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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2019 15:24:27 GMT 1
Looks like Boris is in the driving seat . At least McVey and Leadsom have gone . He has exceeded expectations looking at the figures . Who is under pressure to drop out ? Possibly Raab. Can Hunt see off Gove to make the final two , although it may be a forlorn attempt to actually win the contest . The final say will rest with about 160000 Tory Party members , the majority of them white , middle class males living in the South / South East of the Country voting to leave the European Union .
........ and there you have it , democracy at its best . This Country looks like it’s going to hell in a handcart with Boris in charge.
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Post by barrynic on Jun 13, 2019 16:09:01 GMT 1
As a Tory part member...Boris gets my vote.
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Jun 13, 2019 16:12:20 GMT 1
Lets be honest, its going to be ****ing hilarious
It a bad way, but hilarious still
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Post by northwestman on Jun 13, 2019 16:16:40 GMT 1
As a Tory part member...Boris gets my vote. He'll get most of the votes of the Members too. Only thing to stop him is some serious revelation that hasn't yet surfaced. Taking drugs, routine adulterer, liar and fouling up that poor girl in an Iran jail from being released don't seem to count for very much.
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Post by petshrew on Jun 13, 2019 16:24:31 GMT 1
Anyone watching Years and Years. Is truth really stranger than fiction? How many clock ups must this man make before people see him for the buffoon he is
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Post by northwestman on Jun 13, 2019 16:31:03 GMT 1
Anyone watching Years and Years. Is truth really stranger than fiction? How many clock ups must this man make before people see him for the buffoon he is He has been criticized by figures on both the left and right, who accuse him of elitism, cronyism, dishonesty, laziness, and using racist and homophobic language. No idea how he gets away with it. Just read his Wiki page. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Johnson
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Post by Worthingshrew on Jun 13, 2019 16:37:11 GMT 1
The parallels between Boris and Trump are frightening. Where are any politicians of integrity?
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Post by barrynic on Jun 13, 2019 16:44:23 GMT 1
Certainly not in the Labour party
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Post by Bob Rickerton on Jun 13, 2019 17:01:40 GMT 1
Can't believe Boris Johnson called David Ruffin a Pickaninny. Would certainly tarnish my slavishly unwavering support for him.
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Post by martinshrew on Jun 13, 2019 17:02:08 GMT 1
The parallels between Boris and Trump are frightening. Where are any politicians of integrity? None on the opposition benches that's for sure.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2019 17:11:00 GMT 1
The parallels between Boris and Trump are frightening. Where are any politicians of integrity? Add Farage to that list. His latest is complaining about a joke made by Jo Brand (admittedly a bit beyond the pale) but he fails to admit that he said if Brexit didn't happen he might be forced to get his rifle out (or words to that effect). All should set up their own Teflon party.
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Post by martinshrew on Jun 13, 2019 17:18:22 GMT 1
Boris running the Tories propped up by the Brexit Party. The looks on the faces of the hard left would be priceless.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2019 18:13:45 GMT 1
Boris running the Tories propped up by the Brexit Party. The looks on the faces of the hard left would be priceless. So would the looks on the faces of the most disadvantaged in this Country. Dont forget them , even though Farage and Johnson wouldn’t give them a second look .
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Post by martinshrew on Jun 13, 2019 18:19:10 GMT 1
Boris running the Tories propped up by the Brexit Party. The looks on the faces of the hard left would be priceless. So would the looks on the faces of the most disadvantaged in this Country. Dont forget them , even though Farage and Johnson wouldn’t give them a second look . What a load of rubbish.
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Post by thesensationaljt on Jun 13, 2019 18:19:20 GMT 1
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Post by vixenshrew on Jun 13, 2019 18:20:40 GMT 1
I don't normally comment on the political threads but what a bloody shambles our political system is. Imo it's time we modernised parliament and got some normal folk in there who will do what they are supposed to do and that is represent their constituencies and the country instead of looking after themselves and their desire for power. Democracy? No way are we a bloody democracy.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2019 18:40:13 GMT 1
So would the looks on the faces of the most disadvantaged in this Country. Dont forget them , even though Farage and Johnson wouldn’t give them a second look . What a load of rubbish. [ Is it ? Oh well , I suppose it’s also rubbish that the future of this Country looks like it will rest in the hands of an absolute clown . All because of a process which will put him in charge thanks to a “representative” 160000 or thereabouts. Now , that’s what I call a load of rubbish .
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Post by venceremos on Jun 13, 2019 18:56:47 GMT 1
Certainly not in the Labour party That's all that matters then? No wonder this country's in such a godawful mess.
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Post by tvor on Jun 13, 2019 19:02:16 GMT 1
Lets be honest, its going to be ****ing hilarious It a bad way, but hilarious still There will be nothing hilarious about seeing ordinary people suffer even more whilst the rich and elite in society get richer still off the back of Johnson's proposed tax breaks. Personally I think the prospect is sickening.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2019 19:04:59 GMT 1
It would seem only fair to point out that a number of these places do have Tory representation in parliament.
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Post by martinshrew on Jun 13, 2019 19:08:49 GMT 1
Certainly not in the Labour party That's all that matters then? No wonder this country's in such a godawful mess. If there was a credible opposition the country would be in a better place.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2019 19:10:05 GMT 1
So the 2 female candidates have already gone.
I'm surprised that Andrea Leadsom didn't go through to the next round but clearly her parliamentary colleagues felt differently.
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Post by venceremos on Jun 13, 2019 19:19:37 GMT 1
Boris running the Tories propped up by the Brexit Party. The looks on the faces of the hard left would be priceless. That's not how it will unravel. If Johnson wins (not a done deal yet) there's no certainty as to what he'll do. But what we do know is that he lies and he acts for himself. Given that, are you really taking what he says now at face value? That seems somewhat naïve, at best. Only today, it's been revealed that, shortly after the referendum, Johnson (Foreign Secretary at the time) told EU ambassadors that he believed in freedom of movement. Shortly afterwards, at a minuted breakfast meeting, he said that he opposed FoM. When the story was revealed, he said the claim that he was in favour of FoM was lies. The four ambassadors who separately said that he'd told them he favoured FoM obviously couldn't go public. The press simply referred to the minutes of an entirely separate meeting and said there was nothing in the story. So who knows what Johnson really believes? As someone said, the perfect referendum outcome for him would have been to lose by one vote. Look again at his face when leave won. It's not the face of a hard line brexiteer. Whoever wins, if we leave the EU on 31 October, the brexit party is over and Farage is done. The idea that the brexit party would in any way be propping up the government (hard to do when you have no MPs) is nonsense. We'd then be in new territory. Would we get the sort-of socially liberal Johnson who was Mayor of London, or the unconvincing brexiteer? Who knows. His Foreign Office colleagues say he was incompetent and it doesn't take much digging into his personal life to make a sensible person question his fitness for any influential office, never mind that of PM. But then there's every chance that Johnson would screw up anyway. The tragedy would be him doing that at our expense.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2019 19:24:42 GMT 1
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Post by tvor on Jun 13, 2019 19:34:00 GMT 1
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Post by cheggersdrinkspop on Jun 13, 2019 19:48:36 GMT 1
We really have as a country hit a political and cultural low point when it comes to an incompetent buffoon who made his name on TV light entertainment shows, and courting controversy with his behaviour and comments, being potentially the future Prime Minister. Anyone that says Trump is a joke should look closer to home. Move over Donald you may have been Trumped.
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Post by pepi64 on Jun 13, 2019 20:32:49 GMT 1
He gets my vote. I know he's a bit out there, but i think the country needs something abit different at this very tender time. I believe he will bring the country together in his own charming way and that will be his biggest weapon in reuniting the country going forward. Something im afraid Mr corbyn couldnt and hasn't got.
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Post by Mortgagehound on Jun 13, 2019 20:35:12 GMT 1
Boris versus Steptoe at the despatch box will be like a live version of ‘have we got news’ each week
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Post by venceremos on Jun 13, 2019 20:55:40 GMT 1
He gets my vote. I know he's a bit out there, but i think the country needs something abit different at this very tender time. I believe he will bring the country together in his own charming way and that will be his biggest weapon in reuniting the country going forward. Something im afraid Mr corbyn couldnt and hasn't got. He's not "out there", that's just the mask he wears to disguise the nastiness. He's far too divisive a character to unite the country. As for his supposed charm, Evelyn Waugh captured it well in Brideshead Revisited: "Charm is the great English blight. It does not exist outside these damp islands. It spots and kills anything it touches."
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Post by pepi64 on Jun 13, 2019 21:06:26 GMT 1
He's not "out there", that's just the mask he wears to disguise the nastiness.
He's far too divisive a character to unite the country.
As for his supposed charm, Evelyn Waugh captured it well in Brideshead Revisited: "Charm is the great English blight. It does not exist outside these damp islands. It spots and kills anything it touches."
All ill say in response is that i respect your opinion. Time will tell if either myself or you are right in our opinions. Ill put my arms up if im wrong. Im just going with my gut feeling which is normally not far off the mark. Just out of interest who would you like to become PM if you don't mind me asking? Regards pepi
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