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Post by chameleon on Oct 23, 2019 20:25:59 GMT 1
What should the capacity be ? Just curiosity what people think. With Shrewsbury’s population increasing rapidly and across Shropshire should we be thinking bigger than ten thousand. When we play the bigger sides down here we seem to get good crowds. Should we ever get to the Championship again just wondering what sort of crowds we might get ? ( I never stop dreaming) !
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Oct 23, 2019 20:34:51 GMT 1
About 14k:
- An away end behind a goal and corner that could accommodate 3000. - A home stand behind the other goal holding 2000-2500, with at least the back half safe standing - One regulation side stand like the West holding 3000. - Other side stand two tiered totalling approx 5k, with the top tier being closed whilst we continue to average 5k-6k.
And being built in our town centre and looking nothing like the Montgomery Waters.
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Post by chameleon on Oct 23, 2019 20:47:22 GMT 1
That’s interesting. I was thinking more like a new stadium on where Meole brace golf course is. 14,000 sounds good. Hopefully wider concourses.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2019 20:49:16 GMT 1
Great subject. The newcomers who form the larger segment of the burgeoning population are irrelevant as they are solely financial opportunists with no enduring loyalty to this town or county. 10k is perfectly adequate.
A sage poster on here suggested The Riverside Centre as a suitable site. Worthy of investigation.
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Post by chameleon on Oct 23, 2019 21:15:01 GMT 1
I’m trying to think of stadiums in town centres in our four divisions ?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2019 21:18:37 GMT 1
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Post by ssshrew on Oct 23, 2019 21:18:47 GMT 1
Filled in corners.
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Post by chameleon on Oct 23, 2019 21:25:46 GMT 1
Wolves and Peterborough of course.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Oct 23, 2019 21:51:15 GMT 1
I’m trying to think of stadiums in town centres in our four divisions ? Rotherham and Lincoln spring to mind pretty instantly.
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Post by ssshrew on Oct 23, 2019 22:01:13 GMT 1
Bradford
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2019 22:07:29 GMT 1
Newcastle United
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Post by thesensationaljt on Oct 23, 2019 22:35:05 GMT 1
Looking at it from a different angle. AFC Telford. Look how the town has grown. Have the attendances at home matches grown? Nope. Have the hundreds from the massive house building in Shifnal flocked to Telford, Shrewsbury or Shifnal Town ? Not really. People have allegiances to their home town club. That's why not far from me, there is a house called The Villa. When I lived about 10 yards from Molly Knew, I still used to get in the Ford Popular, and drive off in a puff of smoke with my son to Gay Meadow to follow our favourites. The once, we made our way over to Shrowsbury to cheer on Salop in their Juan Juan draw with Rochdale, instead of popping over the road to see the Wufflers out class some Juan 3 - 0. You see, I'm addicted to Shrewsbury Town.......(and Cowdenbeath fc).......there, I've said it now. Next thing you know, wheel 'ave Yorkshire buggers coming down to support us.
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 23, 2019 22:50:11 GMT 1
Yes, needs to be bigger and with easier parking and electric plug in points to please the environmentalists and help get permission for a few more spaces, just off the A5, linked to a business park so Saturday and evening parking could be shared with the businesses.
All this depending, of course, on what we could afford with the money the current site would bring in.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Oct 23, 2019 22:57:51 GMT 1
How many times have we sold out a 10,000 stadium in the 10+ years we have been there?
How many times did we get over 10,000 at the old stadium
10,000 is fine for a town of our size. Hopefully if we ever build another new stadium it would be a better job than we have done with this one though - but i guess most clubs that have moved would say the same.
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Post by FloreatShrew on Oct 23, 2019 23:07:02 GMT 1
A railway station with a suitable name
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2019 7:41:06 GMT 1
A 27k stadium with a wall at one end of all safe standing should be sufficient.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Oct 24, 2019 8:46:43 GMT 1
As long as its got a stand behind the goal that is all standing then I think it would be a good move. See no reason why that shouldn't now be possible. I think the capacity of the current ground is sufficient. Might get shot down for this but with regards to a town centre location, would the wider community of Shrewsbury really agree to that? Never really thought of Shrewsbury as a footballing town, sure plenty were happy to see the club pushed out to the surroundings. I think it would be one hell of an effort to see the club return there...
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Post by zenfootball2 on Oct 24, 2019 9:52:31 GMT 1
i dont see a move to the town center is feasable, the cost of an out of town stadium would be less. the council plans for the town envisage a street caffe culture and no cars considering how obstructve and unhelpfull the council were when we moved the stadium to its current location has anything changed in that regard. they seem to be building houses at an alarming rate all over town so a new one would need to be on the fringe of town and further out. i think the current location works and most of the time we dont fill it so the only thing i would change is fill in the corners and then it might be less cold in winter games.
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 24, 2019 10:06:04 GMT 1
Great subject. The newcomers who form the larger segment of the burgeoning population are irrelevant as they are solely financial opportunists with no enduring loyalty to this town or county. 10k is perfectly adequate. A sage poster on here suggested The Riverside Centre as a suitable site. Worthy of investigation. Depends on the timescale. Newcomers don't come, but their kids might and, controversially, it's to things like the leasing cup for a pound or two and, less controversially, players visits to schools, open days and cup runs that can hook them in. I suppose the Riverside or Frankwell car park, with a multi storey built for the parking, sites are too expensive. It would be nice though. It's bringing a new site into use and owning land where, say, a motorway service area could go on a redesignated A5 to M54 that pay.
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Post by philharvey on Oct 24, 2019 10:46:33 GMT 1
Do think that where it is at the moment is not brilliant,the Old Meadow was perfect apart from the little matter of the river,club record 18,900 if ever they did build another one it would have to have car parking facilities for a potential 12 to 15k gate, and an away end to cater for max 3,000 visiting supporters, certainly won't happen in my time tho,still miss the old meadow days.
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Post by northwestman on Oct 24, 2019 11:06:31 GMT 1
The value of the existing site must have gone up quite a bit surely with all the development going on around it?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2019 11:09:15 GMT 1
I don't see us moving in the foreseeable future...
There is scope (if ever needed) to increase the capacity of our ground. I like the idea of filling in the corners to give the ground a finished off appearance. Perhaps also increase the capacity of the away end?
In reality however since we moved to the new ground, how many times have we sold out for league games? Not many really. We've certainly more than enough capacity in the home stands as things stand.
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Post by martinshrew on Oct 24, 2019 11:13:21 GMT 1
I don't see us moving in the foreseeable future... There is scope (if ever needed) to increase the capacity of our ground. I like the idea of filling in the corners to give the ground a finished off appearance. Perhaps also increase the capacity of the away end? In reality however since we moved to the new ground, how many times have we sold out for league games? Not many really. We've certainly more than enough capacity in the home stands as things stand. The thing we miss out on is away gates. The likes of Sunderland, Ipswich etc, and whoever the two "big clubs" are next year will sell as many as you give them. That is only a few times a year though!
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Post by tvor on Oct 24, 2019 11:16:02 GMT 1
The away end has sold out many more times than the entire stadium has sold out. Increasing the capacity of that stand could have economic benefits depending on the cost of increasing the capacity to say 3000.
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Post by bictonshrew on Oct 24, 2019 12:02:18 GMT 1
A(nother) new stadium will not be built in my lifetime.
No need.
No point in increasing capacity of the away end either. It's true the 'bigger sides' would take more if they could but for the bigger games this would be at the expense of our own fans.
Can't think of (m)any games where there's been a full away end and many empty home seats?
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Post by martinshrew on Oct 24, 2019 12:19:44 GMT 1
If they could get a good price for the existing land and some kind of worthwhile deal around the area of the new link road we could learn from the mistakes of this ground and effectively start again. I'd certainly make the away end 3,000 for starters, and locate it at the furthest end of the car park for crowd control and logistical reasons!
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Post by wakemanender on Oct 24, 2019 12:44:17 GMT 1
As someone else has said the old Gay Meadow site was perfect apart from the river. There is no doubt we have been spoilt. Never heard of anyone having parking problems there or a decent very nearby pub. Its not just about the stadium. Its about the day out or at least it used to be.
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Post by Exkeeper on Oct 24, 2019 14:57:08 GMT 1
Gary Peters, who was a big fan of the New Meadow, once told us that the foundations at the new ground had been designed to allow a second tier on all the current stands. This means that the capacity could rise to almost 20k, if the corners were filled in at the same time. He omitted to tell us who would pay for it.
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Post by gainsparkshrew on Oct 24, 2019 16:30:14 GMT 1
Gary Peters, who was a big fan of the New Meadow, once told us that the foundations at the new ground had been designed to allow a second tier on all the current stands. This means that the capacity could rise to almost 20k, if the corners were filled in at the same time. He omitted to tell us who would pay for it. Yep I remember reading that as well ! Can't think of any reason why we should consider moving, unless a developer made the club an out of this world offer for the ground. The town has developed out and around the ground, we're no longer in a suburb of Church Stretton as Hereford fans used to call the ground. The only problem is access and lack of parking. Is it me or have the number of P&R buses to the ground reduced dramatically over the years? We need P&R routes that stop in the suburbs on their way to the ground rather than running straight from the P&R straight to the ground,E.G if you live in Sundorne and you don't want to park your car near the ground then you have 4 choices-: 1 Drive to Tesco and get the P&R car from there 2 Catch a service bus into town and then one out to the ground 3 Walk 4 Bike Surely in these "green" times that we live then an option would be for the P&R match day bus to stop on Whitchurch Road ? But there again Shrewsbury is the largest town/city in Europe that doesn't have Sunday bus services so what do I know?
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Oct 24, 2019 20:08:01 GMT 1
Gary Peters, who was a big fan of the New Meadow, once told us that the foundations at the new ground had been designed to allow a second tier on all the current stands. This means that the capacity could rise to almost 20k, if the corners were filled in at the same time. He omitted to tell us who would pay for it. Also omitted to tell us who would fill it....
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