Shrewsfan1985
The Loggerheads
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My first team is..: Shrewsbury
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Post by Shrewsfan1985 on Jul 17, 2019 20:56:30 GMT 1
Shrewsbury 0-1 Newport.(FT).
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jul 17, 2019 20:56:49 GMT 1
Ricketts out? Well I guess we wait and see what the reaction is, how it went...
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Post by FloreatShrew on Jul 17, 2019 21:06:22 GMT 1
We need a midfield, until then it's all fairly meaningless. Defence is brilliant mind. Strikers looked good too and there's a lot of talent and potential. Until that links together tho we've got problems.
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Post by Mortgagehound on Jul 17, 2019 21:08:08 GMT 1
Honeymoon period is over.....
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Post by tvor on Jul 17, 2019 21:08:53 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2019 21:11:37 GMT 1
We failed to score 😂
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jul 17, 2019 21:14:39 GMT 1
We need a midfield, until then it's all fairly meaningless. Defence is brilliant mind. Strikers looked good too and there's a lot of talent and potential. Until that links together tho we've got problems. Were we playing the 5-3-2? Did we see the wing backs getting forward a fair bit in support of the midfield? Or was it more defensive minded? I mean when you look at the starting 11, the midfield doesn't excite does it. Not entirely sure why considering how little we have seen of him but I suspect that will always been the case with Vincelot listed...
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jul 17, 2019 21:47:55 GMT 1
as Vincelot is the holding midfielder , i would be intrested to hear from the fans who went how did he do ?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2019 21:55:44 GMT 1
It's worth pointing out that midfield is injured 😂
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Post by Scarecrow on Jul 17, 2019 21:58:17 GMT 1
as Vincelot is the holding midfielder , i would be intrested to hear from the fans who went how did he do ? Vincelot was dreadful and second to every ball. He couldn’t pass it out either and by the end was just hoofing it long.
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Post by FloreatShrew on Jul 17, 2019 22:05:17 GMT 1
We need a midfield, until then it's all fairly meaningless. Defence is brilliant mind. Strikers looked good too and there's a lot of talent and potential. Until that links together tho we've got problems. Were we playing the 5-3-2? Did we see the wing backs getting forward a fair bit in support of the midfield? Or was it more defensive minded? I mean when you look at the starting 11, the midfield doesn't excite does it. Not entirely sure why considering how little we have seen of him but I suspect that will always been the case with Vincelot listed... We did, and they bombed forwards. But when you've no centre to work off it's all kinda meaningless.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2019 22:13:12 GMT 1
Surprised there’s so many people on here who think pre season results are relevant, couldn’t have cared less if we lost 5-0 tonight, it won’t make any difference come the start of the season whatever the result had been, it’s pre season.
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Post by LetchworthShrew on Jul 17, 2019 22:24:51 GMT 1
Surprised there’s so many people on here who think pre season results are relevant, couldn’t have cared less if we lost 5-0 tonight, it won’t make any difference come the start of the season whatever the result had been, it’s pre season. Rarely bother with pre-season .... 2 years ago 2 of us popped over to the game at Brackley, they lost, pretty dreadful game and we left unconvinced. We all know how that season turned out!!
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Post by shrewswolf on Jul 17, 2019 22:26:44 GMT 1
Surprised there’s so many people on here who think pre season results are relevant, couldn’t have cared less if we lost 5-0 tonight, it won’t make any difference come the start of the season whatever the result had been, it’s pre season. Of course it’s stupid to take pre season too seriously with plenty of examples of teams failing when the real stuff starts and others upping it, but a 5 0 loss would definitely be a worry. Just like tonight’s general lack of touch & ability was. I’m not concerned as we have practically no midfield & presumably a big no. 9 to come but seeing the likes of Beckles & RoShaun Williams confusing their own feet was not the start I was hoping to see. The Hurst pre season was the start of a set way of playing, I just hope we start to see Ricketts 3 5 2 plan being implemented more effectively over the next few friendlies.. it’s better to start a season with hope. Giles and Rowland were good. Walker was terrible. We get fitter and move on, thank god it was a fiver!
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Post by thesensationaljt on Jul 17, 2019 22:49:06 GMT 1
I've never been a fan of moosical chairs. I can still remember not winning a single friendly, then getting thrashed 6 - 0 against Preston in the fust game of the season.......now then....how did pan out....ah yes, we got promoted as champions.
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Post by wakemanender on Jul 18, 2019 7:13:54 GMT 1
In Hursts pre season we played and beat four championship clubs and looked a very good team. As the result of what I saw in that pre season and before the season started I placed my first ever bet on the town finishing the season in a play off place. I made a few hundred pounds. Im not saying pre season is always a good guide but I really did get a lot of confidence from what I saw and to convince me even further I spoke to Neil Warnock after we had beaten Cardiff when he signed a book for me and he told me how impressed he had been and it was worth having a bob or two on at least a top half finish. After a few league games I got even more confident and put a further bet on us reaching the Checkatrade trophy final. I will wait a couple more weeks but the signs are that I wont be giving the bookies any of their money back. Its very unlikely in my lifetime that I will feel confident enough to put money on the town as the result of what I see pre season.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jul 18, 2019 7:53:32 GMT 1
Appreciate its preseason but the fact is we look extremely short in midfield and more so now that we have one or two injuries. We need to have a look see to what we have and who can come in. And can only go on one or two comments so far but it doesn't fill you with too much confidence that we have the squad to cope with one or two out. I am more than happy to put my hands up and say I got it wrong but I can't help thinking that if we are starting the likes of Vincelot come August then it ain't looking good. Good to hear that the back five looks in decent nick though...
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Jul 18, 2019 9:16:06 GMT 1
My review of last night
1st Half
O'Leary (GK) - Solid, very vocal and distribution looks great. Couple of handling errors but looks a good one. Barnett (RWB) - Out of position but did well, tidy player who looks like he can fill in and offer good cover Ebanks-Landel (CB) - Looks to have great distibutinion (found Giles twice nicely). Big and strong. Pierre (CB) - Possibly the biggest brute of the 3 CBs. Won most things. Looks like a good buy. Beckles (CB) - So much better in a 3. Was classy on the ball. No flaps or worry's. Hes back. Giles (LWB) - Lovely player. Does not panic, quick gets forward and cuts in well. Stand out first half for me. Vincelot (CM) - Deeper of the three, late into challenges and not that good. Didn't lead the young lads. Walker (CM) - Poor first half. Got moaned at by players a lot. Passing was off, shy to want the ball. Rowland (CM) - Best of the three CMs. Good on ball, got a trick or two. Works very hard and runs around A LOT! Morison (ST) - Hard to tell. Not much going on up front 1st half. Won some headers. Moaned a lot. Fey (ST) - Hardly touched it as midfield got over run. Couple of nice bursts and a shot but quiet generally.
2nd Half
Oleary (GK) - Same as first half, solid. No blame on goal was close in and defense went missing. Gregory (GK) - Young keeper did well with one shot. Looks to have good kicking ability.
Love (RWB) - Defensviely was sound other than getting done for the goal! Crossing needs some work. But good on the ball. Waterfall (CB) - Has a problem, its clear town fans think hes some sort of comic figure now. Conceded after he arrived. Beckles (CB) - Again decent enough as had less to do second half as we improved. I would have him ahead of LW. Ro Williams(CB) - Complained abut how hard the pitch was. Played like he didn't want to get injured. Did his job though. Barnett (LWB) - Again showed some ability to do a job all over
Everyone else in second half seemed to move around
Whalley (ST then 10 role) - Gave us pace and direction we needed. have to find a place for him. Still on free Kicks! Walker (CM) Better in 2nd half. Had a decent shot. Had a rubbish shot. Got to grips with a few things as it went on. Rowland (CM) Again the best of the CM 3. Busy Busy Busy.... Vincelot (CM) Still didn't impress me though slightly improved as it went on. Udoh (ST) - Liked his direct running, and keeping defenders on toes. Strong and got a bit of pace. A decent find. Eisa (ST) - Late sub. Is not a striker. Missed a glarious chance when he should have squared it. Shot out of stadium! Kian Taylor (CM) - Very late sub. Had a go vs at that point a youth Newpory County Team.
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Post by SeanBroseley on Jul 18, 2019 9:29:12 GMT 1
Through his recruitment Ricketts has resolved the shortcomings that were evident from the Bristol City friendly last summer: goalkeeper and central defence.
The first half centre back trio of Beckles, Ebanks-Landell and Pierre (with Beckles operating on the right) Looked like a good unit. O'Leary didn't have much to do but looks capable.
Morison has Roy Keane psychotic possibilities - which will be needed. He looked in good shape but the ball went nowhere near him for long periods.
Of other outfield players I would mark out Giles in the first half and Udoh in the second half as clearly capable of providing much more than energy and commitment.
Whalley was also excellent second half in his typical high energy trying to make things happen.
There was very little creativity in the the team. We will rely on Whalley, Rowland and Barnett's high energy to break down play sufficiently deep in the opposition half to create chances. If that is the case then Walker will need to show the same, instead he was very slow to close down. Walker by name and Walker by nature. I'm concerned that one little error half way through the first half put him in his shell and he was chasing shadows. He was a little better in the second half, but we are not the harshest set of fans so if that happens in a low key game I am concerned. Play him against Villa so he can get this out of his system.
People are concerned about replacing Grant, but we still haven't replaced Nolan.
Some excellent further recruitment required for us to look like a team that could finish with in excess of 55 points.
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Post by Northwest Shrew on Jul 18, 2019 10:14:08 GMT 1
Appreciate its preseason but the fact is we look extremely short in midfield and more so now that we have one or two injuries. We need to have a look see to what we have and who can come in. And can only go on one or two comments so far but it doesn't fill you with too much confidence that we have the squad to cope with one or two out. I am more than happy to put my hands up and say I got it wrong but I can't help thinking that if we are starting the likes of Vincelot come August then it ain't looking good. Good to hear that the back five looks in decent nick though... So your saying we need an experienced player in the middle of the park, someone who’ll thunder into tackles, break up play and pick a pass, and someone who’ll win free kicks and use his experience in game management... wonder if there’s anyone in the youth team...?
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Jul 18, 2019 10:21:51 GMT 1
Appreciate its preseason but the fact is we look extremely short in midfield and more so now that we have one or two injuries. We need to have a look see to what we have and who can come in. And can only go on one or two comments so far but it doesn't fill you with too much confidence that we have the squad to cope with one or two out. I am more than happy to put my hands up and say I got it wrong but I can't help thinking that if we are starting the likes of Vincelot come August then it ain't looking good. Good to hear that the back five looks in decent nick though... So your saying we need an experienced player in the middle of the park, someone who’ll thunder into tackles, break up play and pick a pass, and someone who’ll win free kicks and use his experience in game management... wonder if there’s anyone in the youth team...? Watching it last night you could not see that Grant, half arsed or not, would walk into that team. Baffling if this drags on months and all the time we are waiting for three of our midfielders (Edwards, Norburn and Laurent) who are better than those who played last night to recover.
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Post by tvor on Jul 18, 2019 10:26:31 GMT 1
Some excellent further recruitment required for us to look like a team that could finish with in excess of 55 points. I agree, plenty still to do if we're to have a serious chance of troubling the top half of the table.
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Post by masshrop on Jul 18, 2019 10:58:07 GMT 1
for what it's worth williams at fault for goal looked disinterested , dont look like scoring ethan played ok along with rowland , 2nd half waterfall solid as usual , whalley & udoh lively , overall not impressed look pedestrian where it counts most
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Post by Northwest Shrew on Jul 18, 2019 11:04:25 GMT 1
Any rumours knocking around last night about grant, or any incoming signings?
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Post by martinshrew on Jul 18, 2019 11:11:12 GMT 1
Through his recruitment Ricketts has resolved the shortcomings that were evident from the Bristol City friendly last summer: goalkeeper and central defence. The first half centre back trio of Beckles, Ebanks-Landell and Pierre (with Beckles operating on the right) Looked like a good unit. O'Leary didn't have much to do but looks capable. Morison has Roy Keane psychotic possibilities - which will be needed. He looked in good shape but the ball went nowhere near him for long periods. Of other outfield players I would mark out Giles in the first half and Udoh in the second half as clearly capable of providing much more than energy and commitment. Whalley was also excellent second half in his typical high energy trying to make things happen. There was very little creativity in the the team. We will rely on Whalley, Rowland and Barnett's high energy to break down play sufficiently deep in the opposition half to create chances. If that is the case then Walker will need to show the same, instead he was very slow to close down. Walker by name and Walker by nature. I'm concerned that one little error half way through the first half put him in his shell and he was chasing shadows. He was a little better in the second half, but we are not the harshest set of fans so if that happens in a low key game I am concerned. Play him against Villa so he can get this out of his system. People are concerned about replacing Grant, but we still haven't replaced Nolan. Some excellent further recruitment required for us to look like a team that could finish with in excess of 55 points. We replaced Nolan with Docherty who is a far better player, we now need to replace Docherty which is a very tough ask.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jul 18, 2019 11:15:49 GMT 1
as Vincelot is the holding midfielder , i would be intrested to hear from the fans who went how did he do ? Vincelot was dreadful and second to every ball. He couldn’t pass it out either and by the end was just hoofing it long. thanks for that i was hoping he had improved, the few times i had seen him last year including a resrve game , he pulled out of tackles and looked out of sorts , i put it down to lack of match sharpness and recovering from an injury
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jul 18, 2019 11:24:42 GMT 1
training does not replace game time, pre season games are often not a true reflection of what a team can do in a league game, however that game will have given Ricketts some idea of what areas we still need to strengthen. the two holding midfielders Walker and Vincelot seem to have struggled, so it sounds as if both need to really up there game for Villa. this is still a virtually new team getting used to playing with each other and we had no injuries.
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Post by dooble78 on Jul 18, 2019 11:47:15 GMT 1
As long as waterfall doesn't play unless we have no choice he is a weak link in the defence. A liability
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jul 19, 2019 6:53:40 GMT 1
Appreciate its preseason but the fact is we look extremely short in midfield and more so now that we have one or two injuries. We need to have a look see to what we have and who can come in. And can only go on one or two comments so far but it doesn't fill you with too much confidence that we have the squad to cope with one or two out. I am more than happy to put my hands up and say I got it wrong but I can't help thinking that if we are starting the likes of Vincelot come August then it ain't looking good. Good to hear that the back five looks in decent nick though... So your saying we need an experienced player in the middle of the park, someone who’ll thunder into tackles, break up play and pick a pass, and someone who’ll win free kicks and use his experience in game management... wonder if there’s anyone in the youth team...? You know saying that, I really do hope that we get off to a half decent start. Because if we don't and Grant is still in the club and still training. It might well become a bit of a side show that we could really do without. If we do see that we're short in midfield its inevitable people going to start asking what's going on with Grant.
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Post by tvor on Jul 22, 2019 22:04:55 GMT 1
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