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Post by venceremos on May 1, 2019 18:13:16 GMT 1
do you agree with the comments I replied to then ? in my opinion Saturdays results is totally irrelevant I do, as it happens, think that's fairly clear given that the post you replied to mirrors my own sentiments from earlier in the thread. Either way, all you needed to do was add the words "in my opinion" to your post. Please God no! If we all start adding "in my opinion" every time we're expressing our opinions, almost every post will end with a legalistic small print, "share prices can go down as well as up" style qualification. We don't need to say these are just our opinions, do we?
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Post by cmonsalop on May 1, 2019 18:21:57 GMT 1
Just been in to website and bought 3 tickets. Had to settle for block 12 as there's nothing in 18 or 19, have these really sold out or have they just stopped selling to try to limit any possible trouble? Very few tickets available unless you dont mind sitting at the front.
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Post by Pilch on May 2, 2019 1:39:43 GMT 1
Just been in to website and bought 3 tickets. Had to settle for block 12 as there's nothing in 18 or 19, have these really sold out or have they just stopped selling to try to limit any possible trouble? Very few tickets available unless you dont mind sitting at the front. sounds like sold out those at front always last as you get wet if it rains
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Post by zenfootball2 on May 2, 2019 9:07:31 GMT 1
Just been in to website and bought 3 tickets. Had to settle for block 12 as there's nothing in 18 or 19, have these really sold out or have they just stopped selling to try to limit any possible trouble? Very few tickets available unless you dont mind sitting at the front. sounds like sold out those at front always last as you get wet if it rains let us hope the weather forecast is right sunny intervals with a moderate breeze
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Post by Chief Inspector Swan on May 2, 2019 13:15:29 GMT 1
sounds like sold out those at front always last as you get wet if it rains let us hope the weather forecast is right sunny intervals with a moderate breeze You can’t smoke at the stadium nowadays.
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Post by champagneprince on May 2, 2019 19:10:45 GMT 1
I do, as it happens, think that's fairly clear given that the post you replied to mirrors my own sentiments from earlier in the thread. Either way, all you needed to do was add the words "in my opinion" to your post. Please God no! If we all start adding "in my opinion" every time we're expressing our opinions, almost every post will end with a legalistic small print, "share prices can go down as well as up" style qualification. We don't need to say these are just our opinions, do we? You're right, it's obvious on an internet messageboard where people share opinions, that they don't need to say 'in my opinion', although in my opinion the abbreviated IMO is suitable for those who feel uncomfortable not doing so.
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Post by Liam on May 2, 2019 19:37:04 GMT 1
If town win or draw SR is safe to get on with his job in the close season without much interference on this board. If we loose the SR speculation will rumble on. Lets hope for a town win or draw and a settled close season with Walsall relegated. the result is irrelevant as far as support for rickets goes It really isn't. He's been personally and pointedly booed off twice in the past four home games. Clearly the home support isn't impressed. Do you really think it'll make no difference to the way the Meadow support views him if the choice is between: a) finishing the season by sending down a local rival who we haven't properly got one over on in 20+ years. or b) finishing the season keeping them up and having to endure their supporters goading us all on our home turf, whilst losing to one of the objectively worst teams in the league in the process? That's a huge difference in tone to go out on with no game for 3 months. If I were Ricketts, I would be extremely keen to avoid b). To his credit, he seems to realise this.
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Post by Pilch on May 2, 2019 20:26:27 GMT 1
the result is irrelevant as far as support for rickets goes It really isn't. He's been personally and pointedly booed off twice in the past four home games. Clearly the home support isn't impressed. Do you really think it'll make no difference to the way the Meadow support views him if the choice is between: a) finishing the season by sending down a local rival who we haven't properly got one over on in 20+ years. or b) finishing the season keeping them up and having to endure their supporters goading us all on our home turf, whilst losing to one of the objectively worst teams in the league in the process? That's a huge difference in tone to go out on with no game for 3 months. If I were Ricketts, I would be extremely keen to avoid b). To his credit, he seems to realise this. yes I do think its makes no difference it matters as much as if it were the Shropshire senior cup final to finish off the season if walsall somehow stay up we won't even hear the boos from the minority
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on May 2, 2019 20:27:10 GMT 1
Sorry but it IS irrelevant for many fans, it is only the Ricketts haters that this game is relevant for. For all the reasons you give it is still a meaningless end of season game for Town. Ricketts will be here and judged by what he does from after this game going forward and rightly so. Would still love to send Walsall down though...........
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Post by shrewswolf on May 2, 2019 23:38:49 GMT 1
the result is irrelevant as far as support for rickets goes It really isn't. He's been personally and pointedly booed off twice in the past four home games. Clearly the home support isn't impressed. Do you really think it'll make no difference to the way the Meadow support views him if the choice is between: a) finishing the season by sending down a local rival who we haven't properly got one over on in 20+ years. or b) finishing the season keeping them up and having to endure their supporters goading us all on our home turf, whilst losing to one of the objectively worst teams in the league in the process? That's a huge difference in tone to go out on with no game for 3 months. If I were Ricketts, I would be extremely keen to avoid b). To his credit, he seems to realise this. This. The fact it’s sold out tells you everything you need to know, it’s no dead rubber when a game generates interest like this amongst the fan base, and wants a win as much as any other time during the season when points ‘mattered’. The home games only fans need to see something similar to what Ricketts got the lads producing at Gillingham, Southend & Barnsley. I mean, this crowd is practically everyone that we can hope to attract to the meadow more regularly next season. It’s at the very least a good opportunity for Ricketts to appease many who aren’t sure he’s up to it.
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Post by martinshrew on May 3, 2019 0:19:07 GMT 1
the result is irrelevant as far as support for rickets goes It really isn't. He's been personally and pointedly booed off twice in the past four home games. Clearly the home support isn't impressed. Do you really think it'll make no difference to the way the Meadow support views him if the choice is between: a) finishing the season by sending down a local rival who we haven't properly got one over on in 20+ years. or b) finishing the season keeping them up and having to endure their supporters goading us all on our home turf, whilst losing to one of the objectively worst teams in the league in the process? That's a huge difference in tone to go out on with no game for 3 months. If I were Ricketts, I would be extremely keen to avoid b). To his credit, he seems to realise this. 100% this.
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Post by Pilch on May 3, 2019 2:04:26 GMT 1
the last similar game to this Saturdays was Pompey in 2013 last game of the season they were rock bottom with 32 points and long down we were just safe on 52 points you'll find the day around here blueandamber.proboards.com/board/31/shrewsbury-town-messageboard?page=366instead of a thread mentioning worst ever season, a thread was started asking about the best moment of the season blueandamber.proboards.com/thread/83427/best-moments-season?page=2its back when no-one moaned at the manager.and all looked forward to supporting him next season even though we'd just stayed up by the skin of our teeth the manager was a graham turner no one dared boo or comment about how bad the season was or how he has to go early next season if we get off to a bad start if they had have done, I probably wouldn't have been on my own defending him no one mentioned the importance of the upcoming Pompey game because that wasn't important either over 8k there too town won 3-2 seems to me that the only difference from that season to this season is if you use the previous season as a benchmark I really hope next season we still aren't comparing it to last season I think even Leicester don't do that anymore
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Post by frankwellshrews on May 3, 2019 8:30:15 GMT 1
the last similar game to this Saturdays was Pompey in 2013 last game of the season they were rock bottom with 32 points and long down we were just safe on 52 points you'll find the day around here blueandamber.proboards.com/board/31/shrewsbury-town-messageboard?page=366instead of a thread mentioning worst ever season, a thread was started asking about the best moment of the season blueandamber.proboards.com/thread/83427/best-moments-season?page=2its back when no-one moaned at the manager.and all looked forward to supporting him next season even though we'd just stayed up by the skin of our teeth the manager was a graham turner no one dared boo or comment about how bad the season was or how he has to go early next season if we get off to a bad start if they had have done, I probably wouldn't have been on my own defending him no one mentioned the importance of the upcoming Pompey game because that wasn't important either over 8k there too town won 3-2 seems to me that the only difference from that season to this season is if you use the previous season as a benchmark I really hope next season we still aren't comparing it to last season I think even Leicester don't do that anymore Context was completely different thete though. Much lower expectations. Also nit a derby game with the chance to send a rival down. That said if tomorrow is hslf as good a game with beautiful sunshine as that day I'll be a happy man. Either way, both yourself and grizzly are still missing the point. It doesn't matter that you see it as irrelevant. There's still plainly a significant and vocal group within the fanbase that are not convinced by Ricketts. Saturdsy is a chance for him to either silence those critics or spend a summer dealing with lingering doubt from within the club. Really can't see why you're still arguing this point; there isn't some moral dury to "get behind the manager". If people don't rate him, the money they've put into the club over the years entitles them to an opinion just as much as you have. That's what the term "supporter" literally means after all. It's up to Ricketts and the team to change that through what happens on the pitch, not you admonishing people for having an opinion.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on May 3, 2019 8:37:20 GMT 1
I really do fear for Ricketts on the opening day of next season if we are not 2-0 up after 15 mins, I really do.
Great to have a generally growing number of supporters, but not if the majority of them moan at everything a manager does.
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Post by cheggersdrinkspop on May 3, 2019 9:17:16 GMT 1
the last similar game to this Saturdays was Pompey in 2013 last game of the season they were rock bottom with 32 points and long down we were just safe on 52 points you'll find the day around here blueandamber.proboards.com/board/31/shrewsbury-town-messageboard?page=366instead of a thread mentioning worst ever season, a thread was started asking about the best moment of the season blueandamber.proboards.com/thread/83427/best-moments-season?page=2its back when no-one moaned at the manager.and all looked forward to supporting him next season even though we'd just stayed up by the skin of our teeth the manager was a graham turner no one dared boo or comment about how bad the season was or how he has to go early next season if we get off to a bad start if they had have done, I probably wouldn't have been on my own defending him no one mentioned the importance of the upcoming Pompey game because that wasn't important either over 8k there too town won 3-2 seems to me that the only difference from that season to this season is if you use the previous season as a benchmark I really hope next season we still aren't comparing it to last season I think even Leicester don't do that anymore Context was completely different thete though. Much lower expectations. Also nit a derby game with the chance to send a rival down. That said if tomorrow is hslf as good a game with beautiful sunshine as that day I'll be a happy man. Either way, both yourself and grizzly are still missing the point. It doesn't matter that you see it as irrelevant. There's still plainly a significant and vocal group within the fanbase that are not convinced by Ricketts. Saturdsy is a chance for him to either silence those critics or spend a summer dealing with lingering doubt from within the club. Really can't see why you're still arguing this point; there isn't some moral dury to "get behind the manager". If people don't rate him, the money they've put into the club over the years entitles them to an opinion just as much as you have. That's what the term "supporter" literally means after all. It's up to Ricketts and the team to change that through what happens on the pitch, not you admonishing people for having an opinion. Judging by this thread and others you do seem to have quite a thing about SR's tenure as Manager, now and going forward. It would be interesting to hear what your resolution to this is. Another point that requires a bit of quantifying is that SR has not spent any money yet has he?
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Post by scooter on May 3, 2019 9:50:17 GMT 1
the last similar game to this Saturdays was Pompey in 2013 last game of the season they were rock bottom with 32 points and long down we were just safe on 52 points you'll find the day around here blueandamber.proboards.com/board/31/shrewsbury-town-messageboard?page=366instead of a thread mentioning worst ever season, a thread was started asking about the best moment of the season blueandamber.proboards.com/thread/83427/best-moments-season?page=2its back when no-one moaned at the manager.and all looked forward to supporting him next season even though we'd just stayed up by the skin of our teeth the manager was a graham turner no one dared boo or comment about how bad the season was or how he has to go early next season if we get off to a bad start if they had have done, I probably wouldn't have been on my own defending him no one mentioned the importance of the upcoming Pompey game because that wasn't important either over 8k there too town won 3-2 seems to me that the only difference from that season to this season is if you use the previous season as a benchmark I really hope next season we still aren't comparing it to last season I think even Leicester don't do that anymore Context was completely different thete though. Much lower expectations. Also nit a derby game with the chance to send a rival down. That said if tomorrow is hslf as good a game with beautiful sunshine as that day I'll be a happy man. Either way, both yourself and grizzly are still missing the point. It doesn't matter that you see it as irrelevant. There's still plainly a significant and vocal group within the fanbase that are not convinced by Ricketts. Saturdsy is a chance for him to either silence those critics or spend a summer dealing with lingering doubt from within the club. Really can't see why you're still arguing this point; there isn't some moral dury to "get behind the manager". If people don't rate him, the money they've put into the club over the years entitles them to an opinion just as much as you have. That's what the term "supporter" literally means after all. It's up to Ricketts and the team to change that through what happens on the pitch, not you admonishing people for having an opinion. Not sure what happened to the old Frankwellshrews. Seems like a different person ! if Town win anyone not convinced by Ricketts won’t change their mind will they ? They will just say that Walsall are rubbish, so this game won’t change anyone’s opinion
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Post by martinshrew on May 3, 2019 10:45:54 GMT 1
the last similar game to this Saturdays was Pompey in 2013 last game of the season they were rock bottom with 32 points and long down we were just safe on 52 points you'll find the day around here blueandamber.proboards.com/board/31/shrewsbury-town-messageboard?page=366instead of a thread mentioning worst ever season, a thread was started asking about the best moment of the season blueandamber.proboards.com/thread/83427/best-moments-season?page=2its back when no-one moaned at the manager.and all looked forward to supporting him next season even though we'd just stayed up by the skin of our teeth the manager was a graham turner no one dared boo or comment about how bad the season was or how he has to go early next season if we get off to a bad start if they had have done, I probably wouldn't have been on my own defending him no one mentioned the importance of the upcoming Pompey game because that wasn't important either over 8k there too town won 3-2 seems to me that the only difference from that season to this season is if you use the previous season as a benchmark I really hope next season we still aren't comparing it to last season I think even Leicester don't do that anymore I don't understand how you can't grasp that after finishing 3rd and raking in about £4m, some people expected a bit better than scraping round the basement of the division all season and confirming safety (not even mathematically) on the penultimate game. I'm not saying we should have won the league or anything daft nor is anybody else, a few of us merely express the view that relegation shouldn't have been a concern this season. I'm not saying we're right and you're wrong but that's our view, is it that hard to take on board and stop talking down to those who hold this view point?
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Post by Pilch on May 3, 2019 11:31:47 GMT 1
the last similar game to this Saturdays was Pompey in 2013 last game of the season they were rock bottom with 32 points and long down we were just safe on 52 points you'll find the day around here blueandamber.proboards.com/board/31/shrewsbury-town-messageboard?page=366instead of a thread mentioning worst ever season, a thread was started asking about the best moment of the season blueandamber.proboards.com/thread/83427/best-moments-season?page=2its back when no-one moaned at the manager.and all looked forward to supporting him next season even though we'd just stayed up by the skin of our teeth the manager was a graham turner no one dared boo or comment about how bad the season was or how he has to go early next season if we get off to a bad start if they had have done, I probably wouldn't have been on my own defending him no one mentioned the importance of the upcoming Pompey game because that wasn't important either over 8k there too town won 3-2 seems to me that the only difference from that season to this season is if you use the previous season as a benchmark I really hope next season we still aren't comparing it to last season I think even Leicester don't do that anymore I don't understand how you can't grasp that after finishing 3rd and raking in about £4m, some people expected a bit better than scr@ping round the basement of the division all season and confirming safety (not even mathematically) on the penultimate game. I'm not saying we should have won the league or anything daft nor is anybody else, a few of us merely express the view that relegation shouldn't have been a concern this season. I'm not saying we're right and you're wrong but that's our view, is it that hard to take on board and stop talking down to those who hold this view point? didn't we make 340K last season ? its actually been another good season financially and we have hurst again to thank for that £2 million came in for 2 players that bloke is a genius, not even here and making money for us
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Post by Pilch on May 3, 2019 11:39:46 GMT 1
Context was completely different thete though. Much lower expectations. Also nit a derby game with the chance to send a rival down. That said if tomorrow is hslf as good a game with beautiful sunshine as that day I'll be a happy man. Either way, both yourself and grizzly are still missing the point. It doesn't matter that you see it as irrelevant. There's still plainly a significant and vocal group within the fanbase that are not convinced by Ricketts. Saturdsy is a chance for him to either silence those critics or spend a summer dealing with lingering doubt from within the club. Really can't see why you're still arguing this point; there isn't some moral dury to "get behind the manager". If people don't rate him, the money they've put into the club over the years entitles them to an opinion just as much as you have. That's what the term "supporter" literally means after all. It's up to Ricketts and the team to change that through what happens on the pitch, not you admonishing people for having an opinion. Judging by this thread and others you do seem to have quite a thing about SR's tenure as Manager, now and going forward. It would be interesting to hear what your resolution to this is. Another point that requires a bit of quantifying is that SR has not spent any money yet has he? yes, we paid money for what seems like the only decent defender Man U had at the club
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Post by Pilch on May 3, 2019 11:51:44 GMT 1
the last similar game to this Saturdays was Pompey in 2013 last game of the season they were rock bottom with 32 points and long down we were just safe on 52 points you'll find the day around here blueandamber.proboards.com/board/31/shrewsbury-town-messageboard?page=366instead of a thread mentioning worst ever season, a thread was started asking about the best moment of the season blueandamber.proboards.com/thread/83427/best-moments-season?page=2its back when no-one moaned at the manager.and all looked forward to supporting him next season even though we'd just stayed up by the skin of our teeth the manager was a graham turner no one dared boo or comment about how bad the season was or how he has to go early next season if we get off to a bad start if they had have done, I probably wouldn't have been on my own defending him no one mentioned the importance of the upcoming Pompey game because that wasn't important either over 8k there too town won 3-2 seems to me that the only difference from that season to this season is if you use the previous season as a benchmark I really hope next season we still aren't comparing it to last season I think even Leicester don't do that anymore Context was completely different thete though. Much lower expectations. Also nit a derby game with the chance to send a rival down. That said if tomorrow is hslf as good a game with beautiful sunshine as that day I'll be a happy man. Either way, both yourself and grizzly are still missing the point. It doesn't matter that you see it as irrelevant. There's still plainly a significant and vocal group within the fanbase that are not convinced by Ricketts. Saturdsy is a chance for him to either silence those critics or spend a summer dealing with lingering doubt from within the club. Really can't see why you're still arguing this point; there isn't some moral dury to "get behind the manager". If people don't rate him, the money they've put into the club over the years entitles them to an opinion just as much as you have. That's what the term "supporter" literally means after all. It's up to Ricketts and the team to change that through what happens on the pitch, not you admonishing people for having an opinion. I don't think the minority have put anywhere near enough money in the club to pay to change the manager it would probably cost most of last seasons profit to do so and disrupt the side yet again if a small amount of fans think thats best for our club then I think we are better off without them I would guess our chairman has all sort of clauses in our managers contract to to say goodbye on the cheap if things are not going well next season but I dont think there is a clause that allows him to get rid on the cheap when he's bang on target to do what he was brought in for I'd say he's well above target, the cup run must have fetched in a huge unexpected bonus, and he's already signed a great looking player or 2, and most importantly kept us up, had we not had a decent cup run we might have done better in the league, thats football for you
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2019 12:13:51 GMT 1
If we win then there probably won't be much praise for the team/Ricketts, the focus will be on Walsall but also just being grateful this season is over. I can't see it changing peoples minds on Ricketts
If we lose then people will be moaning at us losing to a local rival, particularly one who are having a dreadful season and will use it as an excuse/justification to question Ricketts and whether he should be at the club.
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Post by cmonsalop on May 3, 2019 12:32:42 GMT 1
the last similar game to this Saturdays was Pompey in 2013 last game of the season they were rock bottom with 32 points and long down we were just safe on 52 points you'll find the day around here blueandamber.proboards.com/board/31/shrewsbury-town-messageboard?page=366instead of a thread mentioning worst ever season, a thread was started asking about the best moment of the season blueandamber.proboards.com/thread/83427/best-moments-season?page=2its back when no-one moaned at the manager.and all looked forward to supporting him next season even though we'd just stayed up by the skin of our teeth the manager was a graham turner no one dared boo or comment about how bad the season was or how he has to go early next season if we get off to a bad start if they had have done, I probably wouldn't have been on my own defending him no one mentioned the importance of the upcoming Pompey game because that wasn't important either over 8k there too town won 3-2 seems to me that the only difference from that season to this season is if you use the previous season as a benchmark I really hope next season we still aren't comparing it to last season I think even Leicester don't do that anymore I don't understand how you can't grasp that after finishing 3rd and raking in about £4m, some people expected a bit better than scr@ping round the basement of the division all season and confirming safety (not even mathematically) on the penultimate game. I'm not saying we should have won the league or anything daft nor is anybody else, a few of us merely express the view that relegation shouldn't have been a concern this season. I'm not saying we're right and you're wrong but that's our view, is it that hard to take on board and stop talking down to those who hold this view point? I'm not surprised we struggled this season, teams that lose in the playoffs often do. Add to that the way PH left taking two players at the last minute and the fact that a number of players did not want to re-sign is it really surprising?
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Post by shropshirelad42 on May 3, 2019 15:06:13 GMT 1
I have been obsessed/passionate about STFC since my first visit when I was 8 years old in 1950.
There is NO SUCH THING as an irrelevant game no matter who we play.
But especially when it's ..... SHREWSBURY TOWN FC v WALSALL FC
The atmosphere should be electric, even if it's a crap game. Can't wait for 5.30 tomorrow.
COME ON YOU MIGHTY SHREWS
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2019 16:06:33 GMT 1
Let's hope there's not a repeat of this tomorrow, and block 18/19 reign in there more wagon related insults:
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2019 16:08:29 GMT 1
Does anyone know if the Wild Pig will be extending hospitality to our lucky heather friends? If so, might stick to The Masonic tomorrow? Big recipe for trouble.
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Post by tvor on May 3, 2019 17:26:48 GMT 1
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Post by tvor on May 3, 2019 17:31:04 GMT 1
Does anyone know if the Wild Pig will be extending hospitality to our lucky heather friends? If so, might stick to The Masonic tomorrow? Big recipe for trouble. According to the Walsall forum the Wild Pig and the Charles Darwin are both available to their fans tomorrow.
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Post by davycrockett on May 3, 2019 18:02:14 GMT 1
Does anyone know if the Wild Pig will be extending hospitality to our lucky heather friends? If so, might stick to The Masonic tomorrow? Big recipe for trouble. Why wouldn’t they? Never been a problem pre match, will be more police and SIA about than any other match..... would imagine more problems walking up Belle Bue Road with Walsall fans that have been in town since 12 making their way to the ground..... After the game maybe
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Post by shrewswolf on May 3, 2019 18:58:15 GMT 1
As ever, the fans with reservations and concerns are labelled the ‘vocal minority’ as if it gives credence to the those with a positive opinion to state that like its fact. I’d say it’s pretty even, actually. There’s plenty of people I know who aren’t vocal and yet still have serious doubts and/or wouldn’t mind if Ricketts left. The poll ran on this messageboard would have entirely different result if I asked them to vote.
Graham Turner is actually a really good example of our fan base hating s**t football way before our expectations were supposedly warped by coming 3rd. Turner walked after fan discontent got louder & louder, this despite him already being a legend & then grabbing us a first promotion in years. Roland wasn’t going to pull the trigger because of their relationship, but GT didn’t risk his reputation. Fans lauded him for it, and were gutted because (unlike Ricketts), a club icon had lost his magic touch. Can we please stop pretending that not liking cr@p performance after cr@p performance, or not liking mental tactics/selections is higher than us Shrewsbury folk are allowed to expect.
So yeah, I want to enjoy tomorrow’s match, like I have done on just four league occasions and a couple of cups under SR. Might mean I look forward to next season just that little bit more.
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Post by zenfootball2 on May 4, 2019 9:43:37 GMT 1
come on town turn up and do a number on Walsall
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