to business in this country than any form of Brexit Yet the demand for sports goods would still be there so consumers would go elsewhere to a competitor. You've even said in your answer if the former employees couldn't find a job they would unemployed. Ummm well yeah. That's how the job market works the competitor would like pick up most of the slack, see Thomas Cook stores being taken over by Hays. Aggregate demand wouldn't decrease. Indeed how communist to raise corporation tax to rates similar to other communist strongholds like the USA and Germany. In fact I was probably too kind. You are an utter moron arnt you. The USAs effective Corp tax rate is 27% Well above your business threatening 25% communist threshold. home.kpmg/xx/en/home/services/tax/tax-tools-and-resources/tax-rates-online/corporate-tax-rates-table.html
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Post by shrewsace on Nov 3, 2019 17:46:16 GMT 1
Mike Ashley living rent free in Lefties heads it would seem 😂 If he pulled the plug on Sports Direct tomorrow, thousands more would be jobless and eventually claiming dole off the tax payer, if they couldn’t find a new job. If he pulled the plug tomorrow, less corporation tax would be collected by HM Revenue & Customs too. So the government would have less tax Incoming, to pay for more dole. Great economics that. Really adds up... The thought of the Communists like McDonell raising Corporation Tax to 25+% is very worrying. A far bigger threat to business in this country than any form of Brexit 25% is around the the average for the larger, better off nations in the EU, the G7, the G20 and about 1.5% higher than the global average. Hardly a commie threat to the economy. Utterly ridiculous to suggest 26% corporation tax - 21% for profits up to £300k - is 'communist' levels. It was at 28% in 2010 under the coalition and never got under 34% under Thatcher. Just illustrates how some people internalise the propaganda pumped out by the Mail, Sun, Guido Fawkes etc and then repeat it by-rote, without applying any critical thinking. It's truly pitiful.
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Post by staffordshrew on Nov 3, 2019 17:47:24 GMT 1
Mike Ashley living rent free in Lefties heads it would seem 😂 If he pulled the plug on Sports Direct tomorrow, thousands more would be jobless and eventually claiming dole off the tax payer, if they couldn’t find a new job. If he pulled the plug tomorrow, less corporation tax would be collected by HM Revenue & Customs too. So the government would have less tax Incoming, to pay for more dole. Great economics that. Really adds up... The thought of the Communists like McDonell raising Corporation Tax to 25+% is very worrying. A far bigger threat to business in this country than any form of Brexit I want this country to be so successful people can tell Ashley where to stick his zero hours contract low paid jobs. We are not going to be successful unless we can find a way to distribute the wealth so that the more mundane jobs in warehouses, etc. become more economic to develop the robots to do, leaving the human workforce to develop things creatively.
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Nov 3, 2019 17:48:27 GMT 1
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Post by shrewsace on Nov 3, 2019 17:48:27 GMT 1
Indeed. People's billionaire hero Mike Ashley has really put him in his place. Glad that good people as billionaire Mike are looking out for the homeless and poor the way he does. People like Mike Ashley shouldn’t be punished for having the audacity to make a success of their lives, and working damn hard for it to build from nothing. He’s worked hard for his money, he can do as he pleases with it Who's suggesting Ashley should be punished?
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Post by Valerioch on Nov 3, 2019 17:57:22 GMT 1
Gosh it’s going to be fun watching you all cry in to your cornflakes in 5 weeks 😂
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Post by shrewsace on Nov 3, 2019 17:58:26 GMT 1
Gosh it’s going to be fun watching you all cry in to your cornflakes in 5 weeks 😂 Well done lad, you've found your level.
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Nov 3, 2019 18:02:40 GMT 1
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Post by Valerioch on Nov 3, 2019 18:02:40 GMT 1
People like Mike Ashley shouldn’t be punished for having the audacity to make a success of their lives, and working damn hard for it to build from nothing. He’s worked hard for his money, he can do as he pleases with it Who's suggesting Ashley should be punished? Corbyn himself - as I’ve already said, see his tweet 2 days ago
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2019 18:09:06 GMT 1
Talk about punishing those who’ve worked hard all their lives, to be fortunate enough to leave security and assets behind to their loved ones. Lots of people work hard all their lives, but inheritance tax only benefits a fraction of them.
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Nov 3, 2019 18:14:43 GMT 1
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Post by shrewsace on Nov 3, 2019 18:14:43 GMT 1
Who's suggesting Ashley should be punished? Corbyn himself - as I’ve already said, see his tweet 2 days ago This one?
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Post by staffordshrew on Nov 3, 2019 18:19:43 GMT 1
Who's suggesting Ashley should be punished? Corbyn himself - as I’ve already said, see his tweet 2 days ago Any link to supposed tweet? All I could find was: "The Tories are on the side of bad bosses and big corporations. Labour's on your side. Tories 'will strip workers of tea breaks and bank holidays' Labour warns A Boris government would also force workers onto zero hour contracts, it's claimed" Am I to assume Ashley may be a target because he is a bad boss?
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Nov 3, 2019 18:21:55 GMT 1
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Post by Valerioch on Nov 3, 2019 18:21:55 GMT 1
Talk about punishing those who’ve worked hard all their lives, to be fortunate enough to leave security and assets behind to their loved ones. Lots of people work hard all their lives, but inheritance tax only benefits a fraction of them. I’m wasn’t saying they don’t, as I said I won’t be effected by it.
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Nov 3, 2019 18:24:38 GMT 1
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Post by Valerioch on Nov 3, 2019 18:24:38 GMT 1
Corbyn himself - as I’ve already said, see his tweet 2 days ago Any link to supposed tweet? All I could find was: "The Tories are on the side of bad bosses and big corporations. Labour's on your side. Tories 'will strip workers of tea breaks and bank holidays' Labour warns A Boris government would also force workers onto zero hour contracts, it's claimed" Am I to assume Ashley may be a target because he is a bad boss? I’m not the one who brought Mike Ashley in to this thread... Also Those claims are a load of Labour claptrap anyway. Wheel out the same rubbish each campaign, luckily enough people see through the fantasies
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Post by neilsalop on Nov 3, 2019 18:26:03 GMT 1
Who's suggesting Ashley should be punished? Corbyn himself - as I’ve already said, see his tweet 2 days ago Is it really a punishment to pay your taxes? I don't particularly like paying tax, but I dislike the alternatives more. Would Ashley have become a billionaire without roads built with taxpayers money, without police to protect his warehouses and shops, without staff having access to housing, healthcare and education paid for by taxes? I know he would like to have even more money, as would we all, but how much is enough? To quote the Boss "poor man wanna be rich, rich man wanna be king, and a king ain't satisfied 'til he rules everything".
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Post by staffordshrew on Nov 3, 2019 18:37:45 GMT 1
Any link to supposed tweet? All I could find was: "The Tories are on the side of bad bosses and big corporations. Labour's on your side. Tories 'will strip workers of tea breaks and bank holidays' Labour warns A Boris government would also force workers onto zero hour contracts, it's claimed" Am I to assume Ashley may be a target because he is a bad boss? I’m not the one who brought Mike Ashley in to this thread... That's odd, I thought you said you did bring Ashley into this thread two days ago? Valerioch Weekly Poll Creator ********** Valerioch Avatar Posts: 7,426 Member is Online GE 2019 29 minutes ago via mobile Quote like Post Options Post by Valerioch on 29 minutes ago shrewsace Avatar 43 minutes ago shrewsace said: Valerioch Avatar 7 hours ago Valerioch said: People like Mike Ashley shouldn’t be punished for having the audacity to make a success of their lives, and working damn hard for it to build from nothing. He’s worked hard for his money, he can do as he pleases with it Who's suggesting Ashley should be punished?
Corbyn himself - as I’ve already said, see his tweet 2 days ago It's like having our very own Boris Johnson on here, changing tune at every opportunity.
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Post by staffordshrew on Nov 3, 2019 18:42:46 GMT 1
Inheritance tax is probably the most decisive tax that i would arhue against. IHT will never be a tax I have to worry about, but I find it staggering the Labour Party wishes to increase it. Talk about punishing those who’ve worked hard all their lives, to be fortunate enough to leave security and assets behind to their loved ones. Awful punishment tax that I think should be abolished It's avoidable to a large extent and when you have to pay it you are dead anyway.
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Nov 3, 2019 18:51:33 GMT 1
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Post by Valerioch on Nov 3, 2019 18:51:33 GMT 1
I’m not the one who brought Mike Ashley in to this thread... That's odd, I thought you said you did bring Ashley into this thread two days ago? Valerioch Weekly Poll Creator ********** Valerioch Avatar Posts: 7,426 Member is Online GE 2019 29 minutes ago via mobile Quote like Post Options Post by Valerioch on 29 minutes ago shrewsace Avatar 43 minutes ago shrewsace said: Valerioch Avatar 7 hours ago Valerioch said: People like Mike Ashley shouldn’t be punished for having the audacity to make a success of their lives, and working damn hard for it to build from nothing. He’s worked hard for his money, he can do as he pleases with it Who's suggesting Ashley should be punished?
Corbyn himself - as I’ve already said, see his tweet 2 days ago It's like having our very own Boris Johnson on here, changing tune at every opportunity. Suggest you re-read this thread and then retract that statement Got our very own Corbyn here, living in cloud cuckoo land without a clue of the facts of what’s going on
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Post by staffordshrew on Nov 3, 2019 19:01:26 GMT 1
I’m not the one who brought Mike Ashley in to this thread... That's odd, I thought you said you did bring Ashley into this thread two days ago? It's like having our very own Boris Johnson on here, changing tune at every opportunity. Are you denying that when asked "Who's suggesting Ashley should be punished?"
You replied: "Corbyn himself - as I’ve already said"? By the way, I retract the statement about you being our own Boris Johnson, that's an awful thing to say about anyone!
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Nov 3, 2019 19:06:29 GMT 1
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Post by Valerioch on Nov 3, 2019 19:06:29 GMT 1
That's odd, I thought you said you did bring Ashley into this thread two days ago? It's like having our very own Boris Johnson on here, changing tune at every opportunity. Are you denying that when asked "Who's suggesting Ashley should be punished?"
You replied: "Corbyn himself - as I’ve already said"? By the way, I retract the statement about you being our own Boris Johnson, that's an awful thing to say about anyone! I’m denying I first brought Michael Ashley in to this thread, how hard is that to comprehend ffs?
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Post by staffordshrew on Nov 3, 2019 19:07:57 GMT 1
So you’re happy to say goodbye to the nhs, social care et al, because you don’t trust Corbyns stance on brexit? Respect you as a poster GB but that makes no sense to me.👍 I know my statement is to the point but trust me, it has not been an easy one to make. Some won't believe me but my conscience is clear. Perhaps I will come to regret it, who knows? Perhaps I should also debate/clarify more how I have reached this point but I would be shot down immediately by some on this board, as a postscript sadly that has already happened. If you are happy with 5 more years of Boris leading this country then go ahead.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2019 19:13:22 GMT 1
I know my statement is to the point but trust me, it has not been an easy one to make. Some won't believe me but my conscience is clear. Perhaps I will come to regret it, who knows? Perhaps I should also debate/clarify more how I have reached this point but I would be shot down immediately by some on this board, as a postscript sadly that has already happened. If you are happy with 5 more years of Boris leading this country then go ahead. That I shall, thanks 😊
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Nov 3, 2019 19:39:59 GMT 1
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Post by salop27 on Nov 3, 2019 19:39:59 GMT 1
Another clear difference between the main two parties on Scottish independence. Conservatives say no to another independence vote while Labour say yes. The Scottish Labour leader is not impressed!
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Post by staffordshrew on Nov 3, 2019 19:50:47 GMT 1
Another clear difference between the main two parties on Scottish independence. Conservatives say no to another independence vote while Labour say yes. The Scottish Labour leader is not impressed! The irony is that if the Conservatives form the next government there almost certainly will be another independence referendum and they almost certainly will vote for independence.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2019 20:02:10 GMT 1
IHT will never be a tax I have to worry about, but I find it staggering the Labour Party wishes to increase it. Talk about punishing those who’ve worked hard all their lives, to be fortunate enough to leave security and assets behind to their loved ones. Awful punishment tax that I think should be abolished It's avoidable to a large extent and when you have to pay it you are dead anyway. Yes... but my kids are not... I have already paid tax on that income to the family estate.... so the government should leave it alone
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Post by mattmw on Nov 3, 2019 20:23:11 GMT 1
At the risk of undermining my wet liberal credentials I think the recent changes to inheritence tax are a decent move by the government as they take account of rising house prices. So in 2019-20 I think you can leave assets of £325,000 property allowance of £150,000 tax free so £475,000 in total, and that rises to £500,000 by 2021. Then anything above £500,000 gets taxed at 40%
With house prices rising so much in the last 20 years a lot of people can be in properties that are worth a lot more than they paid for them, and its understandable people want to leave property to their children to get onto the property ladder.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2019 20:28:18 GMT 1
People like Mike Ashley shouldn’t be punished for having the audacity to make a success of their lives, and working damn hard for it to build from nothing. Gonna sound really selfish now, but people like me shouldn’t be punished for wanting to care for the sick, and the dying. Yet the tories decided the best thing to do was to cut nurses wages by 14% over the last 8 years rather than making vultures like Ashley pay a bit extra on his taxes and profits whilst building up a massive fortune based partly on paying his employees a pittance. Forgive me for not having a great deal of sympathy for him. Especially as I’m pretty sure you’ll appreciate the service we provide more than Ashley’s, if your appendix ruptures?
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Post by Valerioch on Nov 3, 2019 20:31:16 GMT 1
The fact the Labour Party wishes to lower the Nil Rate Band on IHT to just £125,000 is an abomination to the working man they claim to stand for. Work hard but we will tax you not once but twice, the second time on your grieving family.
Matron correctly mentioned above millions of hard working people aren’t effected by IHT. If Labour enforce that policy those millions would soon face IHT
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