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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 16:17:33 GMT 1
IN parts sounds like a man who would like to come back! If a certain individual wasn't here, i'm sure he would. Given a choice of our CEO or the return of Paul Hurst I know who I’d prefer in an instant and I’ll give you a clue - it ain’t Brian Caldwell!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 16:26:13 GMT 1
I agree
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Post by Mr Brightside on Feb 20, 2019 16:48:33 GMT 1
If a certain individual wasn't here, i'm sure he would. Given a choice of our CEO or the return of Paul Hurst I know who I’d prefer in an instant and I’ll give you a clue - it ain’t Brian Caldwell! That does surprise me Hoover. You hide your feelings so well!
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Post by martinshrew on Feb 20, 2019 16:57:47 GMT 1
If a certain individual wasn't here, i'm sure he would. Given a choice of our CEO or the return of Paul Hurst I know who I’d prefer in an instant and I’ll give you a clue - it ain’t Brian Caldwell! He is half decent at distracting the masses but not all of us
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Post by venceremos on Feb 20, 2019 17:44:11 GMT 1
Given a choice of our CEO or the return of Paul Hurst I know who I’d prefer in an instant and I’ll give you a clue - it ain’t Brian Caldwell! He is half decent at distracting the masses but not all of us You're so smart!
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Post by martinshrew on Feb 20, 2019 17:51:02 GMT 1
He is half decent at distracting the masses but not all of us You're so smart! Just well informed.
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Post by tvor on Feb 20, 2019 18:36:11 GMT 1
You're just a coward.
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Post by Chief Inspector Swan on Feb 20, 2019 18:53:19 GMT 1
Bosh!
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Post by martinshrew on Feb 20, 2019 21:10:38 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 21:18:39 GMT 1
If a certain individual wasn't here, i'm sure he would. Given a choice of our CEO or the return of Paul Hurst I know who I’d prefer in an instant and I’ll give you a clue - it ain’t Brian Caldwell! Really? I find that interesting. Even if it was to the detriment of the Club?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 21:55:17 GMT 1
Given a choice of our CEO or the return of Paul Hurst I know who I’d prefer in an instant and I’ll give you a clue - it ain’t Brian Caldwell! Really? I find that interesting. Even if it was to the detriment of the Club? I reckon League 2 football next season plus the falling crowds and season ticket sales that will bring is pretty detrimental. If it was Brian Caldwell's decision to block the return of PH then that's certainly my idea of detriment.
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Post by stfcfan87 on Feb 20, 2019 22:00:32 GMT 1
Really? I find that interesting. Even if it was to the detriment of the Club? I reckon League 2 football next season plus the falling crowds and season ticket sales that will bring is pretty detrimental. If it was Brian Caldwell's decision to block the return of PH then that's certainly my idea of detriment. I really liked Hurst spell in charge. Yes I was a bit upset that he left in the way that he did, but I understood it. But I'm finding it a bit bizarre the way that certain people seem to have decided that it's a fact that Hurst was offered the job, wanted to come back and that our CEO is the only person who has refused him coming back - where is the proof any of those things happened? Even Hurst hasn't said anything that supports this and he's just done an hour and a half podcast interview
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 22:01:56 GMT 1
Really? I find that interesting. Even if it was to the detriment of the Club? I reckon League 2 football next season plus the falling crowds and season ticket sales that will bring is pretty detrimental. If it was Brian Caldwell's decision to block the return of PH then that's certainly my idea of detriment. Off field developments have a longer term benefit. Don't underestimate the good the SP has done with the help of the CEO, for example.
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Post by Mr Brightside on Feb 20, 2019 22:50:10 GMT 1
I reckon League 2 football next season plus the falling crowds and season ticket sales that will bring is pretty detrimental. If it was Brian Caldwell's decision to block the return of PH then that's certainly my idea of detriment. I really liked Hurst spell in charge. Yes I was a bit upset that he left in the way that he did, but I understood it. But I'm finding it a bit bizarre the way that certain people seem to have decided that it's a fact that Hurst was offered the job, wanted to come back and that our CEO is the only person who has refused him coming back - where is the proof any of those things happened? Even Hurst hasn't said anything that supports this and he's just done an hour and a half podcast interview Don't let the facts get in the way of a good story and moan now!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2019 8:08:05 GMT 1
Hence the use of the word ‘if’ .
Even if he didn’t block the re-appointment of PH then if he was partly responsible for the appointment of Rickets then his legacy is spoiled. Take Hurst out of the equation there must’ve been better options to bring in.
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Post by martinshrew on Feb 21, 2019 10:57:32 GMT 1
Hence the use of the word ‘if’ . Even if he didn’t block the re-appointment of PH then if he was partly responsible for the appointment of Rickets then his legacy is spoiled. Take Hurst out of the equation there must’ve been better options to bring in. There were plenty with a lot less risk than a guy who'd never managed a League fixture put it that way. Add to the fact he'd only managed a handful of non-league games and it looks even worse. At least Askey had vast experience, albeit in the conference.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Feb 21, 2019 11:26:31 GMT 1
I enjoyed listening to Hurst.
If Hurst inherited this squad at the time Ricketts did we would be in mid table with half an eye on the play offs.
9 points from a possible 36 is nothing short of a disaster, especially coming off the back of six wins in seven for Coyne.
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Post by greeny on Feb 21, 2019 11:28:17 GMT 1
Hence the use of the word ‘if’ . Even if he didn’t block the re-appointment of PH then if he was partly responsible for the appointment of Rickets then his legacy is spoiled. Take Hurst out of the equation there must’ve been better options to bring in. We were linked with Bowyer and Flynn but neither seemed interested- both would have been a good appointment. Not sure who else was in the frame but there weren’t many names that people were shouting for. Think the real failing is the lack of experience in the coaching structure. I personally think that Caldwell leaving would be terrible for us. He’s done so much good for the club off the field and appears to be fully committed to us. He appointed Hurst. You can see what he wants in a manager- the team around him can be just as important though. After watching Sunderland till I die this week, there seems to be a ‘vision’ and a plan long term which we’ve not always had and there definitely wasn’t at Sunderland. There was a huge change last summer- I reckon most clubs would have struggled so to change the whole hierarchy seems ridiculous.
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Post by Northwest Shrew on Feb 21, 2019 11:49:03 GMT 1
I reckon League 2 football next season plus the falling crowds and season ticket sales that will bring is pretty detrimental. If it was Brian Caldwell's decision to block the return of PH then that's certainly my idea of detriment. Off field developments have a longer term benefit. Don't underestimate the good the SP has done with the help of the CEO, for example. What utter b******s, What’s the point of having safe standing if your playing in the conference with no body to stand in it..?
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Post by Northwest Shrew on Feb 21, 2019 11:51:15 GMT 1
I really liked Hurst spell in charge. Yes I was a bit upset that he left in the way that he did, but I understood it. But I'm finding it a bit bizarre the way that certain people seem to have decided that it's a fact that Hurst was offered the job, wanted to come back and that our CEO is the only person who has refused him coming back - where is the proof any of those things happened? Even Hurst hasn't said anything that supports this and he's just done an hour and a half podcast interview Don't let the facts get in the way of a good story and moan now! Apart from the quote from hurst saying he would consider coming back because of the relationship he had with the chairman. And the CEO’s wife telling Twitter the craic
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Post by martinshrew on Feb 21, 2019 12:08:17 GMT 1
Don't let the facts get in the way of a good story and moan now! Apart from the quote from hurst saying he would consider coming back because of the relationship he had with the chairman. And the CEO’s wife telling Twitter the craic A well timed tweet to deflect attention ...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2019 12:37:08 GMT 1
Off field developments have a longer term benefit. Don't underestimate the good the SP has done with the help of the CEO, for example. What utter b******s, What’s the point of having safe standing if your playing in the conference with no body to stand in it..? Thanks for your considered contribution. There's a bit more to it than safe standing going on, but there you go.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2019 13:00:16 GMT 1
Apart from the quote from hurst saying he would consider coming back because of the relationship he had with the chairman. Where and when did he say that?
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Post by Northwest Shrew on Feb 21, 2019 14:27:30 GMT 1
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Post by Northwest Shrew on Feb 21, 2019 14:28:27 GMT 1
What utter b******s, What’s the point of having safe standing if your playing in the conference with no body to stand in it..? Thanks for your considered contribution. There's a bit more to it than safe standing going on, but there you go. You think the other stuff going on is more important than on the pitch matters?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2019 14:38:32 GMT 1
Fair enough. Hadn't seen that in black and white before.
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Post by ssshrew on Feb 21, 2019 14:49:32 GMT 1
Yes it says he would be interested because of the relationship he had but it doesn’t ask if he thinks the chairman and staff feel they could possibly have the same relationship with him now. Relationships are two way affairs.
It’s all very sad and difficult but there will be staff who felt badly let down. For instance, if it’s true that Danny Coyne had no indication of what was going on, how would he feel about working with PH again? There may well other members of staff who felt let down. What about the remaining players from last season?
It isn’t all that straight forward at all and there is absolutely no guarantee whatsoever that a return would be successful.
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Post by Dale on Feb 21, 2019 16:33:19 GMT 1
I’ll give PH credit... he can always put on a good interview! I hope he’s enjoying his dad duties and walking the dog.
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Post by ssshrew on Feb 21, 2019 16:38:34 GMT 1
Well he did do a media course!!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2019 16:48:18 GMT 1
Its quite entertaining really, last summer Hurst was the devil and everyone was delighted with Caldwell for playing hardball and telling it exactly like it is
Things aren't going so well on the pitch now so some fans want Hurst and are blaming Caldwell for hin not coming back
And who said football fans are fickle
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