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Post by Mortgagehound on May 1, 2019 7:33:46 GMT 1
This vote seems to raise two questions
• Massive majority in favour seems to suggest a ringing endorsement of our leaders performance thus far.....
Or
• Fans fear of the unknown if we throw the dice and replace Mr Samuel
Very interesting
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Post by stuttgartershrew on May 1, 2019 8:24:38 GMT 1
I've voted that he should stay. He's made mistakes and looks all over the place at times but then we have looked decent enough at times too. He's very new to this management malarkey, not yet seen out his first season, he's still very much learning his trade. So with that said I'm more than happy to see him stay and given more time next season. And more to the point, I think the chairman is too so I would guess this is all academic anyhow...
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Post by horse01 on May 1, 2019 8:49:10 GMT 1
Perhaps the more poignant question would be: (totally hypothetical obviously)
If Sam Ricketts left his role at the club, would you have confidence in the board to make the correct appointment to replace him??
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Post by blueboy62 on May 1, 2019 10:20:50 GMT 1
Perhaps the more poignant question would be: (totally hypothetical obviously) If Sam Ricketts left his role at the club, would you have confidence in the board to make the correct appointment to replace him?? There's no vacancy so all academic. The club definitely got it right in appointing Hurst. We were in a mess but he went on to achieve amazing success. Askey took over a club in turmoil and was given no time to put it right. I thought he was a good fit for our club in the long term but we pressed the panic button early. We don't really know if the club were wrong to appoint him and right to sack him or right to appointment him and wrong to sack him. We're they right or wrong to bow to fan pressure? Rickets took over with the club still in trouble. We have flirted with relegation all season but so have half the league. Rickets kept us in League 1. He's proved very little yet except he has potential but has earned the right to continue. We must not become a sacking club. I have no doubt the Board will back Rickets, not only to continue in his job but provide the money for players. It'll be Rickets team, system, coaching and tactics. He'll either prove himself or he won't and I guess we'll know by November.
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Post by blueboy62 on May 1, 2019 10:27:45 GMT 1
Perhaps the more poignant question would be: (totally hypothetical obviously) If Sam Ricketts left his role at the club, would you have confidence in the board to make the correct appointment to replace him?? There's no vacancy so all academic. The club definitely got it right in appointing Hurst. We were in a mess but he went on to achieve amazing success. Askey took over a club in turmoil and was given no time to put it right. I thought he was a good fit for our club in the long term but we pressed the panic button early. We don't really know if the club were wrong to appoint him and right to sack him or right to appointment him and wrong to sack him. We're they right or wrong to bow to fan pressure? Rickets took over with the club still in trouble. We have flirted with relegation all season but so have half the league. Rickets kept us in League 1. He's proved very little yet except he has potential but has earned the right to continue. We must not become a sacking club. I have no doubt the Board will back Rickets, not only to continue in his job but provide the money for players. It'll be Rickets team, system, coaching and tactics. He'll either prove himself or he won't and I guess we'll know by November. The short nswer to your question is 'Yes'. I just got a bit carrried away.
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Post by Pilch on May 1, 2019 11:24:05 GMT 1
Perhaps the more poignant question would be: (totally hypothetical obviously) If Sam Ricketts left his role at the club, would you have confidence in the board to make the correct appointment to replace him?? what do you class as a correct appointment ? one that doesn't walk out halfway through the job maybe ? how do you know we don't already have one ? are you going to go on about rickets leaving for the rest of your life ?
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Post by horse01 on May 1, 2019 11:40:32 GMT 1
Perhaps the more poignant question would be: (totally hypothetical obviously) If Sam Ricketts left his role at the club, would you have confidence in the board to make the correct appointment to replace him?? what do you class as a correct appointment ? one that doesn't walk out halfway through the job maybe ? how do you know we don't already have one ? are you going to go on about rickets leaving for the rest of your life ? Just for your benefit, this is the Collins English Dictionary definition of ‘hypothetical’ : Hypothetical adjective If something is hypothetical, it is based on possible ideas or situations rather than actual ones.
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Post by venceremos on May 1, 2019 12:15:25 GMT 1
Perhaps the more poignant question would be: (totally hypothetical obviously) If Sam Ricketts left his role at the club, would you have confidence in the board to make the correct appointment to replace him?? While you've got your dictionary to hand - "poignant"? Did you mean that?
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Post by venceremos on May 1, 2019 12:17:15 GMT 1
This vote seems to raise two questions • Massive majority in favour seems to suggest a ringing endorsement of our leaders performance thus far..... Or • Fans fear of the unknown if we throw the dice and replace Mr Samuel Very interesting All I can say is my vote for him to stay wasn't for either of those reasons. So perhaps more than two.
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Post by horse01 on May 1, 2019 12:37:32 GMT 1
Perhaps the more poignant question would be: (totally hypothetical obviously) If Sam Ricketts left his role at the club, would you have confidence in the board to make the correct appointment to replace him?? While you've got your dictionary to hand - "poignant"? Did you mean that? I actually put potent, so not sure why it came out as poignant?
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Post by davycrockett on May 1, 2019 12:51:08 GMT 1
While you've got your dictionary to hand - "poignant"? Did you mean that? I actually put potent, so not sure why it came out as poignant? You’d better be careful quoting dictionaries.... Potent 2. (of a male) able to achieve an erection or to reach an orgasm. 🤔
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Post by horse01 on May 1, 2019 13:02:36 GMT 1
I actually put potent, so not sure why it came out as poignant? You’d better be careful quoting dictionaries.... Potent 2. (of a male) able to achieve an erection or to reach an orgasm. 🤔 No worries there my friend!!! 👍🏻
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Post by blueboy62 on May 1, 2019 13:11:55 GMT 1
what do you class as a correct appointment ? one that doesn't walk out halfway through the job maybe ? how do you know we don't already have one ? are you going to go on about rickets leaving for the rest of your life ? Just for your benefit, this is the Collins English Dictionary definition of ‘hypothetical’ : Hypothetical adjective If something is hypothetical, it is based on possible ideas or situations rather than actual ones. Some sympathy for Horse 1. It seems opinions are quickly shot down on this discussion platform. While we're on the subject; Dictionary definition of 'Argument' Opinion, discussion, debate. Dictionary definition of 'Argumentative' Given to excessive arguing,disputations, characterised by argument, controversial discourse. I love B&A forits opinions and debate. I also like to contribute but I don't want to be sniped at by the Thought Police. If things don't improve it may be wise to take a break.
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Post by venceremos on May 1, 2019 13:22:53 GMT 1
Just for your benefit, this is the Collins English Dictionary definition of ‘hypothetical’ : Hypothetical adjective If something is hypothetical, it is based on possible ideas or situations rather than actual ones. Some sympathy for Horse 1. It seems opinions are quickly shot down on this discussion platform. While we're on the subject; Dictionary definition of 'Argument' Opinion, discussion, debate. Dictionary definition of 'Argumentative' Given to excessive arguing,disputations, characterised by argument, controversial discourse. I love B&A forits opinions and debate. I also like to contribute but I don't want to be sniped at by the Thought Police. If things don't improve it may be wise to take a break. Opinions aren't shot down. They might be challenged by people with equally strongly held views and then it's up to each poster whether they want to engage in debate or leave their opinion to stand alone. Both are equally valid. Horse1 usually engages and does a good job of it - as much as I often disagree with him. There are two things I never feel obliged to say here because, as far as I'm concerned, they should be taken as read: 1. If I give my opinion, it's just that - no need for me to say IMHO every time but that's all it is. 2. Other people are just as fully entitled to express their ill-considered, bozo opinions, even if mine are more sensible.
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Post by horse01 on May 1, 2019 13:31:16 GMT 1
Just for your benefit, this is the Collins English Dictionary definition of ‘hypothetical’ : Hypothetical adjective If something is hypothetical, it is based on possible ideas or situations rather than actual ones. Some sympathy for Horse 1. It seems opinions are quickly shot down on this discussion platform. While we're on the subject; Dictionary definition of 'Argument' Opinion, discussion, debate. Dictionary definition of 'Argumentative' Given to excessive arguing,disputations, characterised by argument, controversial discourse. I love B&A forits opinions and debate. I also like to contribute but I don't want to be sniped at by the Thought Police. If things don't improve it may be wise to take a break. Thanks for that BlueBoy 👍🏻 I come on here to have a reasoned discussion with others who share a common goal - to achieve the best for Shrewsbury Town Football Club. I try to give MY opinion as I see it, and as best I can, articulate it wherever possible. I would never expect everyone to agree with my opinion, that is what makes a good debate - differing points of view. It just gets extremely tiresome when everything you comment on gets constantly sniped at. If people don’t agree with it, fine, not a problem, have a reasoned debate; but does it really have turn into a slanging match each time??
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Post by Pilch on May 1, 2019 14:14:49 GMT 1
what do you class as a correct appointment ? one that doesn't walk out halfway through the job maybe ? how do you know we don't already have one ? are you going to go on about rickets leaving for the rest of your life ? Just for your benefit, this is the Collins English Dictionary definition of ‘hypothetical’ : Hypothetical adjective If something is hypothetical, it is based on possible ideas or situations rather than actual ones. just for your benefit. ( the bloke who states on this thread he doesn't want a slanging match ) if you ask a question on a forum no matter how hypothetical or even pathetic (in your case) the question is or even how many question marks it has at the end be prepared for someone to reply here's a hypothetical question for you if you were offered a pill that immediately made you as intelligent as the rest of us but rickets had to stay , would you take it ?
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Post by horse01 on May 1, 2019 14:17:04 GMT 1
Just for your benefit, this is the Collins English Dictionary definition of ‘hypothetical’ : Hypothetical adjective If something is hypothetical, it is based on possible ideas or situations rather than actual ones. just for your benefit. ( the bloke who states on this thread he doesn't want a slanging match ) if you ask a question on a forum no matter how hypothetical or even pathetic (in your case) the question is or even how many question marks it has at the end be prepared for someone to reply here's a hypothetical question for you if you were offered a pill that immediately made you as intelligent as the rest of us but rickets had to stay , would you take it ? Point proven
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Post by Pilch on May 1, 2019 14:19:55 GMT 1
just for your benefit. ( the bloke who states on this thread he doesn't want a slanging match ) if you ask a question on a forum no matter how hypothetical or even pathetic (in your case) the question is or even how many question marks it has at the end be prepared for someone to reply here's a hypothetical question for you if you were offered a pill that immediately made you as intelligent as the rest of us but rickets had to stay , would you take it ? Point proven I knew you'd agree ;-)
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Post by ssshrew on May 1, 2019 14:41:52 GMT 1
Can I just say that, as a woman, I am ALWAYS right (I wish this were true by the way).
As I’ve said before I don’t worry if things get heated on here because I either ignore the posts altogether or laugh. I’m not Bill Shankley so none of it is a matter of life or death to me it’s just interesting.
I would, however, hate it if any of the posters I enjoy reading were to leave because they felt bullied in any way. We lost a few last year and it would be sad if that were to be repeated.
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Post by blueboy62 on May 1, 2019 15:06:17 GMT 1
just for your benefit. ( the bloke who states on this thread he doesn't want a slanging match ) if you ask a question on a forum no matter how hypothetical or even pathetic (in your case) the question is or even how many question marks it has at the end be prepared for someone to reply here's a hypothetical question for you if you were offered a pill that immediately made you as intelligent as the rest of us but rickets had to stay , would you take it ? Point proven And an Own goal too.
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NDG
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Post by NDG on May 2, 2019 15:52:40 GMT 1
He must of learnt a lot from the last 6 months, he could still be a success here but that's up to RW and BC on if he gets the budget that Askey had. I don't think a sacking over the summer will happen but he really needs to get off to a better start in his first full season, any form like when he arrived will see him out the door quicker than Askey.
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Post by northwestman on May 2, 2019 16:27:57 GMT 1
Methinks the dictionary definition of 'narcissist' might be of relevance here.
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Post by Pilch on May 2, 2019 16:41:35 GMT 1
Methinks the dictionary definition of 'narcissist' might be of relevance here. who cares what youthinks
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Post by Red Rose In Exile on May 2, 2019 17:15:16 GMT 1
Methinks the dictionary definition of 'narcissist' might be of relevance here. who cares what youthinks well NorthWestMan and many others do.
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Post by Pilch on May 2, 2019 17:57:08 GMT 1
well NorthWestMan and many others do. methinks youthinks what hethinks
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Post by tvor on May 4, 2019 19:45:40 GMT 1
From a text sent to the verdict this evening.
When Ricketts took over Town were in 15th place, 10 points off the playoffs and 7 points clear of relegation At the end of the season Town are in 18th place, 21 points off the playoffs and 2 points clear of relegation
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Post by block18shrew on May 4, 2019 20:03:55 GMT 1
From a text sent to the verdict this evening. When Ricketts took over Town were in 15th place, 12 points off the playoffs and 7 points clear of relegation At the end of the season Town are in 18th place, 21 points off the playoffs and 2 points clear of relegation I’m sure Mark Elliot said 10 points off the playoffs but I may have misheard.
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Post by tvor on May 4, 2019 20:06:44 GMT 1
Thanks, I've just checked and you are right, I've edited my post.
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Post by masshrop on May 4, 2019 20:50:58 GMT 1
but apart from one exceptional season where do town usually finish?sam ricketts deserves our full backing cant keep getting rid of managers and re building gets you no where. ie sc***horpe
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Post by mattmw on May 4, 2019 20:55:51 GMT 1
Reached the point of not really caring if Ricketts stays or goes now. Honestly can’t see he has what it takes to be a league one manager and his tactics and selections are a mystery to everyone - including it seems the players.
Only thing making think him staying is a good idea is we’d probably manage to find someone even worse instead
Be nice to have a few months off having to sit through Town games
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