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Post by northwestman on Oct 18, 2019 22:17:45 GMT 1
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Post by northwestman on Oct 21, 2019 17:20:41 GMT 1
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Post by northwestman on Oct 22, 2019 14:59:39 GMT 1
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Post by ssshrew on Oct 22, 2019 15:10:34 GMT 1
Better late than never but better never late as they say.
Can someone tell me please what would have happened if someone took over a club and then was found unfit after ten days? What a bizarre way to carry on - but as I’ve said before - what do I know!?
Of course in Bury’s case the unfit person was just allowed to carry on regardless.
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Post by northwestman on Oct 22, 2019 15:13:23 GMT 1
In a heated exchange, Debbie Jevans, the EFL's executive chair, was told by committee chair Damian Collins that "Bury fans will think the EFL failed in its duty." Collins, the Tory MP, asked Jevans if any auditing was done to ensure estimated turnover figures provided by clubs are accurate. It appears not.
"I find it astonishing you don’t know," he adds. "The situation with Bury is one that is immensely regretful," Jevans said.
Earlier, the Forever Bury fans group had used parliamentary privilege to name an alleged conflict of interest between two officials involved in the club's demise who had hidden they fact they were brother-in-laws.
Collins said afterwards that the Commons inquiry "has it made clear that people profited a lot over Bury's demise". "Someone took £1 million away from Bury FC in 'brokerage fees'" he tweeted.
Daily Telegraph.
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Post by ssshrew on Oct 22, 2019 15:27:22 GMT 1
I hope Ms fagin reminded them that she woke up worrying about Bury every morning - Pah!!!
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Post by LetchworthShrew on Oct 25, 2019 16:57:12 GMT 1
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Post by northwestman on Oct 25, 2019 17:09:31 GMT 1
The ramblings of a total delusionist.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Oct 25, 2019 17:15:23 GMT 1
The ramblings of a total delusionist. Indeed. I wonder what the genuine Bury supporters think of such ramblings and are they going down the pheonix club route to get themselves up and running again regardless?
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Post by northwestman on Oct 25, 2019 17:27:51 GMT 1
This is a response from a Bury fan to Dale's statement:-
"The worry is other clubs and fans may read it, as it's on our "official" website and take it at face value, when those other clubs/fans could be supporting our phoenix. How many outside Bury REALLY know what's gone on?"
To which I've replied:-
" don't worry. There are 41 pages and counting on Bury on the Shrewsbury Town website. Everyone on here knows exactly what's been going on. It's very detailed".
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Post by northwestman on Oct 25, 2019 20:28:30 GMT 1
A plea from another Bury fan:-
"The BBC are now repeating this garbage. Can no one access the website ( by any means possible) and take this defunct website down. It’s serving no use except give Dale a public mouthpiece for his inane rantings, supposedly in the name Of Bury FC".
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Post by South Stand Salopian on Oct 28, 2019 14:23:57 GMT 1
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Post by northwestman on Oct 28, 2019 18:26:00 GMT 1
Thank goodness Kenwright was prevented from doing this. Bury don't deserve a penny to bale them out with regard to their failings over the years.
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Post by haughmond on Oct 28, 2019 20:14:31 GMT 1
fagin to Wrexham MP Lucas, “ what I do know is that lessons need to be learned from this.” Brilliant, nearly every organisation that finds that it has failed its stakeholders always reply to any criticism, “ lessons need to be learned” . The same weak, business speak garbage which means nothing. No apologies, no recognition of failure just complete garbage.
I wonder iffagin is any relation to a certain former member of this board of the same name?? No, surely not!
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Post by South Stand Salopian on Oct 30, 2019 14:44:24 GMT 1
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Post by northwestman on Oct 30, 2019 19:18:50 GMT 1
Nothing surprises me anymore.
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Post by Minormorris64 on Oct 31, 2019 11:35:19 GMT 1
Talk a bout a load of old cobblers if they are not paying people, then they are obviously not processing their payroll so they will have NO liability (for now) to the Tax and NI because of non processing it won't exist
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Post by northwestman on Oct 31, 2019 13:23:34 GMT 1
Talk a bout a load of old cobblers if they are not paying people, then they are obviously not processing their payroll so they will have NO liability (for now) to the Tax and NI because of non processing it won't exist Trouble is, the present WUP only includes a claim for unpaid tax made by HMRC for tax not paid SINCE the CVA. Any tax owed to HMRC earlier is supposed to have been covered by the CVA, which everyone knows that Dale won't pay. But the 1st instalment of that CVA is not due to be paid until January 2020, so Bury keeps going until the inevitable CVA default takes place, at which point they are finally likely to be liquidated. The present WUP is almost certain to be dismissed.
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Post by northwestman on Oct 31, 2019 13:40:33 GMT 1
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Post by northwestman on Nov 5, 2019 15:57:25 GMT 1
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Post by wakemanender on Nov 5, 2019 16:25:29 GMT 1
Full marks to the Groundsman who continues to maintain the pitch. When these things happen to a football club you tend to forget some of the people in the background who it really affects. Obviously means nothing to Mr Dale. Reading Colin Murrays excellent article brought back memories of the excellent groundsmen we had at the Gay Meadow. Not many groundsmen in the country had to do what they had to do to get a pitch playable. A real labour of love. When you read about people like this you do hope that one day he will be rewarded by seeing football again on his pitch at whatever level it may be. Good luck to him.
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Post by northwestman on Nov 5, 2019 16:34:52 GMT 1
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Post by staffordshrew on Nov 5, 2019 17:06:40 GMT 1
Full marks to the Groundsman who continues to maintain the pitch. When these things happen to a football club you tend to forget some of the people in the background who it really affects. Obviously means nothing to Mr Dale. Reading Colin Murrays excellent article brought back memories of the excellent groundsmen we had at the Gay Meadow. Not many groundsmen in the country had to do what they had to do to get a pitch playable. A real labour of love. When you read about people like this you do hope that one day he will be rewarded by seeing football again on his pitch at whatever level it may be. Good luck to him. Pity that Dale/club web site is using "pitch in great shape, ready to play as soon as the HMRC case is dropped". taking advantage of the Groundsman's goodwill.
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Post by LetchworthShrew on Nov 6, 2019 20:38:14 GMT 1
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Post by Mortgagehound on Nov 6, 2019 21:12:04 GMT 1
Poorly written blurb from Mr Collins but some good points made.
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Post by northwestman on Nov 23, 2019 10:48:09 GMT 1
LABOUR today confirmed that it would conduct a review of the “fit and proper” club ownership criteria in football after financial mismanagement led to the exit of Bury FC from the English Football League.
The Labour Party manifesto, launched in Birmingham today, commits to make sport “accessible and run in the interests of those who participate in it and love it.”
It states that football in particular “has become divided between the extremes of the very rich and the very poor with clubs in Bury and Bolton facing collapse.”
Bury FC almost collapsed and was expelled from the English Football League in August due to financial difficulties, despite owner Steve Dale passing the English Football League’s owners’ and directors’ test.
EFL executive chair Debbie Jevans has since told MPs that evidence of the source and sustainability of funding for Bury were not provided by Dale, while Football Association chairman Greg Clarke admitted he only spoke to the owner after the club had been expelled.
Bolton Wanderers barely remained in League One this season after former owner Ken Anderson risked its financial collapse and according to administrators, “used his position as a secured creditor to hamper and frustrate any deal that did not benefit him or suit his purposes.”
The manifesto says: “A Labour government will examine the state of the game, its governance and regulation, its ownership rules and the support and funding of the clubs that are vital to local communities.”
It commits the party to a review of the takeover criteria for club owners and directors and “ensure that supporters’ trusts have a proper role so that the professional game is properly run for all its fans and all its clubs.”
This would partly involve giving accredited trusts the right to appoint and remove at least two club directors and purchase shares when clubs change hands.
The manifesto also backs up recent pledges by Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn to ensure that a proportion of Premier League television-rights income is spent on grassroots football facilities and that the Cricket World Cup — currently shown on Sky Sports — would be free-to-air.
It also confirms the party’s intention to legalise safe standing at Premier League and Championship football matches, after shadow sports minister Rosena Allin-Khan said last month that she would “personally ensure that safe standing is introduced in time for the 2020/21 football season” if Labour comes to power.
The manifesto states that the party would also commission an independent review into discrimination in sport and would curb gambling advertising, establish gambling limits, a levy for problem-gambling funding and mechanisms for consumer compensation.
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Post by Pilch on Nov 23, 2019 11:18:27 GMT 1
LABOUR today confirmed that it would conduct a review of the “fit and proper” club ownership criteria in football after financial mismanagement led to the exit of Bury FC from the English Football League. The Labour Party manifesto, launched in Birmingham today, commits to make sport “accessible and run in the interests of those who participate in it and love it.” It states that football in particular “has become divided between the extremes of the very rich and the very poor with clubs in Bury and Bolton facing collapse.” Bury FC almost collapsed and was expelled from the English Football League in August due to financial difficulties, despite owner Steve Dale passing the English Football League’s owners’ and directors’ test. EFL executive chair Debbie Jevans has since told MPs that evidence of the source and sustainability of funding for Bury were not provided by Dale, while Football Association chairman Greg Clarke admitted he only spoke to the owner after the club had been expelled. Bolton Wanderers barely remained in League One this season after former owner Ken Anderson risked its financial collapse and according to administrators, “used his position as a secured creditor to hamper and frustrate any deal that did not benefit him or suit his purposes.” The manifesto says: “A Labour government will examine the state of the game, its governance and regulation, its ownership rules and the support and funding of the clubs that are vital to local communities.” It commits the party to a review of the takeover criteria for club owners and directors and “ensure that supporters’ trusts have a proper role so that the professional game is properly run for all its fans and all its clubs.” This would partly involve giving accredited trusts the right to appoint and remove at least two club directors and purchase shares when clubs change hands. The manifesto also backs up recent pledges by Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn to ensure that a proportion of Premier League television-rights income is spent on grassroots football facilities and that the Cricket World Cup — currently shown on Sky Sports — would be free-to-air. It also confirms the party’s intention to legalise safe standing at Premier League and Championship football matches, after shadow sports minister Rosena Allin-Khan said last month that she would “personally ensure that safe standing is introduced in time for the 2020/21 football season” if Labour comes to power. The manifesto states that the party would also commission an independent review into discrimination in sport and would curb gambling advertising, establish gambling limits, a levy for problem-gambling funding and mechanisms for consumer compensation. Wales , golf , Madrid Bury, Moan, Shrewsbury 😜
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Nov 23, 2019 14:09:33 GMT 1
LABOUR today confirmed that it would conduct a review of the “fit and proper” club ownership criteria in football after financial mismanagement led to the exit of Bury FC from the English Football League. The Labour Party manifesto, launched in Birmingham today, commits to make sport “accessible and run in the interests of those who participate in it and love it.” It states that football in particular “has become divided between the extremes of the very rich and the very poor with clubs in Bury and Bolton facing collapse.” Bury FC almost collapsed and was expelled from the English Football League in August due to financial difficulties, despite owner Steve Dale passing the English Football League’s owners’ and directors’ test. EFL executive chair Debbie Jevans has since told MPs that evidence of the source and sustainability of funding for Bury were not provided by Dale, while Football Association chairman Greg Clarke admitted he only spoke to the owner after the club had been expelled. Bolton Wanderers barely remained in League One this season after former owner Ken Anderson risked its financial collapse and according to administrators, “used his position as a secured creditor to hamper and frustrate any deal that did not benefit him or suit his purposes.” The manifesto says: “A Labour government will examine the state of the game, its governance and regulation, its ownership rules and the support and funding of the clubs that are vital to local communities.” It commits the party to a review of the takeover criteria for club owners and directors and “ensure that supporters’ trusts have a proper role so that the professional game is properly run for all its fans and all its clubs.” This would partly involve giving accredited trusts the right to appoint and remove at least two club directors and purchase shares when clubs change hands. The manifesto also backs up recent pledges by Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn to ensure that a proportion of Premier League television-rights income is spent on grassroots football facilities and that the Cricket World Cup — currently shown on Sky Sports — would be free-to-air. It also confirms the party’s intention to legalise safe standing at Premier League and Championship football matches, after shadow sports minister Rosena Allin-Khan said last month that she would “personally ensure that safe standing is introduced in time for the 2020/21 football season” if Labour comes to power. The manifesto states that the party would also commission an independent review into discrimination in sport and would curb gamcbling advertising, establish gambling limits, a levy for problem-gambling funding and mechanisms for consumer compensation. Whilst it well needs looking into by someone/thing that might bring some change to the game it still wont be pursauding me to vote Labour any time soon with that pillock as the leader.
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Post by davycrockett on Nov 23, 2019 14:20:37 GMT 1
LABOUR today confirmed that it would conduct a review of the “fit and proper” club ownership criteria in football after financial mismanagement led to the exit of Bury FC from the English Football League. The Labour Party manifesto, launched in Birmingham today, commits to make sport “accessible and run in the interests of those who participate in it and love it.” It states that football in particular “has become divided between the extremes of the very rich and the very poor with clubs in Bury and Bolton facing collapse.” Bury FC almost collapsed and was expelled from the English Football League in August due to financial difficulties, despite owner Steve Dale passing the English Football League’s owners’ and directors’ test. EFL executive chair Debbie Jevans has since told MPs that evidence of the source and sustainability of funding for Bury were not provided by Dale, while Football Association chairman Greg Clarke admitted he only spoke to the owner after the club had been expelled. Bolton Wanderers barely remained in League One this season after former owner Ken Anderson risked its financial collapse and according to administrators, “used his position as a secured creditor to hamper and frustrate any deal that did not benefit him or suit his purposes.” The manifesto says: “A Labour government will examine the state of the game, its governance and regulation, its ownership rules and the support and funding of the clubs that are vital to local communities.” It commits the party to a review of the takeover criteria for club owners and directors and “ensure that supporters’ trusts have a proper role so that the professional game is properly run for all its fans and all its clubs.” This would partly involve giving accredited trusts the right to appoint and remove at least two club directors and purchase shares when clubs change hands. The manifesto also backs up recent pledges by Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn to ensure that a proportion of Premier League television-rights income is spent on grassroots football facilities and that the Cricket World Cup — currently shown on Sky Sports — would be free-to-air. It also confirms the party’s intention to legalise safe standing at Premier League and Championship football matches, after shadow sports minister Rosena Allin-Khan said last month that she would “personally ensure that safe standing is introduced in time for the 2020/21 football season” if Labour comes to power. The manifesto states that the party would also commission an independent review into discrimination in sport and would curb gamcbling advertising, establish gambling limits, a levy for problem-gambling funding and mechanisms for consumer compensation. Whilst it well needs looking into by someone/thing that might bring some change to the game it still wont be pursauding me to vote Labour any time soon with that pillock as the leader. Did you see Boris's fumbling performance last night? Embarrassing 🐷
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Post by davycrockett on Nov 23, 2019 14:33:55 GMT 1
Sorry, you'll have to explain that comment. I fail to understand it. Gareth Bale held up s flag saying Wales Golf Madrid in that order as his fave interests Pilch us suggesting yours are Bury Moaning Shrewsbury in that order ....
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