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Post by Ambergambler on Apr 20, 2019 8:06:22 GMT 1
Ideal scenario we’re safe by the Walsall game and there not. We send them down in front of a packed away end.😏
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Post by tvor on Apr 20, 2019 19:19:50 GMT 1
That Accrington v Plymouth game next Saturday is looking huge for both clubs.
It's difficult to see Accrington getting any points from their other two games and Plymouth could be relying on beating Sc***horpe at home on the final day to stay up if they get beat at Accrington.
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Post by northwestman on Apr 20, 2019 19:37:53 GMT 1
Accrington 0 Luton 3. That'll do nicely!
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Post by timshrew75 on Apr 22, 2019 17:18:09 GMT 1
The fact that Plymouth play Sc***horpe last game of the season maybe the only thing that saves us... They can't both get 3 points
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Post by tvor on Apr 22, 2019 17:41:24 GMT 1
Fortunately for us, the games in hand (playing tomorrow) for Accrington and Wimbledon look very likely to end in defeat for those sides.
Next Saturday Plymouth (away at Rochdale) and Sc***horpe (home v Bradford) have winnable games. Wimbledon v Wycombe is another big game next Saturday. Lets hope the results go well for us next Saturday or the game at Coventry could be very tense.
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Post by northwestman on Apr 22, 2019 18:44:21 GMT 1
Looking at the permutations, 51 points looks to be safe. 50 should be, but a horrendous series of results may mean it's not.
As it stands, Bradford and Walsall can't catch us, and one of Plymouth or Sc***horpe can't either whatever results those 2 achieve.
That leaves Southend and AFC Wimbledon as the next best bets. Southend need at least 4 more points from 2 tough fixtures, whilst assuming they lose against Luton tomorrow, AFC Wimbledon would have to win both their remaining games. And if Accrington don't beat Doncaster tomorrow, then they'll need to win the Plymouth game as I don't fancy them to get anything at Portsmouth.
One more point today and this would all be academic. But having watched today's debacle, I think it's reasonable to assume we may not get another point this season, so we'll need results elsewhere to help us.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Apr 22, 2019 19:17:26 GMT 1
Southend need at least 4 more points from 2 tough fixtures... Thanks for the summary!! Would be an absolute kick in the pips to finish below Southend considering we beat them so, so comfortably only a week or two ago. Would sum up the season a treat, mind.
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Post by tvor on Apr 22, 2019 19:31:42 GMT 1
Of the teams still battling to stay up Rochdale and Wimbledon have the best current form (over the last six games). www.soccerstats.com/formtable.asp?league=england3Form: Last 6 matches (HOME AND AWAY) GP W D L GF GA GD Pts 1 Portsmouth 6 6 0 0 15 5 +10 18 2 Oxford Utd 6 5 1 0 11 5 +6 16 3 Charlton 6 5 0 1 12 3 +9 15 4 Barnsley 6 4 1 1 13 8 +5 13 5 Doncaster 6 4 0 2 10 8 +2 12 6 Luton Town 6 3 2 1 14 8 +6 11 7 Sunderland 6 3 2 1 13 8 +5 11 8 Peterborough 6 3 2 1 8 4 +4 11 9 Burton Albion 6 3 1 2 15 9 +6 10 10 Rochdale 6 3 1 2 6 7 -1 10 11 Blackpool 6 2 3 1 10 7 +3 9 12 Wimbledon 6 2 3 1 7 7 0 9 13 Coventry City 6 2 2 2 10 9 +1 8 14 Fleetwood 6 2 2 2 9 9 0 8 15 Gillingham 6 2 2 2 9 9 0 8 16 Shrewsbury 6 2 1 3 8 8 0 7 17 Wycombe 6 2 0 4 6 7 -1 6 18 Bristol Rovers 6 1 2 3 6 10 -4 5 19 Southend Utd 6 1 2 3 6 11 -5 5 20 Accrington 6 1 1 4 3 10 -7 4 21 Plymouth 6 0 2 4 5 14 -9 2 22 Sc***horpe 6 0 2 4 3 13 -10 2 23 Walsall 6 0 1 5 4 11 -7 1 24 Bradford 6 0 1 5 4 12 -8 1
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Post by percy on Apr 22, 2019 20:52:19 GMT 1
I can see this going to the final game of the season, which we will lose, but still be safe.
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Post by Exkeeper on Apr 22, 2019 21:28:18 GMT 1
If Accrington beat Southend we should be ok as we have a better GD by 5 at present. They are unlikely to thrash Sunderland so we just need to keep the score lines respectable in our games. Walsall join Bradford in being unable to catch us now, along with one or maybe both of Plymouth and Scunny.
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Post by tvor on Apr 22, 2019 22:03:22 GMT 1
Accrington don't have Southend to play in their remaining games. Did you mean Plymouth?
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Post by Exkeeper on Apr 22, 2019 22:56:27 GMT 1
Accrington don't have Southend to play in their remaining games. Did you mean Plymouth? Correction - Rochdale v Southend.
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Post by northwestman on Apr 23, 2019 11:15:32 GMT 1
We don't want any upsets tonight.
Luton to beat AFC Wimbledon and Doncaster to beat Accrington.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Apr 23, 2019 11:23:33 GMT 1
We don't want any upsets tonight. Luton to beat AFC Wimbledon and Doncaster to beat Accrington. it is frustrating that we threw safety away and we are back to looking over our shoulder and hoping teams lose .
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Post by northwestman on Apr 23, 2019 11:37:27 GMT 1
Results on Saturday, any one of which will guarantee us staying up:-
Plymouth losing to Accrington, so long as Sc***horpe don't beat Bradford. That would mean neither of them could catch us. Wycombe not losing to AFC Wimbledon. Rochdale beating Southend.
Bradford, Walsall and one of Plymouth and Sc***horpe are already guaranteed to finish below us.
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Post by northwestman on Apr 23, 2019 17:25:50 GMT 1
Bristol Rovers let us down on Sat by losing to Rochdale, which put Rochdale onto 51 points and safe.
Just hope that Rochdale can now remain sufficiently motivated to beat Southend.
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Post by NDG on Apr 23, 2019 22:06:47 GMT 1
I didn't give Stanley or AFC Wimbledon a chance in tonight's games, really could look bad for us by 5pm Saturday if Wimbledon and Plymouth and scunny and Southend win their games. I thought we were safe but had a proper look at the fixtures and think now 51 will be needed.
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Post by tvor on Apr 23, 2019 22:51:06 GMT 1
Fair play to Accrington, they obviously have the balls to see the job through that our lot sadly lack.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Apr 23, 2019 23:10:03 GMT 1
not the results we wanted
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Post by Liam on Apr 24, 2019 5:45:36 GMT 1
It's worth noting that you can currently get Salop to get relegated at odds of 150/1. For the non-gamblers amongst you, that means that if you bet one pound on this outcome, you lose one pound. It also means that:
1) It is exceptionally unlikely that the perfect combination of results to send us down will materialise.
2) There is some exceptional value " disaster insurance" currently on offer from the bookies for those who are genuinely worried about this outcome.
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Post by East Sussex Shrew on Apr 24, 2019 7:13:14 GMT 1
Its a big worry, I could not sleep last night mulling over all the possible results that could happen on Saturday.
I have a feeling that results wont go for us.
But as our wonderful leader has mentioned it is up to us to get over the line.
2 draws and we are safe, if we cant get that against Coventry and Walsall then we deserve to go down.
The players have let the fans down big time this season.
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Post by SamHarvey on Apr 24, 2019 7:22:58 GMT 1
Forgive me if I’m wrong here, but with the fixtures being as they are, I don’t think we can go down. For example, if Wycombe win all there games we would drop down to 18th, if Southend win all there games we drop to 19th, leaving Plymouth and Sc***horpe below us, who have to play each other on the last day of the season. Is that right?
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Post by socrates1974 on Apr 24, 2019 8:48:25 GMT 1
Forgive me if I’m wrong here, but with the fixtures being as they are, I don’t think we can go down. For example, if Wycombe win all there games we would drop down to 18th, if Southend win all there games we drop to 19th, leaving Plymouth and Sc***horpe below us, who have to play each other on the last day of the season. Is that right? Plymouth could get 51 with a win and draw thus finishing above us....
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Apr 24, 2019 8:57:10 GMT 1
The fact that Plymouth play Sc***horpe last game of the season maybe the only thing that saves us... They can't both get 3 points Clinging on to this now more than ever after last nights results. What a mad season this is, I thought we'd be OK by now after those two away wins...
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Post by SamHarvey on Apr 24, 2019 9:01:44 GMT 1
Forgive me if I’m wrong here, but with the fixtures being as they are, I don’t think we can go down. For example, if Wycombe win all there games we would drop down to 18th, if Southend win all there games we drop to 19th, leaving Plymouth and Sc***horpe below us, who have to play each other on the last day of the season. Is that right? Plymouth could get 51 with a win and draw thus finishing above us.... But that would then send Sc***horpe down, as they wouldn’t get above us with less then 4 points. Wimbledon are playing Wycombe. if Wycombe win they go above us, but then Wimbledon can’t. If Wimbledon win, that will send Wycombe below us.
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Post by blamber on Apr 24, 2019 9:12:33 GMT 1
But Wycombe can beat Fleetwood on the final day. Of course we can still go down if we do not pick up another point. I think we may need two points to be sure.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Apr 24, 2019 9:56:16 GMT 1
I'ts good that we are all concerned but I'm 95% certain that we will be safe by 5pm Saturday. And if not we will get the point we need the following day at Coventry.
Been a crap season, the sooner it ends the better. Will still be nice to host Walsall's relegation party the following week, seeing Ipswich flip up big time, and hopefully see Wrexham bottle it in the play offs and Telford not even get there is the best we have to remember the season by.
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Post by davewill on Apr 24, 2019 10:23:03 GMT 1
Here is a scenario of results that i believe could put us down
Please advise if i have got this correct???
This Saturday fixtures
Accrington Stanley v Plymouth Argyle (Plymouth win = 50 points) AFC Wimbledon (win = 49 points) v Wycombe Wanderers (stay on 50 points) Fleetwood Town v Bristol Rovers (win = 53 points) Rochdale v Southend United (win = 50 points) Sc***horpe United (win = 49 points) v Bradford City
Leaves bottom table as (and this assumes we lose at Cov)
Bristol R 53 Salop 50 Wycombe 50 Southend 50 Plymouth 50 Wombles 49 Scunny 49 Walsall# Bradford#
Sat 4th May
Bradford City v AFC Wimbledon (win = 52 points) Plymouth Argyle v Sc***horpe United (draw = Plym 51 & Scunny 50) Southend United (win = 53 points) v Sunderland
Wycombe Wanderers (win = 53 points) v Fleetwood Town
Leaves bottom of table as (assuming Salop lose v Walsall)
Southend 53 Wycombe 53 Wombles 52 Plymouth 51 Salop 50 Scunny 50 Walsall# Bradford#
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Post by zenfootball2 on Apr 24, 2019 11:17:41 GMT 1
It's worth noting that you can currently get Salop to get relegated at odds of 150/1. For the non-gamblers amongst you, that means that if you bet one pound on this outcome, you lose one pound. It also means that: 1) It is exceptionally unlikely that the perfect combination of results to send us down will materialise. 2) There is some exceptional value " disaster insurance" currently on offer from the bookies for those who are genuinely worried about this outcome. it makes a change as apart from last season, we seem to be a favourite for bookies to go down.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Apr 24, 2019 11:21:54 GMT 1
The fact that Plymouth play Sc***horpe last game of the season maybe the only thing that saves us... They can't both get 3 points Clinging on to this now more than ever after last nights results. What a mad season this is, I thought we'd be OK by now after those two away wins... we only have our self's to blame , this season we have been poor and we managed to thrown away so many games. if we are not going to look over our shoulder and hope other teams mess up .we badly need to beat Coventry as if everything is left to rest on the Walsall game , they would love to send us down with them.
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