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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jul 20, 2019 8:57:21 GMT 1
Are there any about yet? Are the FourFourTwo and WSC's season previews already out? Where do they have us? Any others anyone has seen?
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Post by theriverside on Jul 20, 2019 9:14:43 GMT 1
Dave Edwards will get injured again.
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Post by Mortgagehound on Jul 20, 2019 9:21:28 GMT 1
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Post by frankwellshrews on Jul 20, 2019 9:39:57 GMT 1
14th will be a real let down this year, given what a cr@p division it's set to be and how much we've invested in the squad.
Says something when the runaway whipping boys of the division above the year before are the bookies favourites for promotion. (Of course it could also say the bookies know **** all; I don't think Ipswich will have it that easy)
We've got two clubs who in normal circumstances you would expect to see splashing the cash and looking to build a promotion challenge now facing a heavy handicap.
We won't get many better chances than this to have a shot at promotion and we need to grab it with both hands.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jul 20, 2019 9:52:05 GMT 1
we are normally the bookies faviorites for going down, last season i thought many of the teams were very poor , we have brought in (at least on paper some reasonable players) how well we do will depend on have we sorted out the defence ,do we have a mifield playe maker, do we have a docherty type player who can go on the charge and can we be more clinical in front of goal and has Ricketts learnt from last season and become more tacticly astute, if we have then i would be pleased with a comfortable 10th. my concern is we seem to be building on last season tactics(with players who have the brains to play independently) so what happens when you build a squad for one type of football and that is not working,what will be plan B
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Post by frankwellshrews on Jul 20, 2019 10:00:15 GMT 1
how well we do will depend on have we sorted out the defence ,do we have a mifield playe maker, do we have a docherty type player who can go on the charge and can we be more clinical in front of goal and has Ricketts learnt from last season and become more tacticly astute, So not many criteria for success in your view, then? Anything less than a top half finish is a failure in my view, we should at the very least be troubling the playoffs next year. We're starting to look a lot like the Labour party actually; up against a field of crooks and incompetents but hamstrung by poor leadership and being too busy patting ourselves on the back about our principles to focus on actually winning something. And before the usual suspects start harping on, yes I sincerely hope Sam the man proves me wrong.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jul 20, 2019 10:11:26 GMT 1
how well we do will depend on have we sorted out the defence ,do we have a mifield playe maker, do we have a docherty type player who can go on the charge and can we be more clinical in front of goal and has Ricketts learnt from last season and become more tacticly astute, So not many criteria for success in your view, then? Anything less than a top half finish is a failure in my view, we should at the very least be troubling the playoffs next year. We're starting to look a lot like the Labour party actually; up against a field of crooks and incompetents but hamstrung by poor leadership and being too busy patting ourselves on the back about our principles to focus on actually winning something. And before the usual suspects start harping on, yes I sincerely hope Sam the man proves me wrong. i am not expecting us to be Brazil but if we can have competent players in key areas we will improve on last year. 12 games in should give us an idea of how we shape up. for me a comfortable 10th is a lot better that spending most of the season struggling in the bottom half and narrowly avoiding relegation. i appreciate we will have a wide range of expectations let us hope we do better than last season.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2019 10:45:37 GMT 1
No matter how well we play the fans will moan like babies!
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Post by shropshirelad42 on Jul 20, 2019 11:01:49 GMT 1
I understand the reasoning behind "this is how we are going to play, (ie. 3-5-2) because we are good at it, and it's up to the opposition to find a way through/stop us scoring.
BUT...… !!! What if the opposition do find a way ?? We MUST have an alternative if needs be.
Personally I think a side playing attractive football and a top half finish will be acceptable after struggling last season.
As usual looking forward to the new season. COYB
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2019 12:08:27 GMT 1
Our squad is shaping up. Hopefully there are still a couple of quality additions to come. Key for me is how much Ricketts can kick on in his first full season in charge. He's now got Barrow along side him, hopefully that will be a positive when we have to switch tactics should plan A not work.
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Post by crayfish on Jul 20, 2019 12:42:52 GMT 1
Are there any about yet? Are the FourFourTwo and WSC's season previews already out? Where do they have us? Any others anyone has seen? The Racing Post produces a very good guide to the forthcoming season usually the Saturday before the season starts. Four four two and Wsc will produce their guides in the next week or so. incidentally The Sporting Life produced a pre season guide about ten years ago where they predicted the winners of all four English divisions and all of the Scottish divisions correctly. If you had followed them a pound stake would have won you £258,000. No one is on record of doing it not even the blokes who made the predictions. I had a treble on Sunderland Fulham and Brentfod wining their divisions many years ago and won a few grand. They can be good bets for instance this season A ten pound treble stake on Cardiff Sunderland and Plymouth, a not unlikely combination returns £6050.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jul 20, 2019 13:05:55 GMT 1
I understand the reasoning behind "this is how we are going to play, (ie. 3-5-2) because we are good at it, and it's up to the opposition to find a way through/stop us scoring. BUT...… !!! What if the opposition do find a way ?? We MUST have an alternative if needs be. Personally I think a side playing attractive football and a top half finish will be acceptable after struggling last season. As usual looking forward to the new season. COYB only time will tell if he has a plan B ,we all know whatever system you have with an astute opposition manager and some good players will find a way to nullify or overcome it. i hope we dont have all our eggs in one basket and possibly when ricketts made his refrence to players with brains, he wonts to have players with sufficient capabilities to adapt on the pitch. tweleve games in should show how well the team play and how well the system works
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Post by salop27 on Jul 20, 2019 13:42:26 GMT 1
Going to the game tomorrow and looking forward to seeing the new players in action. It will give some idea of the season ahead. Really hoping to see whoever plays wing backs to play like wing backs.
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Post by venceremos on Jul 20, 2019 14:00:13 GMT 1
14th will be a real let down this year, given what a cr@p division it's set to be and how much we've invested in the squad. Says something when the runaway whipping boys of the division above the year before are the bookies favourites for promotion. (Of course it could also say the bookies know **** all; I don't think Ipswich will have it that easy) We've got two clubs who in normal circumstances you would expect to see splashing the cash and looking to build a promotion challenge now facing a heavy handicap. We won't get many better chances than this to have a shot at promotion and we need to grab it with both hands. Why is the division set to be crap? Most of the players will be regular League 1 players. Why should this season be any different? Of course Ipswich will be amongst the favourites. They have greater resources than most of their rivals, including the teams relegated with them. They’ll have a changed squad and an experienced manager from the start. I wouldn’t choose them for the top 2 but it’s no slur on the rest if others think they will. Then again I can’t remember a season when there wasn’t someone saying the league is weak this time and we should be doing better - it’s like the first frost of winter. Last season, five clubs finished with more points than we had when we were considered unlucky not to go up automatically. Was that an exceptionally strong league? No, it’s all relative.
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Post by martinshrew on Jul 20, 2019 16:03:51 GMT 1
Swap Sunderland for Portsmouth and I'd agree fully with those "up and downs"
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2019 22:43:24 GMT 1
15th I think they’ve predicted, unless they’ve just changed their mind!
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Post by supermac11 on Jul 23, 2019 10:56:19 GMT 1
The safe bet would be somewhere between 18-24th. In the last 25 years we've only managed to finish higher than 18th on two occasions (& one of those was 16th).
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Post by Scarecrow on Jul 23, 2019 11:19:13 GMT 1
Anything below around mid table is a failure. We can’t start slow like we did last season, even if it’s just a scrappy win first game of the season.
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Jul 23, 2019 11:32:53 GMT 1
I did a bit for When Saturday Comes that will be out soon.
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Post by supermac11 on Jul 23, 2019 11:35:18 GMT 1
Anything below around mid table is a failure. We can’t start slow like we did last season, even if it’s just a scr@ppy win first game of the season. on the basis of the last 25 years anything above 18th should be regarded as a success.
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Post by gtismygod on Jul 23, 2019 11:52:01 GMT 1
Anything below around mid table is a failure. We can’t start slow like we did last season, even if it’s just a scr@ppy win first game of the season. on the basis of the last 25 years anything above 18th should be regarded as a success. Spot on. Not sure where this strange sense of entitlement to a mid-table finish comes from. Possibly from the Hurst season which has altered people's expectations of the club? We're a small club that spends cautiously, arguably punching marginally above our weight. Staying in the division is an ok season, anything better should be a pleasant surprise. We certainly shouldn't consider the season a failure if we finish below mid-table, and we definitely shouldn't be getting on the manger's/players' backs if we're in the bottom half.
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Post by kuffdam72 on Jul 23, 2019 11:57:04 GMT 1
bottom 10 at best
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Post by thesalmon on Jul 23, 2019 11:57:17 GMT 1
Anything below around mid table is a failure. We can’t start slow like we did last season, even if it’s just a scr@ppy win first game of the season. A draw against pompy will be OK in my book.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2019 11:59:20 GMT 1
I did a bit for When Saturday Comes that will be out soon. Must remember to cancel my subscription.
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Post by chameleon on Jul 23, 2019 12:04:38 GMT 1
If we sign Ched Evans it’s play offs. 20+ goal scorer and it’s game on.
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Post by tvor on Jul 23, 2019 12:07:03 GMT 1
If we sign Ched Evans it’s play offs. 20+ goal scorer and it’s game on. I agree, the addition of a quality forward could make a big difference. At present we look short of options up front and possibly short of goals as a side.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jul 23, 2019 12:18:08 GMT 1
I did a bit for When Saturday Comes that will be out soon. Spill the beans then our kid, what you go with? I'll still be buying it for everyone else's thoughts...
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jul 23, 2019 12:24:30 GMT 1
Anything below around mid table is a failure. We can’t start slow like we did last season, even if it’s just a scr@ppy win first game of the season. A draw against pompy will be OK in my book. We've a very difficult start to things. I like the idea that the defense is looking in decent nick (as well as it can be, early doors etc) as it should give us a good foundation to start things off, let the other part of the game come on in time (with injured players to return and what have you). Keep a clean sheet and you always have a chance. Hopefully anyhow...
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Post by welshshrew on Jul 23, 2019 12:47:16 GMT 1
Our points total for the last nine seasons at this level. 53,53,46,55,42,50,51,87,52 - Relegated or fighting relegation in 8 out of 9 seasons.
It's not going out on a limb to suggest we are likely to be in the bottom third.
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Post by staffordshrew on Jul 23, 2019 15:21:35 GMT 1
Dave Edwards will get injured again. Very sad, but probably true. All we can hope for is it's after scoring the winning goal in knocking a big club out of the FA cup, preferably Wolves.
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