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Post by philjh on Feb 27, 2019 12:00:23 GMT 1
I know it's a little too soon to be talking about next season, quite obviously let's hit that safety Mark first , but if or when we achieve safety, it's potentially going to be a big rebuilding job again , with us losing Doc,Campbell,it also sounds like we could be losing Grant,and no doubt Fey is already being eyed up by the vultures,and all of the other loans going back , straight away we find ourselves without any strikers, hope not but just a thought.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2019 12:06:36 GMT 1
I know it's a little too soon to be talking about next season, quite obviously let's hit that safety Mark first , but if or when we achieve safety, it's potentially going to be a big rebuilding job again , with us losing Doc,Campbell,it also sounds like we could be losing Grant,and no doubt Fey is already being eyed up by the vultures,and all of the other loans going back , straight away we find ourselves without any strikers, hope not but just a thought. On the flip side of this, we have a core of players to build around. Williams, Haynes, sears, Edwards (fitness dependant), norborn (will only improve at this level), Eisa, Whaleys still got another season in him at this level, grant (do we not have an option of an additional year on grant or is it his option?) Fey up top Yes, there will be a number of signings required but, if you chuck in a good couple of loanees in the Henderson, docherty, Campbell mould and suddenly we have a solid team at this level imo. With the above and if SR can have a summer window and learn from this seasons mistakes, we will have a solid team to compete at league 1 level but first, let’s stay up!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2019 12:08:52 GMT 1
It is too soon to be honest. There is still a lot of work to do before we can guarantee league 1 safety. I just hope it doesn't go down to the wire, my old nerves wont stand it
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2019 12:33:38 GMT 1
I know it's a little too soon to be talking about next season, quite obviously let's hit that safety Mark first , but if or when we achieve safety, it's potentially going to be a big rebuilding job again , with us losing Doc,Campbell,it also sounds like we could be losing Grant,and no doubt Fey is already being eyed up by the vultures,and all of the other loans going back , straight away we find ourselves without any strikers, hope not but just a thought. On the flip side of this, we have a core of players to build around. Williams, Haynes, sears, Edwards (fitness dependant), norborn (will only improve at this level), Eisa, Whaleys still got another season in him at this level, grant (do we not have an option of an additional year on grant or is it his option?) Fey up top Yes, there will be a number of signings required but, if you chuck in a good couple of loanees in the Henderson, docherty, Campbell mould and suddenly we have a solid team at this level imo. With the above and if SR can have a summer window and learn from this seasons mistakes, we will have a solid team to compete at league 1 level but first, let’s stay up! and we might see Brad Walker put in an appearance or two
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Post by martinshrew on Feb 27, 2019 12:47:23 GMT 1
I'd like us to sign quality over quantity and bring through Shelis, Barnett, Mwandwe who can compliment the bench. (One of them has to anyway). I think Sears may be a starter next year potentially. Grant re-signing would be a huge plus!
I feel like we have some good players to build around, be great if we could get a decent keeper and some quality loans in the Docherty, Godfrey, Campbell mould. I wonder if we could secure Campbell for the season considering Stoke have just spent £8m on a striker and have Afobe and Berahino?
We need a good clear out with Angol, AAH, LJL, Jones at least leaving and Sadler retiring. Arguably Arnold and a couple of other squad players.
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Post by venceremos on Feb 27, 2019 13:55:27 GMT 1
12 more points and I'll think about this.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2019 14:21:46 GMT 1
Reckon 46 will be safe this year
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Post by tvor on Feb 27, 2019 14:23:59 GMT 1
That would be very low, 52 is about the normal points target in this division.
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Post by blueboy62 on Feb 27, 2019 14:25:26 GMT 1
As you say, too early to think about until we know our destiny. But also, the manager now has 13 games to decide who he wants for next season and the players have the chance to stake their claim.
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Post by TheFoz on Feb 27, 2019 15:01:12 GMT 1
I’d love to see us bring Carlton Morris back, on loan with a view to a permanent deal.
With his injury, I think there is a good chance we could have him.
Him and Okenabirhie could be a lethal combination.
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Post by blueboy62 on Feb 27, 2019 16:42:02 GMT 1
I think it possible that apart from Williams, none of our defenders can be certain starters next season in Tier 3.
Keepers: Arnold will surely face stiffer competition. Mitchell: loan and gone. Cooke: out of contract and surely gone.
Defenders: Will depend upon the system Rickets wants to play;
Bolton: May play as a RB but not RWB. Played out of position at LCB.
Sadler: Can't get in a patched up defence. Not looking good for him.
Beckles: Can't get in a patched up defence. Not looking good for him.
Haynes: May not play as a LB but will do as a LWB. Promising player.
Goldbourne: Surely gone.
Sears: May play as RB but not RWB Promising player. Similar to Bolton.
Waterfall: Left him till last as I don't know. Great player to have in your team, until he gets done for pace. But if he had pace he wouldnt be with us. He could become a legend with the right partner.
We seem a bit disjointed all over the pitch with players out of position, don't know our best team and playing a system to try and cover our deficiencies.
It looks like another busy summer.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Feb 27, 2019 16:52:32 GMT 1
Whatever comes about I doubt Ricketts will be afforded the same amounts that Askey were at the start of the season. Don't look about the squad and see to many we could turn in a decent profit to fund a rebuild. As its a rebuild we'll be needing...
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Post by davycrockett on Feb 27, 2019 17:18:55 GMT 1
I know it's a little too soon to be talking about next season, quite obviously let's hit that safety Mark first , but if or when we achieve safety, it's potentially going to be a big rebuilding job again , with us losing Doc,Campbell,it also sounds like we could be losing Grant,and no doubt Fey is already being eyed up by the vultures,and all of the other loans going back , straight away we find ourselves without any strikers, hope not but just a thought. ‘It also sounds like we could be losing Grant’ Have I missed something? Mark Elliot asked him yesterday and his answer was ‘that’s not up to me’ and he reiterated he was enjoying his time here and bonding with the fans......
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Post by percy on Feb 27, 2019 17:19:16 GMT 1
We have a squad of 18 who are under contract for next year.
If Bolton, Sears, Sadler, Whalley and Grant sign extensions then we are up to 23 which is a fairly large squad already for us.
Jones and Angol are clearly surplus to requirements and will have to be paid off to free up spaces; but with Roland wanting to sell up I cannot imagine him reducing the cash balance easily.
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Post by martinshrew on Feb 27, 2019 17:22:42 GMT 1
Whatever comes about I doubt Ricketts will be afforded the same amounts that Askey were at the start of the season. Don't look about the squad and see to many we could turn in a decent profit to fund a rebuild. As its a rebuild we'll be needing... If we repeat the same mistakes of a huge overhaul and buying bulk it'll bite us on the behind again. We need to identify areas early and buy some quality players, not a big bulk of players like Loft, Kennedy & AAH in case of injury.
We should be buying up to 8 players, complimented by 3-4 loans and bring through Shelis, Barnett & Mwandwe to fill the bench.
Of the current crop i'd only really want to keep Williams, Waterfall, Beckles (questionable), Haynes, Sears, Norburn, Edwards, Laurent, Eisa, Okenherbirie. (I've probably missed someone!)
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Post by davycrockett on Feb 27, 2019 17:23:32 GMT 1
Whatever comes about I doubt Ricketts will be afforded the same amounts that Askey were at the start of the season. Don't look about the squad and see to many we could turn in a decent profit to fund a rebuild. As its a rebuild we'll be needing... Your having a laugh! Askey was given a fraction of the money the club made from sales. The club then dressed it up as ‘breaking the transfer record’ and £600,000 spent as if this was a large amount. Just the club trying to get the fans to think we’d thrown everything at it when we in fact only spent a fraction of the money we made doing it on the cheap...
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Post by martinshrew on Feb 27, 2019 17:24:54 GMT 1
Whatever comes about I doubt Ricketts will be afforded the same amounts that Askey were at the start of the season. Don't look about the squad and see to many we could turn in a decent profit to fund a rebuild. As its a rebuild we'll be needing... Your having a laugh! Askey was given a fraction of the money the club made from sales. The club then dressed it up as ‘breaking the transfer record’ and £600,000 spent as if this was a large amount. Just the club trying to get the fans to think we’d thrown everything at it when we in fact only spent a fraction of the money we made doing it on the cheap... It was about 15%, if that. Pathetic really, and when you realise it's £600k spread across loads of players it's peanuts per transfer really.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Feb 27, 2019 17:50:50 GMT 1
Whatever comes about I doubt Ricketts will be afforded the same amounts that Askey were at the start of the season. Don't look about the squad and see to many we could turn in a decent profit to fund a rebuild. As its a rebuild we'll be needing... Your having a laugh! Askey was given a fraction of the money the club made from sales. The club then dressed it up as ‘breaking the transfer record’ and £600,000 spent as if this was a large amount. Just the club trying to get the fans to think we’d thrown everything at it when we in fact only spent a fraction of the money we made doing it on the cheap... So that would mean Ricketts will be given (at the very least) the same amounts and we're in a good position to break our transfer record again this coming summer. Cool...
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Post by davycrockett on Feb 27, 2019 17:54:44 GMT 1
Your having a laugh! Askey was given a fraction of the money the club made from sales. The club then dressed it up as ‘breaking the transfer record’ and £600,000 spent as if this was a large amount. Just the club trying to get the fans to think we’d thrown everything at it when we in fact only spent a fraction of the money we made doing it on the cheap... So that would mean Ricketts will be given (at the very least) the same amounts and we're in a good position to break our transfer record again this coming summer. Cool... wouldn’t go that far 😂
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Post by vixenshrew on Feb 27, 2019 18:00:11 GMT 1
Whatever comes about I doubt Ricketts will be afforded the same amounts that Askey were at the start of the season. Don't look about the squad and see to many we could turn in a decent profit to fund a rebuild. As its a rebuild we'll be needing... If we repeat the same mistakes of a huge overhaul and buying bulk it'll bite us on the behind again. We need to identify areas early and buy some quality players, not a big bulk of players like Loft, Kennedy & AAH in case of injury.
We should be buying up to 8 players, complimented by 3-4 loans and bring through Shelis, Barnett & Mwandwe to fill the bench.
Of the current crop i'd only really want to keep Williams, Waterfall, Beckles (questionable), Haynes, Sears, Norburn, Edwards, Laurent, Eisa, Okenherbirie. (I've probably missed someone!)
Whalley?
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Post by tvor on Feb 27, 2019 18:09:51 GMT 1
Players out of contract this summer, according to the thread at the top of the page.
Charles-Cook Sadler Sears Bolton Golbourne Whalley Barnett Hughes Loft Grant McAtee John-Lewis
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Post by TheFoz on Feb 27, 2019 18:22:08 GMT 1
Players out of contract this summer, according to the thread at the top of the page. Charles-Cook Sadler Sears Bolton Golbourne Whalley Barnett Hughes Loft Grant McAtee John-Lewis I think we are going to have a problem with Whalley. He is going to be 32 years old in the summer and I question whether the club would offer him a 2 year contract. The main strength of his game is pace and he is inevitably going to slow down now.
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Post by Mr Brightside on Feb 27, 2019 20:26:01 GMT 1
Players out of contract this summer, according to the thread at the top of the page. Charles-Cook Sadler Sears Bolton Golbourne Whalley Barnett Hughes Loft Grant McAtee John-Lewis Hands up, who else had forgotten about poor Doug Loft?
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Post by zenfootball2 on Feb 27, 2019 22:13:04 GMT 1
Players out of contract this summer, according to the thread at the top of the page. Charles-Cook Sadler Sears Bolton Golbourne Whalley Barnett Hughes Loft Grant McAtee John-Lewis Hands up, who else had forgotten about poor Doug Loft? since he is the invisible player unfair as it may seem he is easy to forget but if grant is suspend will he emerge from the shadows.( i also thought he had left) so better put both hands up
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Post by tvor on Feb 27, 2019 22:43:09 GMT 1
Loft is out on loan at Dagenham and Redbridge but he is still our player until the summer.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Feb 27, 2019 23:15:16 GMT 1
Loft is out on loan at Dagenham and Redbridge but he is still our player until the summer. thanks for that i can put my hands down!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2019 0:46:24 GMT 1
Still too soon,
I think Okenabirhie will be sold regardless.
But then again I hope Ricketts goes as well.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Feb 28, 2019 7:48:56 GMT 1
Still too soon, I think Okenabirhie will be sold regardless. But then again I hope Ricketts goes as well. out of the two i would rather ricketts go, but to be fair Ricketts is very inexperienced and has jumped in to the deep end and may surprise us
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Post by wayahead on Feb 28, 2019 9:36:17 GMT 1
I know it's a little too soon to be talking about next season, quite obviously let's hit that safety Mark first , but if or when we achieve safety, it's potentially going to be a big rebuilding job again , with us losing Doc,Campbell,it also sounds like we could be losing Grant,and no doubt Fey is already being eyed up by the vultures,and all of the other loans going back , straight away we find ourselves without any strikers, hope not but just a thought. On the flip side of this, we have a core of players to build around. Williams, Haynes, sears, Edwards (fitness dependant), norborn (will only improve at this level), Eisa, Whaleys still got another season in him at this level, grant (do we not have an option of an additional year on grant or is it his option?) Fey up top Yes, there will be a number of signings required but, if you chuck in a good couple of loanees in the Henderson, docherty, Campbell mould and suddenly we have a solid team at this level imo. With the above and if SR can have a summer window and learn from this seasons mistakes, we will have a solid team to compete at league 1 level but first, let’s stay up! Not a single mention of Laurent, not a core player or one that will be surplus next season with the signing of Walker?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2019 10:22:38 GMT 1
Walker, Edwards and Vincelot.
All will expect to figure next season.
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