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Post by Ambergambler on Aug 11, 2019 21:06:26 GMT 1
Not being sexist or call my old fashioned but is it really needed to have a woman commentating on every sport on the BBC nowadays? Just put the rugby highlights on and there is a woman commentator. I know we live in an equal opportunity world but some things just don’t work .
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Post by SeanBroseley on Aug 11, 2019 21:08:07 GMT 1
I used to like the woman commentator who did the matches for BBC local radio in London.
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Post by Chief Inspector Swan on Aug 11, 2019 21:13:09 GMT 1
“Not being sexist”
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2019 21:20:41 GMT 1
Not being sexist or call my old fashioned but is it really needed to have a woman commentating on every sport on the BBC nowadays? Just put the rugby highlights on and there is a woman commentator. I know we live in an equal opportunity world but some things just don’t work . I agree, surely they have ironing or cooking at home to keep em busy. Not being sexist of course!
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Post by Ambergambler on Aug 11, 2019 21:21:05 GMT 1
Sorry that’s not PC swanny it’s my opinion the tone of a woman’s voice just does not work in certain sporting events. The BBC were criticised for not having enough female representation in some roles so have now gone over the top and become Happy to pander to the PC brigade.
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Post by Ambergambler on Aug 11, 2019 21:23:21 GMT 1
Not being sexist or call my old fashioned but is it really needed to have a woman commentating on every sport on the BBC nowadays? Just put the rugby highlights on and there is a woman commentator. I know we live in an equal opportunity world but some things just don’t work . I agree, surely they have ironing or cooking at home to keep em busy. Not being sexist of course! Expected that answer just an opinion that it spoils the commentary in certain sports. If people were being honest and not so PC they would agree.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2019 21:27:27 GMT 1
Obviously not heard James Bond then 😜
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Post by R6ix on Aug 11, 2019 21:29:11 GMT 1
have to agree.same on talksport.and 5 live put game on, woman commentater,i turned it off,just not for me
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2019 21:43:36 GMT 1
If people were being honest and not so PC they would agree. Well to be honest I was only pulling your leg, but that’s a very presumptive thing to say?
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Post by Ambergambler on Aug 11, 2019 21:59:00 GMT 1
If people were being honest and not so PC they would agree. Well to be honest I was only pulling your leg, but that’s a very presumptive thing to say? [br Let’s see John Motson or Alex thingy commentating on the big match........come on lads admit it it’s crap , no wonder Motty was retired early.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2019 22:30:13 GMT 1
Hate to think what you will be saying about the female officials for the European Super Cup on Wednesday.
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on Aug 11, 2019 22:33:08 GMT 1
I don’t like any commentators, football is a simple game and I can understand what’s happening without their help. I generally watch TV games with the sound off.
However, the worst commentator of all is Jonathan ‘he should have scored’ Pearce. Not only does he have an extremely irritating voice and delivery, he only ever states the bleedin’ obvious.
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Post by thesensationaljt on Aug 11, 2019 22:52:50 GMT 1
I watched the match live on Sky. Juan of the summarisers is a lady called Maggie Alphonsi, and I can assure you, she knows her stuff. On the udder hand, who the hell was the woman interviewing Welsh captain Alun Wyn Jones after the game? I was expecting her to ask him what his favourite colour was. No wonder he buggered off. I also watch the speedway on BT Sport, and they have women interviewers, and they're excellent and well clued up.
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Post by highlandshrew on Aug 11, 2019 23:04:05 GMT 1
Not being sexist or call my old fashioned but is it really needed to have a woman commentating on every sport on the BBC nowadays? Just put the rugby highlights on and there is a woman commentator. I know we live in an equal opportunity world but some things just don’t work . In what way do you think you are 'not being sexist' questioning the presence of women sports commentators on the BBC? I would have thought that this was pretty near a perfect example of sexism myself. Oh, and while I can't comment on the woman in question commentating on the egg chasing, I do know that Alison Mitchell is a very good addition to TMS, as is Melinda Farrell on CricInfo. Both easily hold their own in a previously male dominated environment.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2019 23:13:31 GMT 1
Each to their own isn't it really.
There's just about enough s**te punditry on all sports from males as well as females. The pc stick is always thrown about by those who feel guilty at heart for their own words. Ie "I'm not sexist but..." why bring sex into it at all? Just say so and so is s**t.
To add to the good pile is Orla Chennaoui who hosted the tour de France on eurosport. Knows her stuff.
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Post by Red Rose In Exile on Aug 11, 2019 23:56:57 GMT 1
Is this real thread. Are we still in 1970s
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Post by Liam on Aug 12, 2019 0:40:25 GMT 1
Obviously not heard James Bond then 😜 James Bond has these days gone Full Partridge, and somehow become an irreplaceable, only-on-local-radio institution. Whilst the average standard of Radio Shropshire's output - an indeed radio everywhere - will increase significantly upon his eventual retirement in 2100, I for one will rue the day. Listening to him interviewing young, working class men from the 21st century is like listening to that time Ali G interviewed Jacob Rees-Mogg, only in reverse and twice as glorious.
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Post by Ambergambler on Aug 12, 2019 6:32:02 GMT 1
It’s not about knowledgable people I guess it’s what we are used to. It’s about opinions as some people say they just switch off . It’s how it sounds not what they say.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2019 6:59:36 GMT 1
It’s not about knowledgable people I guess it’s what we are used to. It’s about opinions as some people say they just switch off . It’s how it sounds not what they say. Lol perhaps you could mess around with the eq of your sound system then. To get them to sound less female. How strange.
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on Aug 12, 2019 8:21:13 GMT 1
This subject has dredged up the awful Alan Green from my subconscious and I just hope I can get him back there ASAP.
Orla Chennaoui is a good shout from vincentvega. Just compare her enthusiasm and knowledge with the unlistenable tosh from Eurosport’s Carlton Kirby.
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Post by tvor on Aug 12, 2019 10:06:34 GMT 1
They're all commentators, it's a shame some people feel the need to differentiate based on their gender. There are just good, bad and indifferent commentators, some men and some women fall into each category.
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Post by venceremos on Aug 12, 2019 10:36:01 GMT 1
They're all commentators, it's a shame some people feel the need to differentiate based on their gender. There are just good, bad and indifferent commentators, some men and some women fall into each category. Exactly this. Ambergambler can't avoid being sexist when he says something self-evidently sexist (women shouldn't be sports commentators) simply by qualifying it with "I'm not being sexist"! He has to accept that he is, own it and defend it if he must. Have to say he lost what little sympathy I had for his argument when he trotted out the "PC brigade" cliché. There are some excellent commentators, men and women, and some not so good. Why anyone thinks the job should be an exclusively male preserve is beyond me. Ambergambler - How are you about women reading the news or presenting the weather report?
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Post by Ambergambler on Aug 12, 2019 10:59:25 GMT 1
They're all commentators, it's a shame some people feel the need to differentiate based on their gender. There are just good, bad and indifferent commentators, some men and some women fall into each category. Exactly this. Ambergambler can't avoid being sexist when he says something self-evidently sexist (women shouldn't be sports commentators) simply by qualifying it with "I'm not being sexist"! He has to accept that he is, own it and defend it if he must. Have to say he lost what little sympathy I had for his argument when he trotted out the "PC brigade" cliché. There are some excellent commentators, men and women, and some not so good. Why anyone thinks the job should be an exclusively male preserve is beyond me. Ambergambler - How are you about women reading the news or presenting the weather report? I have not said they should not be commenting does it improve the listening experience imo on men’s football it doesn’t. I’m possibly to set in my ways. It’s like cricket, boxing, rugby etc certain voices commentary and views by familiar ex sportsmen just sound right again imo.
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Post by venceremos on Aug 12, 2019 11:29:33 GMT 1
Exactly this. Ambergambler can't avoid being sexist when he says something self-evidently sexist (women shouldn't be sports commentators) simply by qualifying it with "I'm not being sexist"! He has to accept that he is, own it and defend it if he must. Have to say he lost what little sympathy I had for his argument when he trotted out the "PC brigade" cliché. There are some excellent commentators, men and women, and some not so good. Why anyone thinks the job should be an exclusively male preserve is beyond me. Ambergambler - How are you about women reading the news or presenting the weather report? I have not said they should not be commenting does it improve the listening experience imo on men’s football it doesn’t. I’m possibly to set in my ways. It’s like cricket, boxing, rugby etc certain voices commentary and views by familiar ex sportsmen just sound right again imo. I can understand that you're used to the familiarity of a man's voice but, as others have said, there are plenty of women whose commentary adds to the enjoyment (for me, Alison Mitchell and Isa Guha on TMS are good examples) and, just as with men, there are also women whose commentary adds little or nothing. But you seem to be saying it's purely down to the tone of voice and I can't begin to agree with that.
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Post by Ambergambler on Aug 12, 2019 12:40:00 GMT 1
It’s like that comfy slippers argument, most male pundits also not great . We were speaking about this at work also and a couple of ladies even said they rather the usual suspects commentating. I think I ment the shoe horning of genders into roles for the sake of it is just to be politically correct.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2019 12:43:00 GMT 1
If they know their stuff then I'm not fussed. It's also about how commentators gel and bounce off each other, eg the TMS team.Scrum V on BBC Wales is another good example of a male/female commentary team.
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Post by nath on Aug 12, 2019 13:14:58 GMT 1
Not being sexist or call my old fashioned but is it really needed to have a woman commentating on every sport on the BBC nowadays? Just put the rugby highlights on and there is a woman commentator. I know we live in an equal opportunity world but some things just don’t work . You are both sexist and old fashioned.
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Post by venceremos on Aug 12, 2019 14:04:00 GMT 1
It’s like that comfy slippers argument, most male pundits also not great . We were speaking about this at work also and a couple of ladies even said they rather the usual suspects commentating. I think I ment the shoe horning of genders into roles for the sake of it is just to be politically correct. You're assuming some women have been "shoehorned" into commentating purely because they're women. Whether or not you like them as commentators, you're disregarding the fact that these aren't actors pretending to know about sport, they're knowledgeable and have a background in their sport. Why should they be prevented from commentating?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2019 14:37:34 GMT 1
It’s like that comfy slippers argument, most male pundits also not great . We were speaking about this at work also and a couple of ladies even said they rather the usual suspects commentating. I think I ment the shoe horning of genders into roles for the sake of it is just to be politically correct. You're assuming some women have been "shoehorned" into commentating purely because they're women. Whether or not you like them as commentators, you're disregarding the fact that these aren't actors pretending to know about sport, they're knowledgeable and have a background in their sport. Why should they be prevented from commentating? Bloody women. Coming over here and taking our commentary positions.
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Post by northwestman on Aug 12, 2019 15:35:44 GMT 1
They also seem to have taken over most of the 'sports correspondents' slots on the BBC news.
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