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Post by Mortgagehound on Jul 22, 2019 15:25:18 GMT 1
Well the clock is ticking and still no sign of a solution to Wanderers problems
I think its now down to four players.
Very surprised that Mr Parkinson has decided to remain as Manager
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Post by crayfish on Jul 22, 2019 15:53:25 GMT 1
What this means for league one is if Bolton and Bury survive effectively only two other teams will be relegated as with a 12 points deduction and and two teams made up of waifs and strays these two are going down.
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Post by londonshrew75 on Jul 22, 2019 16:01:38 GMT 1
Just can't see how either of them can start the season, never mind finish it as there surely isn't enough time to get things sorted in two weeks !
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Post by tdk on Jul 22, 2019 17:19:15 GMT 1
What this means for league one is if Bolton and Bury survive effectively only two other teams will be relegated as with a 12 points deduction and and two teams made up of waifs and strays these two are going down. They are both considering appealing the 12 point deduction
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Post by gainsparkshrew on Jul 22, 2019 17:44:48 GMT 1
What this means for league one is if Bolton and Bury survive effectively only two other teams will be relegated as with a 12 points deduction and and two teams made up of waifs and strays these two are going down. They are both considering appealing the 12 point deduction Bury have decided against an appeal...very wise
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Post by venceremos on Jul 22, 2019 17:49:22 GMT 1
What this means for league one is if Bolton and Bury survive effectively only two other teams will be relegated as with a 12 points deduction and and two teams made up of waifs and strays these two are going down. They are both considering appealing the 12 point deduction Should be double or quits then. I wouldn't write off any traditionally over-spending club as relegation certs with only a 12 point deduction. Didn't Bournemouth and Luton recover, or almost recover, 27/30 point deductions not so long ago?
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Post by South Stand Salopian on Jul 22, 2019 18:22:07 GMT 1
They are both considering appealing the 12 point deduction Should be double or quits then. I wouldn't write off any traditionally over-spending club as relegation certs with only a 12 point deduction. Didn't Bournemouth and Luton recover, or almost recover, 27/30 point deductions not so long ago? The season in question 2008/09 - Darlington deducted 10 points but stayed up. Rotherham deducted 17 points but stayed up. Bournemouth deducted 17 points but stayed up. Luton deducted 30 points and went down with Chester who weren’t deducted any points. www.footballsite.co.uk/Statistics/LeagueTables/Season2008-09/League22008-09.htm
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Post by venceremos on Jul 22, 2019 19:00:01 GMT 1
Should be double or quits then. I wouldn't write off any traditionally over-spending club as relegation certs with only a 12 point deduction. Didn't Bournemouth and Luton recover, or almost recover, 27/30 point deductions not so long ago? The season in question 2008/09 - Darlington deducted 10 points but stayed up. Rotherham deducted 17 points but stayed up. Bournemouth deducted 17 points but stayed up. Luton deducted 30 points and went down with Chester who weren’t deducted any points. www.footballsite.co.uk/Statistics/LeagueTables/Season2008-09/League22008-09.htmEven more than I thought - I'd forgotten about the other two and that we wouldn't have made the play offs but for their misdemeanours. The bad old days. Good job everyone's learned the lesson now …...
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Post by tvor on Jul 23, 2019 22:26:48 GMT 1
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Post by Red Rose In Exile on Jul 24, 2019 19:39:43 GMT 1
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Post by Minormorris64 on Jul 29, 2019 14:01:37 GMT 1
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Midland League Division Two
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Post by jacksdad on Jul 29, 2019 14:33:19 GMT 1
Can't see how an additional 5 hours today will make any difference for Bury, if they haven't formulated a resolution over the past how many months they're unlikely to between midday and 5pm. The EFL need to grow a pair and take action instead of delaying what looks increasingly like an inevitable outcome.
I really feel for both Bury and Bolton fans however, the EFL have got to start taking a firmer stance over football club ownership worthiness.
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Post by venceremos on Jul 29, 2019 15:24:47 GMT 1
It's an embarrassment.
Our lower leagues have always seemed strong compared to those of other countries. That's not something we could boast about now.
The system is failing. It's unfair on other clubs to start suspending games. There needs to be a real, immoveable deadline - soon - for satisfying the necessary criteria or else the league proceeds without them.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2019 17:11:56 GMT 1
Both clubs should be expelled, with other better run clubs promoted from the national league (not Wrexham).
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Post by jacksdad on Jul 29, 2019 20:30:29 GMT 1
Both clubs should be expelled, with other better run clubs promoted from the national league (not Wrexham). At least it would be a guaranteed 6 points 😂
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Post by Exkeeper on Jul 29, 2019 20:42:37 GMT 1
Both clubs should be expelled, with other better run clubs promoted from the national league (not Wrexham). At least it would be a guaranteed 6 points 😂 As it would for every other club in the League.
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Post by LetchworthShrew on Jul 29, 2019 20:42:43 GMT 1
Both clubs should be expelled, with other better run clubs promoted from the national league (not Wrexham). I would imagine if that happened then they would just run L1 with 22 clubs this season and wouldn't relegate anyone from L2 and promote 2 as normal. Gives the problem to the National League but would also depend what happens to Bolton & Bury I doubt they would be able to play in any league this season.
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Post by LetchworthShrew on Jul 29, 2019 20:44:01 GMT 1
Both clubs should be expelled, with other better run clubs promoted from the national league (not Wrexham). At least it would be a guaranteed 6 points 😂 0 points as the games won't be played
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Post by Stowmarket Shrew on Jul 29, 2019 20:46:36 GMT 1
Just kick them out, this is ridiculous. Sympathy for the fans, of course, to a point, but they enjoyed success on money they couldn't afford so there is a limit to my sympathy, but now it's starting to affect other clubs they need to kick them out. Deadline after deadline like this also makes the EFL look weak too.
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Post by Exkeeper on Jul 29, 2019 20:47:05 GMT 1
Both clubs should be expelled, with other better run clubs promoted from the national league (not Wrexham). I would imagine if that happened then they would just run L1 with 22 clubs this season and wouldn't relegate anyone from L2 and promote 2 as normal. Gives the problem to the National League but would also depend what happens to Bolton & Bury I doubt they would be able to play in any league this season. I think teams in 21st and 22nd would go down as normal and four would come up as normal taking L1 back to 24 teams. Four would need to come up from the Conference to make up the shortfall in L2 unless they decide not to relegate anyone from L2 which would make sense.
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Post by Worthingshrew on Jul 29, 2019 21:18:59 GMT 1
It is totally unfair on the clubs they’re due to play on Saturday and whenever these games might be rearranged. Both clubs knew when the season started so how long are the weak EFL going to give them?
I’m still waiting for Bolton to be punished for failing to fulfill their last fixture from last season, but not holding my breath.
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Post by northwestman on Jul 29, 2019 21:25:30 GMT 1
It is totally unfair on the clubs they’re due to play on Saturday and whenever these games might be rearranged. Both clubs knew when the season started so how long are the weak EFL going to give them? I’m still waiting for Bolton to be punished for failing to fulfill their last fixture from last season, but not holding my breath. The EFL were supposed to be making a decision on Bolton and Bury at 5p.m today. Well over 4 hours later we are still awaiting their ruling!
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Post by LetchworthShrew on Jul 29, 2019 21:38:57 GMT 1
It is totally unfair on the clubs they’re due to play on Saturday and whenever these games might be rearranged. Both clubs knew when the season started so how long are the weak EFL going to give them? I’m still waiting for Bolton to be punished for failing to fulfill their last fixture from last season, but not holding my breath. The EFL were supposed to be making a decision on Bolton and Bury at 5p.m today. Well over 4 hours later we are still awaiting their ruling! The were given until 5pm to provide details to the EFL. If they did then the EFL will need time to evaluate it and then make a decision. I would hope it would be sorted out either way tomorrow.
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Post by northwestman on Jul 29, 2019 21:46:40 GMT 1
The EFL were supposed to be making a decision on Bolton and Bury at 5p.m today. Well over 4 hours later we are still awaiting their ruling! The were given until 5pm to provide details to the EFL. If they did then the EFL will need time to evaluate it and then make a decision. I would hope it would be sorted out either way tomorrow. They must have been given details at the very last minute then. The original deadline of 12 noon for Bury had already been extended by 5 hours. And if the details haven't been provided, then the EFL needs to get on with it if only to be fair to the fans of Wycombe and MK Dons.
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Post by LetchworthShrew on Jul 29, 2019 21:49:53 GMT 1
The were given until 5pm to provide details to the EFL. If they did then the EFL will need time to evaluate it and then make a decision. I would hope it would be sorted out either way tomorrow. They must have been given details at the very last minute then. The original deadline of 12 noon for Bury had already been extended by 5 hours. And if the details haven't been provided, then the EFL needs to get on with it if only to be fair to the fans of Wycombe and MK Dons. Just as I posted that a statement from the EFL appeared!!
Bolton game ON, Bury game OFF .... have a deadline on Friday to determine of their next game is off too.
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Post by northwestman on Jul 29, 2019 21:50:54 GMT 1
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Post by philharvey on Jul 29, 2019 22:13:02 GMT 1
They must have been given details at the very last minute then. The original deadline of 12 noon for Bury had already been extended by 5 hours. And if the details haven't been provided, then the EFL needs to get on with it if only to be fair to the fans of Wycombe and MK Dons. Just as I posted that a statement from the EFL appeared!!
Bolton game ON, Bury game OFF .... have a deadline on Friday to determine of their next game is off too.
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Post by philharvey on Jul 29, 2019 22:13:57 GMT 1
It's taking the p**s to a new level !!!
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Post by Red Rose In Exile on Jul 29, 2019 22:15:22 GMT 1
It's taking the p**s to a new level !!! Why? They have complied with the rules.
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Post by venceremos on Jul 29, 2019 22:19:46 GMT 1
Our game at MK will be their first game of the season then. Slight advantage for us, perhaps.
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