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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2019 20:19:50 GMT 1
At least League 1 ? Are you serious . Imagine Waterfall in the box attacking a cross against England’s defenders and goalkeeper. It’s the sheer physicality of the men , their strength and power which would be hard for the women to contest . I like watching women’s football , without a doubt it’s extremely skillful at the top level . But no way would the Lionessess be able to compete at League 1 level . It's probably going to be a few years before it's put the test as women's football is very much in its infancy, but yes I am serious that they could. I do agree that lack of height and strength is a weakness but as these women teams evolve their tactics may win the day. Obviously severn heaven this is my opinion and you have yours. I look forward to the day it comes to the test. Yes, so do I . It may be a fair few years if at all but certainly the crowds would increase if it happened . I think what is more likely to happen is that the women’s game will continue to develop and improve. Crowds will increase and may even have an effect on no’s. attending what I shall call “the men’s game “ for won’t of a better discription. That would be good . I just hope that female players don’t copy some of the antics of their male counterparts .
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Post by haughmond on Jun 9, 2019 20:23:57 GMT 1
I know I'll get shot down for this but I've not bought into womens football yet its all a bit paralympics to me still The one thing above all else that lets the women’s game down is that the keepers are really poor, I mean s**te. I know they may make the rare good save, but usually it’s like watching some- one in a sumo suit trying to catch a balloon. Apart from that , in my book, Womens Football or re- runs of Old Mother Riley films. Toughie.
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Post by mattmw on Jun 9, 2019 20:31:13 GMT 1
Thought England looked sluggish against Scotland although the win will do them good. Scotland have come on leaps and bounds in the last two seasons though quite possibly as many of their players now play full time in the English league
Nikita Parris looks a star in the making - great nutmeg in today’s game and looks a ball of energy on and off the pitch
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Post by venceremos on Jun 9, 2019 21:08:40 GMT 1
I know I'll get shot down for this but I've not bought into womens football yet its all a bit paralympics to me still Nice to hear from Bobby Riggs after so long.
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Post by wickedwilleh on Jun 9, 2019 22:14:19 GMT 1
One thing the men's game can learn from the women's game is accepting the referee's decision. Great to see them just get on with it and not surround the officials.
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Post by neilsalop on Jun 9, 2019 22:43:30 GMT 1
Just watched the England Scotland game and I agree with what others have said about skill levels, but the strength and power are not in the same league as the mens game. The decision making too many times would have left me pulling, what little hair I have left out, if it occured down the Meddah. Doesn't stop it being entertaining though.
I thought the officiating was of decent standard for the most part too, apart from at least 3 times the ball from a goal kick never left the area before being picked up by an outfield player. This happened right in front of the assistant referee and I found it annoying.
Under recent law changes the ball does not need to leave the area before being played by another player.
Read more: blueandamber.proboards.com/thread/99262/law-changes-season-2019-20#ixzz5qNTnlDqVI didn't realise that they had changed so many rules. I'll consider myself educated.
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Post by Pilch on Jun 9, 2019 23:48:26 GMT 1
I know I'll get shot down for this but I've not bought into womens football yet its all a bit paralympics to me still Nice to hear from Bobby Riggs after so long. I'm not into rugby either, or a long list of other sports that men play im not sexist like you make out if I dont enjoy watching something I won't watch it, no matter what they have between their legs almost turned off the England mens game earlier, real bore show
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Post by Pilch on Jun 10, 2019 12:13:30 GMT 1
I did actually have the game on , on my iPad , listened to it but never watched a seconds of it , it sounds the same as mens football on the radio Perfect solution ;-)
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Post by venceremos on Jun 10, 2019 13:20:42 GMT 1
Nice to hear from Bobby Riggs after so long. I'm not into rugby either, or a long list of other sports that men play im not sexist like you make out if I dont enjoy watching something I won't watch it, no matter what they have between their legs almost turned off the England mens game earlier, real bore show Women also play rugby.
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Post by South Stand Salopian on Jun 10, 2019 13:31:43 GMT 1
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Post by Pilch on Jun 10, 2019 13:35:28 GMT 1
I'm not into rugby either, or a long list of other sports that men play im not sexist like you make out if I dont enjoy watching something I won't watch it, no matter what they have between their legs almost turned off the England mens game earlier, real bore show Women also play rugby. Jeez they will be doing the pole vault next
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jun 10, 2019 19:03:47 GMT 1
a disapointing start to Japans world cup, whilst they fielded a number of teenagers and there manager has said they are focusing on the olympics and wont to give there younger players more experince, a well organised Argentina will be thriled with there first pount in a world cup and holding the 2011 winnees to a goal less draw. Argentina had more physicality with some crunching tackles and a height advantage, there defence was very organised and there keeper only had two saves to make.Banini was the outstanding quality player a real live wire with fast feet and a tenacious battling atitude, she was constatnly looking to make somthing happen.
whilst Japan had the majority of possession and pressed high up the park, htey won a lot of the 50/50 balls and would close down very quickly. in the last third they failed to creat chances, they hardly got behind the Aregentina defence and played in front of the defence, they often overcomplicated things and many moves broke down.
England will need to come up with the tactics to silence Banini and break down the Argentian defence. as for Scotland a draw was the best result.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jun 10, 2019 22:01:12 GMT 1
Canada 1-0 Cameroon
whilst Canada dominated this game 69% possession first half 64% second half and produced some neat football,with a solid defence that was rarely troubled . they lacked that cutting edge in the last third 18 shots with only 3 on target. a contrast in tactics with Cameroon playing the lone forward and 5 at the back and Canada playing from the back and a combination of diaganol passess with off hte ball movment to try and open up the defence and using the width of the pitch to get behind the defenders, Canda failed to capatalize on there numerous corners.
Cameroon main threat came from there no 7 who had pace and physicality but was often let down by her first touch.Canada deserverd the win.
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Post by 18stfc86 on Jun 11, 2019 0:20:25 GMT 1
I enjoyed the first match. What level do you think France women's team are at? If they were in a men's a UK league side where would they be? I was thinking that last night watching the match. I thought they scored a couple of cracking goals, notably second and fourth and they were good at set pieces, so I would say at least league 1. I don't think they would have the stamina for championship, which is a tough league. A million miles away from being League 1 standard. I've only watched a few games and have already become bored. The quality is dreadful, especially the keepers! I read that Dallas U15 boys beat the womens US national team 5-2 back in 2017. Dallas U15's. Womens football is county league standard let's face it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2019 6:31:17 GMT 1
Women were banned from playing professional football by the FA until 1971. It was worse in other countries, but better in some.
The infrastructure, funding, coaching, professional clubs is relatively new and will take time to develop.
To compare the standard of football with men does a disservice to the teams involved, when thinking about the problems women's football has had to overcome.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jun 11, 2019 10:37:58 GMT 1
Women were banned from playing professional football by the FA until 1971. It was worse in other countries, but better in some. The infrastructure, funding, coaching, professional clubs is relatively new and will take time to develop. To compare the standard of football with men does a disservice to the teams involved, when thinking about the problems women's football has had to overcome. England have only recently had a full time professional league, many players are amautures who have to juggle a job whilst asking employers for time off to compete in the world cup !
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on Jun 11, 2019 14:40:47 GMT 1
I have to stop myself being unfairly critical of the women's game, I see inaccurate passes and missed tackles and remind myself that there are plenty of these in the men's game.
I think the difference is that football is very tribal and we have a deep emotional connection to our team which, in most cases, goes back generations.
We don't have the same connection with women's football and consequently find it less easy to forgive imperfections.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jun 11, 2019 15:08:17 GMT 1
I have to stop myself being unfairly critical of the women's game, I see inaccurate passes and missed tackles and remind myself that there are plenty of these in the men's game. I think the difference is that football is very tribal and we have a deep emotional connection to our team which, in most cases, goes back generations. i dont have blinkers about some of the quality but as you say; "I see inaccurate passes and missed tackles and remind myself that there are plenty of these in the men's game." I think the difference is that football is very tribal and we have a deep emotional connection to our team which, in most cases, goes back generations. that is a good point and pherhaps in time this will change as more father go to see there daughters playing football. one of the many things i like about womens football is after a tackle most just get up and get on with it and you see a lot less of the writhing around pretending to be injured, as for the national team they are much more aproachable than the mens team, i went with a friend and his young daughter was thriled at having selfies with the England players.
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Post by Pilch on Jun 11, 2019 15:45:24 GMT 1
more along the lines of bobby Riggs this, and before anyone says anything, I once got beat by a diving header from penny smith at the gay meadow
I'd be more interested in womens football if I knew what level they are at in comparison to men
I'd love to see a few games and then see if it improves or not
I wonder what level the current England side would beat
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jun 11, 2019 15:58:52 GMT 1
football can be cruel New Zealand held the netherlands to nearly 92 minutes, with the netherland the european champions and ranked 8th and a team full of top professionals against a team of semi professionals , university players and professionals, new Zealand had four really good chance three forced very god saves and the other one hit the underside of the bar. new zealand ran out of steam and the last fifteen minutes the netherlands were camped in the last third and for lengthy periods it was attack versus defence. with new zealand attacking on the break to put this in context the netherlands beat England 3-0 in the european championship and run rings around England.
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Post by leonidrogozov on Jun 11, 2019 18:21:13 GMT 1
Find the regular comparison with the men's game frustrating and slightly baffling. I can't say I've heard many people at all talk about how good female cricketers would be against men, or rugby players, or athletes (apart from Caster Semenya, but that is a whole can of worms and a pretty unique situation). Why not just judge them on their own terms - how they compare to each other ie in a World Cup? If you don't find the football worth watching, that's fair enough. I just don't think trying to suggest how they would fare in men's football is at all helpful, needed, or justified.
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Post by Worthingshrew on Jun 11, 2019 18:57:54 GMT 1
Find the regular comparison with the men's game frustrating and slightly baffling. I can't say I've heard many people at all talk about how good female cricketers would be against men, or rugby players, or athletes (apart from Caster Semenya, but that is a whole can of worms and a pretty unique situation). Why not just judge them on their own terms - how they compare to each other ie in a World Cup? If you don't find the football worth watching, that's fair enough. I just don't think trying to suggest how they would fare in men's football is at all helpful, needed, or justified. I agree with you. Trying to compare the men’s game with women’s is like chalk and cheese. Just so completely different manly due to the physicality and speed of men’s game. Same with cricket and rugby.
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Post by South Stand Salopian on Jun 11, 2019 21:17:46 GMT 1
USA 7-0 Thailand, 56 mins
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Post by LetchworthShrew on Jun 11, 2019 21:21:37 GMT 1
USA 7-0 Thailand, 56 mins This could be carnage. USA just brought on Carli Lloyd who has 110 goals for USA and in 4th WC!!
The Thai's lasted until 73 mins - 8-0, 79 mins 9-0, 80 mins 10-0
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Post by South Stand Salopian on Jun 11, 2019 21:40:17 GMT 1
Double figures now, 82 mins
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Post by LetchworthShrew on Jun 11, 2019 21:43:26 GMT 1
84 mins 11-0
equals Germany's 11-0 win over Argentina 12 years ago (WC holders opening game)
5th goal for Morgan, 12-0 87mins
13-0 Carli Lloyd's 111th USA goal, 90+2 mins
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Post by South Stand Salopian on Jun 11, 2019 21:49:58 GMT 1
13-0!
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Post by LetchworthShrew on Jun 11, 2019 21:53:08 GMT 1
Turned up heat 2nd half was only 3-0 at HT although USA could have had a couple pens!
Morgan (12', 53', 74', 81', 87'), Lavelle (20', 56'), Horan (32'), Mewis (50', 54'), Rapinoe (79'), Pugh (84'), Lloyd (90'+2)
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jun 11, 2019 22:12:48 GMT 1
you can only play the team in front of you as 34th ranked Thailand were taken apart by the defending champions. who create a new record in the worst defeat in the world cup . whilst Thailand gave the us too much room and the defence and goalkeeper were poor, the US scored virtualy every variation of a goal from all over the pitch. despite the poor opposition the skill and tenacity showed by the US was a demonstration of total football. error prone Chile must be wondering how will they approach this team, whilst the more physicall Sweden will be a better bench mark. with comenators suggesting they might field there B team against Sweden to avoid France in the quarter finals !
you must have a heart of stone not to feel for the poor thailand keeper, who will probably have some nightmares after that game.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jun 11, 2019 22:34:58 GMT 1
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