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Post by timshrew75 on Apr 22, 2019 17:13:10 GMT 1
Not tactics that lost us that game, just a poor attitude all second half and then embarrassing defending from Waterfall and Beckles AGAIN. Despite Waterfall's goals (and he's missed a few too remember) I don't want him in the team next year. Whichever Div we are in.
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Post by ssshrew on Apr 22, 2019 17:13:45 GMT 1
I am totally fed up and absolutely furious. What a completely useless bunch they are.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2019 17:15:50 GMT 1
NO points from Easter, says it all really. Today really did show up our ineptitude when it comes to defending. Absolutely bloody clueless 😕
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Post by barrynic on Apr 22, 2019 17:23:32 GMT 1
Whoever set that team up for the second half against 10 men needs sacking.
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Post by MetaShrew on Apr 22, 2019 17:25:43 GMT 1
One would hope that they did not consider themselves safe after the Gillingham win but perhaps a touch of complacency is creeping in too? As if there weren't enough problems...
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Post by mattmw on Apr 22, 2019 17:29:20 GMT 1
Looks like we are heading for a very tricky summer. Looks like we will just about stay up - but only by the skin of our teeth. So Ricketts stays after keeping us up
But can’t see The Chairman trusting Ricketts with a big budget so we go into next season with the contracted players we have and a group of cheap loans and signings from the lower leagues. Give Ricketts till November but he’s going to start next season under such a cloud the atmosphere is going to be toxic against him if we don’t start well
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Post by Luke on Apr 22, 2019 17:31:05 GMT 1
Not the first time we've let our standards (such as they are...) drop as match goes on. It has become both utterly predictable and tiresome. Regardless of how the rest of the season turns out, I just want it to be over. Awful.
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Post by Exkeeper on Apr 22, 2019 17:32:26 GMT 1
We lost the game by taking Norburn off.
Why does Whalley bother shooting with a left foot like a stick of celery?
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Post by Liam on Apr 22, 2019 17:33:16 GMT 1
A hugely complacent display all round the second half. I think Norburn going off may have been part of it. It seems that without him constantly spitting and snarling at everyone, there are quite a few out there who are a bit too "relaxed".
Whalley and Docherty were the only one who you could really say had a good game. A few others might get a pass mark.
Waterfall looks very likely to be in the squad next season, but (assuming we stay up) he shouldn't be an automatic first pick if we're really serious about trying to finish in the top half next time around.
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Post by tvor on Apr 22, 2019 17:35:58 GMT 1
Looks like we are heading for a very tricky summer. Looks like we will just about stay up - but only by the skin of our teeth. So Ricketts stays after keeping us up Not necessarily. You could argue that the brave decision is to make the change before the transfer dealings for next season begin. Given the awful run we were on only a few weeks ago you would think that the Chairman and CEO must have been making some contingency plans, or at least thinking, along these lines around that time. That said I will be very surprised if Rickets isn't in charge at the start of next season.
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Post by Exkeeper on Apr 22, 2019 17:36:22 GMT 1
A hugely complacent display all round the second half. I think Norburn going off may have been part of it. It seems that without him constantly spitting and snarling at everyone, there are quite a few out there who are a bit too "relaxed". Whalley and Docherty were the only one who you could really say had a good game. A few others might get a pass mark. Waterfall looks very likely to be in the squad next season, but (assuming we stay up) he shouldn't be an automatic first pick if we're really serious about trying to finish in the top half next time around. Waterfall AND Beckles.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Apr 22, 2019 17:38:32 GMT 1
Not going to knee-jerk, we’ve played some good stuff recently but that appalling second half was a welcome reminder of the shortcomings of many players in the team. Not sure Ricketts would’ve told them to go out and play the second half at a testimonial pace but that’s what happened. Waterfall is slow, we all know that so the real crime is him being put in the position where it can be so embarrassingly exposed.
Could name a few but particularly disappointed with Grant, Okenabirhie and Mitchell today.
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Post by Stowmarket Shrew on Apr 22, 2019 17:41:56 GMT 1
Utterly utterly awful 2nd half. In this position that is inexcusable. Oxford had nothing to play for, against ten men, at home, and needing a win to see us pretty much safe. In that context that was a huge 45 mins, and what we were served up was woeful beyond words. Ponderous going forward and abysmal at the back. This team really does know how to make it hard for itself.
The reality still is I think 50 is enough. With Wimbledon and Accrington having tricky games, with still a fair few teams below us, with our decent goal difference, and a four point cushion we may in fact be safe but for a mathematical miracle before we even start our next game, but this doesn't bode well and, yet again, defensive howlers that shouldn't have happened once, let alone twice.
Shockingly bad Town. At least Coventry have pretty much nothing to play for after their defeat today.
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Post by tvor on Apr 22, 2019 17:43:20 GMT 1
I said today was a high pressure game for Town and generally we couldn't handle it.
We'll probably stay up due to the ineptitude of other teams but that shouldn't be allowed to paper over the cracks when assessing the season after it has finished and the decisions that need to be made at that time.
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Post by haughmond on Apr 22, 2019 17:49:34 GMT 1
Why do we need to make substitutions. Unless Norburn was injured, why take him off, he was doing well. Same with Campbell, who is a far stronger and better striker than Okenbehrie. You could see what Oxford we’re doing, keeping the ball, inviting us higher up the pitch in an attempt to close them down and win the ball, leaving Waterfall and Beckles isolated. They achieved that and knew that the pace of Whyte and the other forward would be dangerous. We talk about match management, well that was a case of no game management whatsoever. Absolutely friggin clueless. Losing when being 2- 1 up against 10 men is embarrassing.
Please, please at the end of the season Ricketts, **** off and take Waterfall and Beckles with you. Enough is enough. ****in turgid display, s**te of the highest order, beyond poor.
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Post by ssshrew on Apr 22, 2019 17:50:33 GMT 1
To be honest at the moment I just don’t care anymore. Just like the players really.
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Post by Bob Rickerton on Apr 22, 2019 17:53:25 GMT 1
One of my reasons for sticking with Askey was the signs of positivity in performances that weren't necessarily reflected in results, and so given the good stuff we've played at points over the last few weeks along with a few good results I'd be a bit of a hypocrite if I called for Ricketts to go.
But today's turnaround does potentially feel quite big for him. From cruising towards safety and a potential top-half finish, we're now stumbling over the line. In reality we've probably just about done enough already, but it does feel like he could do with at least one good performance and ideally result in the next two if he's going to be certain of being in charge next season.
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Post by chameleon on Apr 22, 2019 17:54:27 GMT 1
2-1 up against 10 men and we completely mess it up, just can’t believe it. Waterfall has to be dropped after that, abysmal defending, wouldn’t get in some local Sunday league teams. Ricketts has to change our central defence. We’ve got Ryan Sears who could play there.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2019 17:54:41 GMT 1
We lost the game by taking Norburn off. Why does Whalley bother shooting with a left foot like a stick of celery? Whalley HAS to have a random left footed effort from outside the box one per game, it’s in his contract.
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Post by tvor on Apr 22, 2019 17:54:58 GMT 1
Great finishing by Whyte in fairness and far too quick for our defence, thought Mitchell might have done better with that second one! . He made a right pig's ear of trying to save that, but you're not allowed to criticise Mitchell. For the record I thought he was also beaten too easily at his near post for the Barnsley second on Friday too.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Apr 22, 2019 17:55:06 GMT 1
we saw two half's with different performances all three goals were down to poor defending, people round me thought there first was handball but he should have not got there in the first place,Waterfall and Beckles got caught out by the ball. considering we had plenty of examples that Oxford had two pacey players leaving waterfall back on his own was stupid. the keeper should have done better with the last goal.
first half we did well to get back in the game, we were creating chances ,Norburn struck the penalty well and Docherty was clinical. i was disappointed to Sears dropped as he had a very good game a linked up well with attack. 2-1
i have no idea what happened in the second half, we failed to use the width to exploit the extra man. we created no chances and looked content to run the game down,Campbell looked very unhappy to go off and whilst i am a fan of Ferjiri he really did not get in the game, Norburn looked to be limping when he went off. some dreadful defending 2-3 and then town belatedly wake up. we threw three points away and are four points clear of Sc***horpe who play Braford next and five points clear of Wimbledon who play luton on Tuesday and have a game in hand, they then play Wycombe on Saturday . so we must get something from Coventry. somehow we managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. we only have ourselves to blame we failed to mange the second half. Oxford deserve credit for sticking at it but dreadfull defending and in one case poor from the keeper made it easier.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2019 17:56:07 GMT 1
Just when I was beginning to think Ricketts wasn’t such a car crash of a manager after all. Today confirmed he is.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2019 18:01:20 GMT 1
In my opinion that was not the result we wanted but we go again on Sunday.
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Post by mattmw on Apr 22, 2019 18:01:40 GMT 1
Utterly utterly awful 2nd half. In this position that is inexcusable. Oxford had nothing to play for, against ten men, at home, and needing a win to see us pretty much safe. In that context that was a huge 45 mins, and what we were served up was woeful beyond words. Ponderous going forward and abysmal at the back. This team really does know how to make it hard for itself. The reality still is I think 50 is enough. With Wimbledon and Accrington having tricky games, with still a fair few teams below us, with our decent goal difference, and a four point cushion we may in fact be safe but for a mathematical miracle before we even start our next game, but this doesn't bode well and, yet again, defensive howlers that shouldn't have happened once, let alone twice. Shockingly bad Town. At least Coventry have pretty much nothing to play for after their defeat today. Think you are right about us being safe, but having seen Coventry on tv against Portsmouth today can see them causing us all sorts of problems with their quick forwards and passing through midfield. Add in the game possibly being their last at their ground - maybe even their last in Coventry for a while, and they will be well up for getting a win. Would take a big set of results to see us down, but the fact its still possible we can go into the last game of the season possibly at risk of relegation should never really have happened. Even if we are safe and Walsall have a chance to stop up i can still see them winning against us which would really end the season on a sour note
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Post by tvor on Apr 22, 2019 18:02:03 GMT 1
Interesting comments from Karl Robinson. www.banburycake.co.uk/sport/17590122.oxford-uniteds-ten-man-comeback-at-shrewsbury-town-fuelled-by-anger/Town's second goal came after Ahmed Kashi's straight red card, which Robinson disputed, as well as the penalty decision for the hosts' first goal.
And the United boss also hinted at a fracas in the tunnel at half-time which fanned the flames - with Whyte's second-half double securing the points.
He said: "It’s not a sending off, it’s a tackle. The pitch was dry and long, bobbly.
"It’s popped up and he’s tried to reach it with his toe.
"You never want to see a player get injured, but what made it worse was the two shin pads collided.
"That was my worry initially and then I was furious at the referee for my player getting sent off."
He added: "A few things happened in the tunnel at half-time which were horrendous. It doesn’t half get you back up.
"We were angry with a number of different things, maybe not to do with their players, but other things.
"It became a siege mentality and tactically we got it right."
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Post by tvor on Apr 22, 2019 18:08:14 GMT 1
Utterly utterly awful 2nd half. In this position that is inexcusable. Oxford had nothing to play for, against ten men, at home, and needing a win to see us pretty much safe. In that context that was a huge 45 mins, and what we were served up was woeful beyond words. Ponderous going forward and abysmal at the back. This team really does know how to make it hard for itself. The reality still is I think 50 is enough. With Wimbledon and Accrington having tricky games, with still a fair few teams below us, with our decent goal difference, and a four point cushion we may in fact be safe but for a mathematical miracle before we even start our next game, but this doesn't bode well and, yet again, defensive howlers that shouldn't have happened once, let alone twice. Shockingly bad Town. At least Coventry have pretty much nothing to play for after their defeat today. Think you are right about us being safe, but having seen Coventry on tv against Portsmouth today can see them causing us all sorts of problems with their quick forwards and passing through midfield. Add in the game possibly being their last at their ground - maybe even their last in Coventry for a while, and they will be well up for getting a win. Would take a big set of results to see us down, but the fact its still possible we can go into the last game of the season possibly at risk of relegation should never really have happened. Even if we are safe and Walsall have a chance to stop up i can still see them winning against us which would really end the season on a sour note Also remember that next Sunday is quite likely to be Coventry's last game at The Ricoh Arena. If that's the case it will be very far from a placid end of season atmosphere as far as their fans are concerned.
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Post by markievw on Apr 22, 2019 18:12:11 GMT 1
Whoever set that team up for the second half against 10 men needs sacking. Ricketts needs to take some of the s**t for that shambles
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Post by markievw on Apr 22, 2019 18:14:24 GMT 1
Woeful defending, tactics what can say? Thats the reason why after 30 years of watching town I will not go again. Ricketts is to blame, he has no tactical awareness to see out games like this Lmao Don't think the 7000 or so town fans were laughing!!!
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Post by salop27 on Apr 22, 2019 18:33:58 GMT 1
It's not often I don't stay and clap the manager and players after a game but today was one of those games. We could play 6 players in defence and we'd still let in soft goals and the "wing backs" offer nothing attack wise. If this is all Ricketts has to offer then it will be a relegation fight next season and more clueless football.
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Post by Ambergambler on Apr 22, 2019 18:35:39 GMT 1
Ricketts said Norburn was injured so was bought off feeling his Achilles. All individual errors for all three goals conceded. God I’ll be glad when the season ends. Woeful.
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