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Post by venceremos on May 1, 2019 18:47:52 GMT 1
Gavin Williamson sacked. Who's he, you might ask? The Defence Secretary, that's who. The Defence Secretary who denies being the source of the intelligence leak regarding Huawei. The Defence Secretary who's responsible for the nation's security but the PM says she has "compelling evidence" that he was the source of the leak. What a sorry, sorry, deceitful, untrustworthy bunch we have "leading" us. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48126974
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2019 18:55:17 GMT 1
Hang on. Isn't Corbyn the threat to national security?
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Post by venceremos on May 1, 2019 19:05:33 GMT 1
Hang on. Isn't Corbyn the threat to national security? He was but we're strong and stable now. Chaos avoided ....
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Post by northwestman on May 1, 2019 19:24:30 GMT 1
Williamson has plenty of form, from obfuscating about his relationship and infidelity with a junior employee when working as a fireplace salesman to leaking information about Andrea Leadsom, which resulted in Fallon resigning and Williamson being given his job as Defence Secretary.
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Post by ssshrew on May 1, 2019 19:35:29 GMT 1
God what a bunch of politicians we have. Now there is rotten to the core!
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2019 19:41:47 GMT 1
God what a bunch of politicians we have. Now there is rotten to the core! As a tory through and through.... i will certainly be looking at parties in the next election to vote for... however you can immediately discount Labour, Liberals and Convicts
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2019 19:45:23 GMT 1
God what a bunch of politicians we have. Now there is rotten to the core! As a tory through and through.... i will certainly be looking at parties in the next election to vote for... however you can immediately discount Labour, Liberals and Convicts www.greenparty.org.uk/political-programme.html
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Post by percy on May 1, 2019 20:34:34 GMT 1
I've been a Labour member for the last 40 years - if Corbyn helps May get her deal through without a confirmatory referendum then the Greens will be getting my vote until we get a leader who represents the party.
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Post by shrewsace on May 1, 2019 21:25:33 GMT 1
Just when he was thinking things over...
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2019 21:45:55 GMT 1
Thinking about it, it must be embarrassing getting kicked out of a government Grayling is still in.
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on May 1, 2019 22:14:42 GMT 1
It’s the stupidity of these people that depresses me.
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Post by Pilch on May 2, 2019 1:59:36 GMT 1
oh no
gav is gone
anyone know what I can take for indigestion ?
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Post by stuttgartershrew on May 2, 2019 7:22:40 GMT 1
Not had that much time to keep up with things at the moment but could this be Williamson leaking the information because as defense secretary he believes handing over such work to Huawei would pose a risk? I think I'll hang on having a dig at Williamson, he might well be doing this in order to bring this to everyone's attention. What with Huawei being under the spotlight as they are. Whoever leaked it I'm happy they did so as you would think it does have some risk, good that someone has exposed the government for making the decision to go with them. What a shambles they are...
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Post by block18shrew on May 2, 2019 7:34:54 GMT 1
Don’t believe all you read.
There’s a reason there hasn’t been a criminal investigation instigated.
I’ve known Gavin Williamson personally all my life ever since he was a councillor in my home town of Scarborough and I served with his younger brother in the RAF.
It’s a stitch up. I hope he gets exonerated and May and her cronies in the cabinet get exposed for being the lying, desperate, hypocritical individuals they are. He has been made a scapegoat for May’s Brexit failings and his deep political disagreements with Mark Sedwill who instigated this inquiry.
It is clear that May continues to surround herself with more and more pro Brexit politicians as she prepares to present her fudged common market deal concocted with Labour to the Commons in an attempt to settle Brexit and seal her legacy in British political history at whatever cost.
The sooner her and her aides are put out to pasture the better.
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Post by ssshrew on May 2, 2019 8:11:31 GMT 1
Trouble is that whatever happened we are a mess. If it’s true, we are mess. If it isn’t the way it has been handled means it’s still a mess.
Then we have MPs lying about speeding. It’s awful.
They say we get the politicians we deserve well heaven knows what we’ve all done to deserve this lot - apart from vote for them I guess!!
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Post by northwestman on May 2, 2019 8:29:17 GMT 1
Trouble is that whatever happened we are a mess. If it’s true, we are mess. If it isn’t the way it has been handled means it’s still a mess. Then we have MPs lying about speeding. It’s awful. They say we get the politicians we deserve well heaven knows what we’ve all done to deserve this lot - apart from vote for them I guess!! At least the electorate of Peterborough have now removed Ms Onasanya from representing them. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-48123355
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on May 2, 2019 8:36:50 GMT 1
Not had that much time to keep up with things at the moment but could this be Williamson leaking the information because as defense secretary he believes handing over such work to Huawei would pose a risk? I think I'll hang on having a dig at Williamson, he might well be doing this in order to bring this to everyone's attention. What with Huawei being under the spotlight as they are. Whoever leaked it I'm happy they did so as you would think it does have some risk, good that someone has exposed the government for making the decision to go with them. What a shambles they are... It’s not Huawei doing the work that’s the point, it’s that this is a top secret committee and nothing that happens there should be divulged. A leaker is a threat to national security and not to be trusted. A principled politician with concerns would resign his/her post and openly campaign on the matter.
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Post by northwestman on May 2, 2019 8:37:48 GMT 1
Don’t believe all you read. There’s a reason there hasn’t been a criminal investigation instigated. I’ve known Gavin Williamson personally all my life ever since he was a councillor in my home town of Scarborough and I served with his younger brother in the RAF. It’s a stitch up. I hope he gets exonerated and May and her cronies in the cabinet get exposed for being the lying, desperate, hypocritical individuals they are. He has been made a scapegoat for May’s Brexit failings and his deep political disagreements with Mark Sedwill who instigated this inquiry. It is clear that May continues to surround herself with more and more pro Brexit politicians as she prepares to present her fudged common market deal concocted with Labour to the Commons in an attempt to settle Brexit and seal her legacy in British political history at whatever cost. The sooner her and her aides are put out to pasture the better. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48128188www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6981725/Defence-Secretary-Gavin-Williamson-SACKED-Theresa-May.html
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Post by northwestman on May 2, 2019 8:49:06 GMT 1
"Making no attempt to hide his fury, he said: 'I pointed out that I had saved her a couple of times, kept her as PM,' adding that it was 'a shame she didn't recognise the fact'".
Methinks that can be interpreted as a threat as to possible future revelations. Certainly sounds somewhat egotistical.
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Post by northwestman on May 2, 2019 8:58:08 GMT 1
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Post by northwestman on May 2, 2019 9:42:15 GMT 1
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Post by rokerite on May 2, 2019 10:39:20 GMT 1
God what a bunch of politicians we have. Now there is rotten to the core! As a tory through and through.... i will certainly be looking at parties in the next election to vote for... however you can immediately discount Labour, Liberals and Convicts I'm the same though voting here makes no difference, Labour always get in. Apart from the sheer incompetence and betrayal of their voters this lot are conservative in name only.
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Post by northwestman on May 2, 2019 10:42:33 GMT 1
I like this comment:-
'To think we laughed at "Yes, Prime Minister", thinking that it was way over the top! It is turning out that it was way short of the mark, compared to the present sordid reality! A certain T. May is out of her depth when dealing with her coterie of Civil Service controllers (aka "advisers") i.e. Robbins & Sedwill. She is clearly several promotions beyond her capacity and is an affront to our democracy, as well as a threat to our sovereignty.
Unfortunately, we have a largely supine rabble of Tory MPs, who have proved their ineptitude, first by giving her the top job then by failing to deal with the clear threat she was posing by refusing to get rid of her'.
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Post by rokerite on May 2, 2019 10:46:05 GMT 1
I like this comment:- 'To think we laughed at "Yes, Prime Minister", thinking that it was way over the top! It is turning out that it was way short of the mark, compared to the present sordid reality! A certain T. May is out of her depth when dealing with her coterie of Civil Service controllers (aka "advisers") i.e. Robbins & Sedwill. She is clearly several promotions beyond her capacity and is an affront to our democracy, as well as a threat to our sovereignty. Unfortunately, we have a largely supine rabble of Tory MPs, who have proved their ineptitude, first by giving her the top job then by failing to deal with the clear threat she was posing by refusing to get rid of her'. As a life-long Tory voter I can't disagree with a word of that.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2019 11:03:35 GMT 1
So now we have Penny Mordaunt who loves to create a splash. Another Brexiter but with an armed forces background.
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Post by northwestman on May 2, 2019 11:37:30 GMT 1
So now we have Penny Mordaunt who loves to create a splash. Another Brexiter but with an armed forces background. So does her successor, Rory Stewart, have such a background. Spectacularly unsuccessful in overseeing our prison system:- www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45247719Still, let him have a go at something else! Grayling is on his 4th go at a Ministerial post, with his previous tenure at the Ministry of Justice well up there in his list of failures. Another Eton, Oxford and PPE Graduate by the way.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2019 13:35:44 GMT 1
Not had that much time to keep up with things at the moment but could this be Williamson leaking the information because as defense secretary he believes handing over such work to Huawei would pose a risk? I think I'll hang on having a dig at Williamson, he might well be doing this in order to bring this to everyone's attention. What with Huawei being under the spotlight as they are. Whoever leaked it I'm happy they did so as you would think it does have some risk, good that someone has exposed the government for making the decision to go with them. What a shambles they are... It’s not Huawei doing the work that’s the point, it’s that this is a top secret committee and nothing that happens there should be divulged. A leaker is a threat to national security and not to be trusted. A principled politician with concerns would resign his/her post and openly campaign on the matter. While I agree with you ST, that a foreign power has access to our 5G infrastructure should be a worry. My initial post on this was a a two pronged barb. One at the Government and one at the leak.
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Post by albionshrew on May 2, 2019 14:15:06 GMT 1
So now we have Penny Mordaunt who loves to create a splash. Another Brexiter but with an armed forces background. And what a dreadful hair style!
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Post by The Black Fingernail on May 2, 2019 14:34:50 GMT 1
So now we have Penny Mordaunt who loves to create a splash. Another Brexiter but with an armed forces background. And what a dreadful hair style! Vidal Sassoon is alive and kicking after all. 😀
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Post by venceremos on May 2, 2019 15:32:41 GMT 1
So now we have Penny Mordaunt who loves to create a splash. Another Brexiter but with an armed forces background. So does her successor, Rory Stewart, have such a background. Spectacularly unsuccessful in overseeing our prison system:- www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45247719Still, let him have a go at something else! Grayling is on his 4th go at a Ministerial post, with his previous tenure at the Ministry of Justice well up there in his list of failures. Another Eton, Oxford and PPE Graduate by the way. Mordaunt was dishonest about Turkey supposedly joining the EU. In November, Stewart infamously claimed 80% of the British public supported May's brexit deal. When pressed on the source of this statistic, he said "I'm producing a number to try to illustrate what I believe". Allow me to do the same: 100% of sensible people believe we have liars and morons in government, whoever gets sacked or promoted.
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