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Post by tvor on May 11, 2019 16:54:26 GMT 1
With just added time left to play at Wembey they lead AFC Fylde 3-0 so look set to be in League 2 next season. The game is noteworthy for the attendance of only 8049 (described as generous) with vast areas of the stadium empty, embarrassing. It will be interesting to see how Salford manage next season when they will be subject to Financial Fair Play rules. The media fawning over the class of '92, and the fairy tale spin they're trying to put on this promotion, will ramp up to insufferable levels next season.
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Post by SouthStandShrew on May 11, 2019 16:56:56 GMT 1
Souless.
At least Wrexham have some history.
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Post by northwestman on May 11, 2019 16:57:59 GMT 1
oh dear.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on May 11, 2019 16:58:31 GMT 1
Give them their moment of fame, can’t see them doing much long term in the FL. But I thought the same should Fylde have won it as well. Neither team would bring anything to the League imo
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Post by northwestman on May 11, 2019 17:16:54 GMT 1
Give them their moment of fame, can’t see them doing much long term in the FL. But I thought the same should Fylde have won it as well. Neither team would bring anything to the League imo <iframe width="18.720000000000027" height="3.6000000000000085" style="position: absolute; width: 18.720000000000027px; height: 3.6000000000000085px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_57266820" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="18.720000000000027" height="3.6000000000000085" style="position: absolute; width: 18.72px; height: 3.6px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 881px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_67414255" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="18.720000000000027" height="3.6000000000000085" style="position: absolute; width: 18.72px; height: 3.6px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 120px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_75065827" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="18.720000000000027" height="3.6000000000000085" style="position: absolute; width: 18.72px; height: 3.6px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 881px; top: 120px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_50584255" scrolling="no"></iframe> You could say the same about FGR. But so long as the bankrolling continues and they are paying the likes of Adam Rooney £4k a week, Salford may well progress further. FGR's average home attendance last season was 2,701. And they are in the playoffs.
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Post by tvor on May 11, 2019 17:19:07 GMT 1
In the EFL Football Fair Play applies, it doesn't in the National League, Salford will need to find a way around that. I can see them competing in League 2 but it's difficult to see them going further than League 1 unless they start to generate much more turnover.
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Post by callum on May 11, 2019 18:47:30 GMT 1
In the EFL Football Fair Play applies, it doesn't in the National League, Salford will need to find a way around that. I can see them competing in League 2 but it's difficult to see them going further than League 1 unless they start to generate much more turnover. A car park would be a start!
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Post by Mortgagehound on May 11, 2019 19:05:21 GMT 1
Fleetwood in disguise......
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Post by Pilch on May 11, 2019 19:15:47 GMT 1
not sure why we are picking on a few local ex footballers doing things the right way ( well I am but....why )
they move into a run down local football club, improve the side just enough each season to keep moving up improve the ground, attract more support
isn't that what Roland did for the town, or tries to do at least ?
they haven't overly rushed into anything, they have scr@ped through several times
telford tried rushing things and crashed
tomorrow we could have a side winning the premier , full of millionaires run by foreign billionaires who have no footballing background whatsoever
and no one will start a thread about it, well they will one way or another and it won't be about money either way
anyway, lets hope mansfield dont come up, they pay someone £5K a week MKD came up, we all know what happened there or maybe Newport might come up, they had a great foreign owner in the 80s, after following in towns 79 footsteps by winning div 3 the following season they even made the Uefa cup quarter finals but a few seasons later went out of existence salford come up with orient who have not had a great time with owners over the years themselves lets concentrate on our own club instead of being jealous or criticising another club
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Post by Pilch on May 11, 2019 19:23:51 GMT 1
ps
the real annoying thing about the game was the camera switching to the balcony after every attack, so annoying, bit like watching Wimbledon (tennis)
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Post by northwestman on May 11, 2019 19:35:11 GMT 1
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Post by NDG on May 11, 2019 19:40:19 GMT 1
Really can see them doing really well in league 2. They will have to budget better than the freeness they've had in none league but the club will still be a force, thing with Salford is the higher they are the more fans will turn up as it's such a big catchment area.
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Post by northwestman on May 11, 2019 19:41:18 GMT 1
But yes, in 2018 Mansfield players had the 3rd highest weekly pay in League 2.
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Post by Pilch on May 11, 2019 19:50:08 GMT 1
I meant the welsh cup sorry and a promotion double they followed in our footsteps doing the same, the first game was live on tv but I couldn't get it here, we lost 2-1, all set up for an exciting 2nd leg but they hammered us 3-0 I think Im going from memory and not a book, website or dictionary
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Post by northwestman on May 11, 2019 20:18:59 GMT 1
I meant the welsh cup sorry they followed in our footsteps , the first game was live on tv but I couldn't get it here, we lost 2-1, all set up for an exciting 2nd leg but they hammered us 3-0 I think Im going from memory and not a book, website or dictionary So was I, and I immediately knew that Newport had not got promoted from Division 3 in 1980. Your memory is spot on re the score in the Welsh Cup. That allowed them to progress into the European Cup Winners Cup, where they did indeed reach the Quarter Finals where they lost to an East German side.
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Post by tvor on May 11, 2019 20:37:20 GMT 1
Salford City are, for a club at that level, already accumulating a lot of debt. Yes, that pales into insignificance compared to the wealth of their owners but we all know what happens should the owners decide they've had enough, get bored with their 'project' etc. They've stuck with it so far as they've had a lot of success in a short space of time. Whether they continue to stick with it when success gets harder to achieve in the world of Financial Fair Play we shall see.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2019 20:55:01 GMT 1
I meant the welsh cup sorry and a promotion double they followed in our footsteps doing the same, the first game was live on tv but I couldn't get it here, we lost 2-1, all set up for an exciting 2nd leg but they hammered us 3-0 I think Im going from memory and not a book, website or dictionary They beat us 3-0 in the second leg and thoroughly deserved it. A young John Aldridge and Nigel Vaughan were playing for Newport.
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Post by Chief Inspector Swan on May 11, 2019 21:08:33 GMT 1
Give them their moment of fame, can’t see them doing much long term in the FL. But I thought the same should Fylde have won it as well. Neither team would bring anything to the League imo <iframe width="18.720000000000027" height="3.6000000000000085" style="position: absolute; width: 18.720000000000027px; height: 3.6000000000000085px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_57266820" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="18.720000000000027" height="3.6000000000000085" style="position: absolute; width: 18.72px; height: 3.6px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 881px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_67414255" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="18.720000000000027" height="3.6000000000000085" style="position: absolute; width: 18.72px; height: 3.6px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 120px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_75065827" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="18.720000000000027" height="3.6000000000000085" style="position: absolute; width: 18.72px; height: 3.6px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 881px; top: 120px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_50584255" scrolling="no"></iframe> You could say the same about FGR. well yeah, you could. And it would be accurate, it’s vile that they, Salford, Crawley and Fleetwood are in the the Football League. Yet more dangerous territory from you.
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Post by venceremos on May 11, 2019 22:08:14 GMT 1
Souless. At least Wrexham have some history. Salford were founded in 1940. History exists in non-league too. They’re not Milton Keynes.
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Post by haughmond on May 11, 2019 22:09:48 GMT 1
So some of us put ourselves up as the arbitrator’s of who should or should not be in the Football League. Pomposity knows no bounds. Based on what? that they have millionaire backers and therefore have an unfair advantage. At the same time we call for our Chairman to let go of the reins of our club and let others, wealthier candidates step forward and provide us with promotion to the Championship, oh and by the way cough up a few million to fill the corners in.
And all the time conveniently forgetting that the Premiership is now a virtual closed shop, apart from a small change every season , which usually reverts back to the status quo due to parachute payments to those who get relegated.
In football the clubs who taste success more than others are, surprisingly those with the most money, usually provided by the wealthy owners that pay outlandish salaries.
But, a tuppeny bit lower league football club with ambitions, and those who back them, are.frowned upon, virtually disrespected , for having the audacity to dream.
flipin grow up.
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Post by stfcfan87 on May 11, 2019 22:28:29 GMT 1
PriceOfFootball @kieranmaguire 5h5 hours ago More The ‘Class of 92’ owned Salford City promoted to the EFL for the first time. Does this mean football’s romance is still alive, or could it be that a £2.4 million loan from a Singapore investor & losses of £32,000 a week in the 6th tier had more to do with it?
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Post by venceremos on May 11, 2019 22:41:19 GMT 1
PriceOfFootball @kieranmaguire 5h5 hours ago More The ‘Class of 92’ owned Salford City promoted to the EFL for the first time. Does this mean football’s romance is still alive, or could it be that a £2.4 million loan from a Singapore investor & losses of £32,000 a week in the 6th tier had more to do with it? That might be a valid criticism if no other club had ever been promoted whilst losing money and being in debt. But we know that’s not remotely the case, even this season (hello Bury!). How are Orient’s finances, or Lincoln’s, or Barnsley’s, or Sheffield United’s? I don’t know, just wondering why nobody asks when they’re all over Salford’s.
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Post by Pilch on May 12, 2019 0:03:27 GMT 1
PriceOfFootball @kieranmaguire 5h5 hours ago More The ‘Class of 92’ owned Salford City promoted to the EFL for the first time. Does this mean football’s romance is still alive, or could it be that a £2.4 million loan from a Singapore investor & losses of £32,000 a week in the 6th tier had more to do with it? That might be a valid criticism if no other club had ever been promoted whilst losing money and being in debt. But we know that’s not remotely the case, even this season (hello Bury!). How are Orient’s finances, or Lincoln’s, or Barnsley’s, or Sheffield United’s? I don’t know, just wondering why nobody asks when they’re all over Salford’s. I think its because nobody likes winners, especially if they play or have played for united I looked back on here to when news first broke, hardly anyone commented at all , no one had any problem with it and some thought it would be good for the game, I didnt say anything you don't need a lot of money these days to get into the league, it didnt take Wimbledon long starting from scratch, and they were only a smallish side even before MKD I remember us playing FGR back in the conference days their old ground was not a lot more than where haughmond currently play at sundorne and we were very lucky to get a draw that lol
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on May 12, 2019 8:04:48 GMT 1
I think Bournemouth have got away with being bankrolled and losing millions while still maintaining their plucky small club image.
The problem for Salford is that they have been bankrolled way beyond their natural resources and therefore their fanbase and income will take a while to catch up, if it ever does.
Plenty of clubs are losing millions being rubbish - Bolton and Sunderland for example. At least Salford have got a result for the investment.
That said investment at that level does completely screw up the financial playing field in a division for other clubs. You could argue it encourages speculative investment from clubs who really can't afford it just to keep up. Which is why championship teams are losing so much money.
But what they have done with Salford is what WInkleman should have done with MK City. I have always said if they worked their way up I would not have a problem with them, so now Salford have I can't have my cake and eat it.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2019 8:42:47 GMT 1
So just to be clear, if Joe Hart came in with several investors and got us into the Championship/Premier League on gates of 6k then that would be ok because we are a 'proper club'?
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Post by ssshrew on May 12, 2019 8:44:46 GMT 1
Absolutely Dave. If MKD had not been allowed to do what they did by the footballing authorities no one would have had a problem with them.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2019 10:06:13 GMT 1
Perhaps we should wind back the clocks to the 70s when promotion to the football league was not automatic 😉
If you finished bottom of the FL you could apply for re election. Fortunately things have moved on.
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Post by scooter on May 12, 2019 10:11:57 GMT 1
I meant the welsh cup sorry and a promotion double they followed in our footsteps doing the same, the first game was live on tv but I couldn't get it here, we lost 2-1, all set up for an exciting 2nd leg but they hammered us 3-0 I think Im going from memory and not a book, website or dictionary They beat us 3-0 in the second leg and thoroughly deserved it. A young John Aldridge and Nigel Vaughan were playing for Newport. That first leg was my only visit to Somerton Park Newport one of only a few teams I have Town play away to on more than 2 grounds, not counting Wembley
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Post by scooter on May 12, 2019 10:14:52 GMT 1
Perhaps we should wind back the clocks to the 70s when promotion to the football league was not automatic 😉 If you finished bottom of the FL you could apply for re election. Fortunately things have moved on. I saw a Facebook post saying that yesterday’s game was a good advert for re-election 😮 But seriously, there isn’t a fairer way. They make their way up the pyramid and get into the league. Not a great away trip though
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Post by Pilch on May 12, 2019 11:40:53 GMT 1
I think Bournemouth have got away with being bankrolled and losing millions while still maintaining their plucky small club image. The problem for Salford is that they have been bankrolled way beyond their natural resources and therefore their fanbase and income will take a while to catch up, if it ever does. Plenty of clubs are losing millions being rubbish - Bolton and Sunderland for example. At least Salford have got a result for the investment. That said investment at that level does completely screw up the financial playing field in a division for other clubs. You could argue it encourages speculative investment from clubs who really can't afford it just to keep up. Which is why championship teams are losing so much money. But what they have done with Salford is what WInkleman should have done with MK City. I have always said if they worked their way up I would not have a problem with them, so now Salford have I can't have my cake and eat it. what needs highlighting is during Salfords rise, some seasons only 1 side would gain promotion from the league they were in, this season just 2 went up better than it used to be but still not what it should be can you imagine if that was the case in the top 4 divisions and what the spending would be from some clubs ? would town ever get a chance of being promoted again ? I don't think so especially if there is a side in the division in a position to outspend yes it happens now to some scale but there is your problem for me the only league that has it right is league 2 and only at one end where 4 teams go up we all know from last season that if that were the case in a same sized division league 1 town would have gone up but if we look at the conference, town finished 17 point behind Hereford and they didn't go up, that isn't right really worse than that, wrexham almost got 100 points one season and still didn't go up, funny or not something is wrong
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