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Post by SamHarvey on Apr 24, 2019 12:51:29 GMT 1
Here is a scenario of results that i believe could put us down Please advise if i have got this correct??? This Saturday fixturesAccrington Stanley v Plymouth Argyle (Plymouth win = 50 points) AFC Wimbledon (win = 49 points) v Wycombe Wanderers (stay on 50 points) Fleetwood Town v Bristol Rovers (win = 53 points) Rochdale v Southend United (win = 50 points) Sc***horpe United (win = 49 points) v Bradford City Leaves bottom table as (and this assumes we lose at Cov) Bristol R 53 Salop 50 Wycombe 50 Southend 50 Plymouth 50 Wombles 49 Scunny 49 Walsall# Bradford# Sat 4th MayBradford City v AFC Wimbledon (win = 52 points) Plymouth Argyle v Sc***horpe United (draw = Plym 51 & Scunny 50) Southend United (win = 53 points) v Sunderland Wycombe Wanderers (win = 53 points) v Fleetwood Town Leaves bottom of table as (assuming Salop lose v Walsall) Southend 53 Wycombe 53 Wombles 52 Plymouth 51 Salop 50 Scunny 50 Walsall# Bradford# Thanks for this. I can see now ha ha. Hopefully won’t come to nothing.
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Post by venceremos on Apr 24, 2019 13:30:57 GMT 1
Fair play to Accrington, they obviously have the balls to see the job through that our lot sadly lack. We, and they, have 7 points from out last 5 games, so how are you measuring balls exactly?
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Post by Exkeeper on Apr 24, 2019 14:26:14 GMT 1
THe key for me is Rochdale v Southend.. Southend lose, we are safe as they could only then reach 50 Pts with a vastly inferior GD. A draw and we may still need one more point in the unlikely event of them beating Sunderland in their last game. Southend win, then we may need 2 points to ensure that another club joins Bradford, Walsall and either or both of Sc***horpe/Plymouth as clubs who could not overtake us.
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Post by davewill on Apr 24, 2019 14:55:47 GMT 1
THe key for me is Rochdale v Southend..
Southend lose, we are safe as they could only then reach 50 Pts with a vastly inferior GD.
A draw and we may still need one more point in the unlikely event of them beating Charlton in their last game.
I think you mean Southend v Sunderland in their last game
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Post by scooter on Apr 24, 2019 15:00:16 GMT 1
THe key for me is Rochdale v Southend.. Southend lose, we are safe as they could only then reach 50 Pts with a vastly inferior GD. A draw and we may still need one more point in the unlikely event of them beating Charlton in their last game.
I think you mean Southend v Sunderland in their last game No, if Rochdale beat Southend this week, Southend can’t catch us, due to GD
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Post by davewill on Apr 24, 2019 15:15:07 GMT 1
No, if Rochdale beat Southend this week, Southend can’t catch us, due to GD
Yes i agree with that
My point was just that ExKeeper had Southends last game v Charlton, and i was just pointing out it is actually against Sundeland
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Post by Exkeeper on Apr 24, 2019 15:26:07 GMT 1
No, if Rochdale beat Southend this week, Southend can’t catch us, due to GD
Yes i agree with that
My point was just that ExKeeper had Southends last game v Charlton, and i was just pointing out it is actually against Sundeland
True. Duly corrected, but as stated a win for Dale and we are safe.
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Post by Exkeeper on Apr 24, 2019 15:53:04 GMT 1
We need Sunderland to beat Pompey and Fleetwood so that they are still in with a chance of automatic promotion when they travel to Southend.
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Post by NDG on Apr 24, 2019 17:54:57 GMT 1
In simple terms
we need 2 of these teams to lose on Saturday
Plymouth AFC Wimbledon Sc***horpe Southend
Then we are safe, admit Southend is the team we need to lose the most as their goal difference isn't that far off us.
If they all win we will be 1 point from the drop zone, that's the worst case scenario and if we lose to Coventry it goes to the last weekend.
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Post by chirkshrew on Apr 24, 2019 19:01:18 GMT 1
Can't see us beating Coventry, after watching them against pompey,there strikers far to quick for our slow defenders. Might get a draw if we're lucky, we'll see
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Post by northwestman on Apr 25, 2019 9:09:59 GMT 1
Since January 1st our record has been as follows:-
Home - DLWLDDWLDL - W2 D4 L4 Points 10.
Away - DLDWLLWWL - W3 D2 L4 Points 11.
I must admit, I didn't expect our home record to be worse than our away one. Since the Doncaster game, we have had 1 fortunate win against Wycombe, and everything else has been either draws or losses.
Those 2 away wins at Southend and Gillingham could prove to be absolutely vital.
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Post by chasubel on Apr 26, 2019 11:34:16 GMT 1
At the end of Saturday we will know where we stand before we play Coventry on Sunday..
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Post by northwestman on Apr 26, 2019 12:11:23 GMT 1
At the end of Saturday we will know where we stand before we play Coventry on Sunday.. So let's hope Rochdale, Wycombe, Accrington and Bradford do us proud!
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Post by Worthingshrew on Apr 26, 2019 12:14:16 GMT 1
Wycombe need the point at Wimbledon, just as much as we want them to get it!
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Post by kuffdam72 on Apr 26, 2019 12:37:24 GMT 1
Town gone from 200/1 down to 150/1 for the drop of doom..... well it's only a fiver 🤫
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Post by chasubel on Apr 26, 2019 20:21:51 GMT 1
Also, Wasps play Saracens on the same pitch the day before so it could be quite a mushy pitch..
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Post by Stowmarket Shrew on Apr 26, 2019 20:59:16 GMT 1
Town gone from 200/1 down to 150/1 for the drop of doom..... well it's only a fiver 🤫 The fact that we're 150/1 for the drop says everything you need to know about this thread.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Apr 26, 2019 22:44:56 GMT 1
Town gone from 200/1 down to 150/1 for the drop of doom..... well it's only a fiver 🤫 The fact that we're 150/1 for the drop says everything you need to know about this thread. Absolutely, by this time tomorrow this thread will be long forgotten I’ve every confidence. We will be safe for another year, due mostly down to the ineptitude of several other teams rather than anything we have achieved ourselves. I’ve thought it for several weeks and still feel the same right now. Hopefully we can enjoy Sunday’s game with no real pressure, then look forward to our last game the following week.........
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Post by Exkeeper on Apr 27, 2019 8:58:33 GMT 1
Town gone from 200/1 down to 150/1 for the drop of doom..... well it's only a fiver 🤫 The fact that we're 150/1 for the drop says everything you need to know about this thread. Bet365 now have us at 100-1. If this was the Grand National this would be a rank outsider, not worth a bet. I still remember Foinavon though - romped home whilst all the others screwed up. My Mrs has it in a sweep and I suggested she should risk a few coppers on the 200/1 on offer a few days before the race. Unfortunately she didn’t, but still had the winnings from the sweep.
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Post by northwestman on Apr 27, 2019 9:35:11 GMT 1
Anyone remember the fate of Blackpool in 1977/78? They looked safe in mid table, then an unbelievable sequence of results on the last day condemned them to relegation. Blackpool obtained 37 points, whereas SEVEN teams finished on 38 points. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1977%E2%80%9378_Blackpool_F.C._season
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Apr 27, 2019 9:45:33 GMT 1
The fact that we're 150/1 for the drop says everything you need to know about this thread. ...due mostly down to the ineptitude of several other teams rather than anything we have achieved ourselves. It's been a mad, bad season; up and down big time but to be fair they still have to go out there and earn the points needed to keep us in the division. And where we're at now is about par for us at this level in recent times. Other than last seasons anomaly around the 50 point mark is the norm. We get a win from the last two games we're done better than usual. So this season is no different to the majority at this level in recent seasons. With last season a one off its back to reality and just trying to stay in the league and get consolidated at this level. So they've done alright I suppose; we've gone around the Wrekin to do so, mind but we've stayed up. We get another go at this level next season. Not an easy task looking to the last few seasons so an achievement of sorts. I guess...
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Post by northwestman on Apr 27, 2019 10:31:43 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2019 10:51:19 GMT 1
...due mostly down to the ineptitude of several other teams rather than anything we have achieved ourselves. It's been a mad, bad season; up and down big time but to be fair they still have to go out there and earn the points needed to keep us in the division. And where we're at now is about par for us at this level in recent times. Other than last seasons anomaly around the 50 point mark is the norm. We get a win from the last two games we're done better than usual. So this season is no different to the majority at this level in recent seasons. With last season a one off its back to reality and just trying to stay in the league and get consolidated at this level. So they've done alright I suppose; we've gone around the Wrekin to do so, mind but we've stayed up. We get another go at this level next season. Not an easy task looking to the last few seasons so an achievement of sorts. I guess... Fingers crossed, come August we will start our 5th consecutive league 1 campaign, It’s interesting to look back at our most recent league 1 campaigns and see how we have fared: Season total points league position safe from relegation (points) 2018/19 52 18th +22017/18 87 3rd +37 2016/17 51 18th +2 2015/16 50 20th +4 2013/14 42 23rd R -9 2012/13 55 16th +7 If we take away last season, our performance over the other 5 has seen us average only 49.6 points per season and one relegation. This season we have 50 points with 2 games to go. We are just about holding our own at this level as things stand.
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Post by northwestman on Apr 27, 2019 10:56:18 GMT 1
It's still possible for 5 teams to get 87 points or more this season.
2 already have!
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Post by NDG on Apr 27, 2019 12:57:59 GMT 1
Anyone remember the fate of Blackpool in 1977/78? They looked safe in mid table, then an unbelievable sequence of results on the last day condemned them to relegation. Blackpool obtained 37 points, whereas SEVEN teams finished on 38 points. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1977%E2%80%9378_Blackpool_F.C._seasonI'm thinking back to the 3 games to go Saturday in the Kevin Radcliffe season, all 4 teams below us won and we lost. The worry in today's game is every single team we need to lose have very winnable games. 100/1 odds is madness in my view as it really isn't impossible for the club's on 46 and 47 points to get 3 points in today's games.
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Post by cheggersdrinkspop on Apr 27, 2019 13:27:55 GMT 1
It's been a mad, bad season; up and down big time but to be fair they still have to go out there and earn the points needed to keep us in the division. And where we're at now is about par for us at this level in recent times. Other than last seasons anomaly around the 50 point mark is the norm. We get a win from the last two games we're done better than usual. So this season is no different to the majority at this level in recent seasons. With last season a one off its back to reality and just trying to stay in the league and get consolidated at this level. So they've done alright I suppose; we've gone around the Wrekin to do so, mind but we've stayed up. We get another go at this level next season. Not an easy task looking to the last few seasons so an achievement of sorts. I guess... Fingers crossed, come August we will start our 5th consecutive league 1 campaign, It’s interesting to look back at our most recent league 1 campaigns and see how we have fared: Season total points league position safe from relegation (points) 2018/19 2017/18 87 3rd +37 2016/17 51 18th +2 2015/16 50 20th +4 2013/14 42 23rd R -9 2012/13 55 16th +7 If we take away last season, our performance over the other 5 has seen us average only 49.6 points per season and one relegation. This season we have 50 points with 2 games to go. We are just about holding our own at this level as things stand. It just goes to show that the delusional threads about us being a top half or play off team have little or no substance as yet. Good post
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Post by harboroughshrew on Apr 27, 2019 14:52:20 GMT 1
Those threads are by no means delusional - last season was no fluke (in fact it could be argued the only fluke about it was the fact we lost out to two ex-premier league sides with massive budgets). Last season just shows what can be done with the right management team in place. It can be done again if we can achieve that and defeatism will never get the team higher up in the table.
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Post by northwestman on Apr 27, 2019 14:55:46 GMT 1
Good luck to Rochdale, Wycombe, Accrington and Bradford this afternoon.
Oh and Sunderland too, as we may need them to beat Southend in their last game, so we want them to be still interested in the automatics!
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Post by cheggersdrinkspop on Apr 27, 2019 14:59:40 GMT 1
Those threads are by no means delusional - last season was no fluke (in fact it could be argued the only fluke about it was the fact we lost out to two ex-premier league sides with massive budgets). Last season just shows what can be done with the right management team in place. It can be done again if we can achieve that and defeatism will never get the team higher up in the table.
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Post by cheggersdrinkspop on Apr 27, 2019 15:01:37 GMT 1
Those threads are by no means delusional - last season was no fluke (in fact it could be argued the only fluke about it was the fact we lost out to two ex-premier league sides with massive budgets). Last season just shows what can be done with the right management team in place. It can be done again if we can achieve that and defeatism will never get the team higher up in the table. I could put forward the argument that 30 years of L1 and L2 football suggests it was a bit of a fluke, along with countless good managers and players.
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