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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2019 19:46:53 GMT 1
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Post by SouthStandShrew on Feb 19, 2019 20:09:20 GMT 1
Brings back alot of good and bad memories.
Was fun no doubt about it.
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Post by tvor on Feb 19, 2019 20:11:52 GMT 1
Thanks bicton.
Whilst listening to Hurst is now generally akin to fingernails scraping down a blackboard that was a worthwhile listen overall.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2019 21:22:34 GMT 1
Thanks bicton. Whilst listening to Hurst is now generally akin to fingernails scr@ping down a blackboard that was a worthwhile listen overall. Yep, some of the other stuff was actually more interesting than the Shrews element
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Post by floreatsalopia1 on Feb 19, 2019 21:55:26 GMT 1
Hurst avoided the contact before the play off final question completely. He mentions there were rumours but did not answer the question" did he clear his desk before the final"? Confirmed his slippery snake reputation !
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Post by bellevuesalopian on Feb 19, 2019 22:01:32 GMT 1
So frustrating listening to that. The guy works so hard, his comments about set pieces/setup/fitness just shows what we are currently lacking.
If only those who need to would sort themselves out and give us a chance of staying up. If the chairman listens to that he will be split! Hurst seems to like him!
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Post by tvor on Feb 19, 2019 22:21:22 GMT 1
His response to the final question was interesting. From around 1 hour 24 minutes onwards.
When asked "What's next, what are you looking for, what are you hoping for" his response was.
"I'd like to join a football club where you feel there is a genuine chance of progressing and improving. Where you feel you can have an impact on a club and move it forward".
It seems to me that is exactly what he had at Shrewsbury but he chose to walk away from it. I would imagine any prospective new employer hearing those comments would think the same too and question whether he would do the same again.
Earlier in the interview he also referred to being told before he went to Ipswich just how difficult a job it was. I doubt he would publicly admit it, but I think given the same scenario again he may now choose differently.
He has firmly shot himself in the foot and will now need to eat a big helping of humble pie, rebuild his career from down the ladder, something he admitted himself in the interview, and prove himself worthy of being trusted again.
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Post by martinshrew on Feb 19, 2019 22:24:51 GMT 1
Hurst avoided the contact before the play off final question completely. He mentions there were rumours but did not answer the question" did he clear his desk before the final"? Confirmed his slippery snake reputation ! Incorrect. I thought this myself until recent revelations, Brian span it well.
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Post by Mr Brightside on Feb 19, 2019 22:55:00 GMT 1
Well worth a listen and quite telling with what is said. Agree with tvor's points above.
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Post by tdk on Feb 19, 2019 23:11:22 GMT 1
"Incorrect. I thought this myself until recent revelations, Brian span it well."
Rubbish he was asked outright if he had cleared his desk before the final. A big chance for him to clear his name and help him get his next job. His answer on 1hr 12 m in 14 seconds?
"of course I wanted to win the game" !!!!
and then he changed the topic
Not much doubt in my mind
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Post by martinshrew on Feb 19, 2019 23:18:46 GMT 1
"Incorrect. I thought this myself until recent revelations, Brian span it well." Rubbish he was asked outright if he had cleared his desk before the final. A big chance for him to clear his name and help him get his next job. His answer on 1hr 12 m in 14 seconds? "of course I wanted to win the game" !!!! and then he changed the topic Not much doubt in my mind He did clear it before the final, but not the day before the final as the club would like you to believe. They had plenty more notice than a days notice. Interesting what I've heard on Doig as well, I'm sure others will have heard if I have.
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Post by callum on Feb 19, 2019 23:48:52 GMT 1
"Incorrect. I thought this myself until recent revelations, Brian span it well." Rubbish he was asked outright if he had cleared his desk before the final. A big chance for him to clear his name and help him get his next job. His answer on 1hr 12 m in 14 seconds? "of course I wanted to win the game" !!!! and then he changed the topic Not much doubt in my mind He did clear it before the final, but not the day before the final as the club would like you to believe. They had plenty more notice than a days notice. Interesting what I've heard on Doig as well, I'm sure others will have heard if I have. I've not heard anything, can you elaborate?
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Post by ssshrew on Feb 20, 2019 0:23:46 GMT 1
So frustrating listening to that. The guy works so hard, his comments about set pieces/setup/fitness just shows what we are currently lacking. If only those who need to would sort themselves out and give us a chance of staying up. If the chairman listens to that he will be split! Hurst seems to like him! Likes him so much that he let him down at the most important game for years in the club’s history? No sorry I can’t believe it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 7:54:32 GMT 1
Great listen, thanks for posting. Akin to listening to an ex girlfriend but what a great season it was. I thank him for that at the very least. Timing of his departure sucked and the manner of it but he assembled a great team and we had a fantastic season, and I can’t take that away from him, What interested me was that he said we are realistic about where we should be in the leagues which is flitting between league one and league 2. Depressing but probably true,
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Post by floreatsalopia1 on Feb 20, 2019 8:44:51 GMT 1
"Incorrect. I thought this myself until recent revelations, Brian span it well." Rubbish he was asked outright if he had cleared his desk before the final. A big chance for him to clear his name and help him get his next job. His answer on 1hr 12 m in 14 seconds? "of course I wanted to win the game" !!!! and then he changed the topic Not much doubt in my mind He did clear it before the final, but not the day before the final as the club would like you to believe. They had plenty more notice than a days notice. Interesting what I've heard on Doig as well, I'm sure others will have heard if I have. The fact he cleared his desk showed what the build up would have been before the final..totally distracted from what it should have been. Instead of all the focus been on winning it would have been on part on Hurst leaving. You cant tell me that the performance wasnt crap on the day and nothing like the season had been.
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Post by wakemanender on Feb 20, 2019 8:57:42 GMT 1
At the end of the day he did a fantastic job for us but let Shrewsbury Town and himself down very badly at the end. I am sure with hindsight he wished he had done things differently and left us with his reputation intact. Ipswich did themselves no favours either in the way they dealt with it. Hopefully we wont get relegated this season and can give the Ipswich directors a warm welcome to the Meadow next season.
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Post by blueboy62 on Feb 20, 2019 9:47:57 GMT 1
He did clear it before the final, but not the day before the final as the club would like you to believe. They had plenty more notice than a days notice. Interesting what I've heard on Doig as well, I'm sure others will have heard if I have. The fact he cleared his desk showed what the build up would have been before the final..totally distracted from what it should have been. Instead of all the focus been on winning it would have been on part on Hurst leaving. You cant tell me that the performance wasnt cr@p on the day and nothing like the season had been. We were equally poor against Lincoln at Wembley and a few league games as well, so I don't think you can draw any firm conclusions from that.
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Post by tdk on Feb 20, 2019 10:22:46 GMT 1
"Incorrect. I thought this myself until recent revelations, Brian span it well." Rubbish he was asked outright if he had cleared his desk before the final. A big chance for him to clear his name and help him get his next job. His answer on 1hr 12 m in 14 seconds? "of course I wanted to win the game" !!!! and then he changed the topic Not much doubt in my mind He did clear it before the final, but not the day before the final as the club would like you to believe. They had plenty more notice than a days notice. Interesting what I've heard on Doig as well, I'm sure others will have heard if I have. I think that makes it worse. More time to unsettle the squad. He also said had no approach from Ipswich before the final. If that is true it means he was dumping us whatever. He was a very good Town manager, and I think we all new he was going to go at the end of the season. Shame he couldn't have done it properly and gone with our blessing.
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Post by ssshrew on Feb 20, 2019 10:32:46 GMT 1
He did clear it before the final, but not the day before the final as the club would like you to believe. They had plenty more notice than a days notice. Interesting what I've heard on Doig as well, I'm sure others will have heard if I have. I think that makes it worse. More time to unsettle the squad. He also said had no approach from Ipswich before the final. If that is true it means he was dumping us whatever. He was a very good Town manager, and I think we all new he was going to go at the end of the season. Shame he couldn't have done it properly and gone with our blessing. If he says he’d had no approach and people believe him (I don’t) then Ipswich moved extremely rapidly to get him when they did and I don’t believe that either. Their chairman clearly stated when they sacked their manager that there would not be a new one until after the play off final - if not PH then who was it supposed to be.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Feb 20, 2019 11:04:47 GMT 1
Think it's been long enough now for most and so worth a listen... I've no doubt that he wanted to win at Wembley but I'm still not 100% that he was completely focused on Town at the time and that's because I still find it difficult to believe that the first approach from Ipswich was after the final (which I think he is trying to suggest was the case when he was talking to the chairman at the airport). Haven't we known for some time that Ipswich were in after him way before that? For all the talk of wanting to win you do just feel that with Championship football already in the waiting just whether it meant as much to him as he really believes. A good a season as it was with what went on it's forever tainted with the complete flop at Wembley and Hurst disappearing soon after... And it would seem we're not paying too much more (if any) than Grimsby when it comes to our managers, surprised me that. Thought we would be in a position to do so...maybe that explains things a little bit as to where we are where we are now...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 11:05:52 GMT 1
The gospel according to Brian 🤔
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Post by tdk on Feb 20, 2019 11:18:36 GMT 1
The gospel according to Brian 🤔 No, from Hurst's own mouth
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Post by martinshrew on Feb 20, 2019 11:29:26 GMT 1
The gospel according to Brian 🤔 Oh yes, the messiah!
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Post by martinshrew on Feb 20, 2019 11:30:52 GMT 1
I think that makes it worse. More time to unsettle the squad. He also said had no approach from Ipswich before the final. If that is true it means he was dumping us whatever. He was a very good Town manager, and I think we all new he was going to go at the end of the season. Shame he couldn't have done it properly and gone with our blessing. If he says he’d had no approach and people believe him (I don’t) then Ipswich moved extremely rapidly to get him when they did and I don’t believe that either. Their chairman clearly stated when they sacked their manager that there would not be a new one until after the play off final - if not PH then who was it supposed to be. No saying it didn't, the performance was pathetic, totally with you on that! The club accepted the approach though and the compensation, they could have said to Ipswich "He's yours, but **** off until after the final".
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Post by ssshrew on Feb 20, 2019 12:40:24 GMT 1
I thought all that happened in the days after the final? But I don’t know to be honest.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 13:07:10 GMT 1
Think it's been long enough now for most and so worth a listen... I've no doubt that he wanted to win at Wembley but I'm still not 100% that he was completely focused on Town at the time and that's because I still find it difficult to believe that the first approach from Ipswich was after the final (which I think he is trying to suggest was the case when he was talking to the chairman at the airport). Haven't we known for some time that Ipswich were in after him way before that? For all the talk of wanting to win you do just feel that with Championship football already in the waiting just whether it meant as much to him as he really believes. A good a season as it was with what went on it's forever tainted with the complete flop at Wembley and Hurst disappearing soon after... And it would seem we're not paying too much more (if any) than Grimsby when it comes to our managers, surprised me that. Thought we would be in a position to do so...maybe that explains things a little bit as to where we are where we are now... If we are not going to pay the going rate for a decent manager then we are going to struggle to make an impact on league 1. That's false economy surely?
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Post by venceremos on Feb 20, 2019 13:36:29 GMT 1
Think it's been long enough now for most and so worth a listen... I've no doubt that he wanted to win at Wembley but I'm still not 100% that he was completely focused on Town at the time and that's because I still find it difficult to believe that the first approach from Ipswich was after the final (which I think he is trying to suggest was the case when he was talking to the chairman at the airport). Haven't we known for some time that Ipswich were in after him way before that? For all the talk of wanting to win you do just feel that with Championship football already in the waiting just whether it meant as much to him as he really believes. A good a season as it was with what went on it's forever tainted with the complete flop at Wembley and Hurst disappearing soon after... And it would seem we're not paying too much more (if any) than Grimsby when it comes to our managers, surprised me that. Thought we would be in a position to do so...maybe that explains things a little bit as to where we are where we are now... If we are not going to pay the going rate for a decent manager then we are going to struggle to make an impact on league 1. That's false economy surely? We probably pay the going rate for a club of our size. Should we pay more? It's an easy assumption that we could have got a better manager than those we've had this season. But we're not party to the recruitment process so we don't know who's available, what they say or what they want. We've had a mixed bag of recent managers - 2 successes turned failures (Turner and Mellon), 1 success who didn't stay (Hurst), 1 failure (Askey) and now one who's really struggling. There's no more certainty of success with an experienced manager than with an inexperienced one - why have Oldham recruited Scholes instead of someone with experience? I suspect our managerial record is similar to most other clubs.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 15:39:16 GMT 1
If we are not going to pay the going rate for a decent manager then we are going to struggle to make an impact on league 1. That's false economy surely? We probably pay the going rate for a club of our size. Should we pay more? It's an easy assumption that we could have got a better manager than those we've had this season. But we're not party to the recruitment process so we don't know who's available, what they say or what they want. We've had a mixed bag of recent managers - 2 successes turned failures (Turner and Mellon), 1 success who didn't stay (Hurst), 1 failure (Askey) and now one who's really struggling. There's no more certainty of success with an experienced manager than with an inexperienced one - why have Oldham recruited Scholes instead of someone with experience? I suspect our managerial record is similar to most other clubs. Do we pay the going rate for a club our size? I wish I knew 😊 I only hope that we don't do our management appointments on the cheap, that we don't miss out on preferred candidates due to too rigid a wage structure. As for the relative success or otherwise of our most recent managers, apart from the one off that was last season, the best we have achieved is an annual league 1 survival battle. If that's to be our lot then fair enough but if we do aspire to something better then maybe just maybe we will have to spend more to get the right candidate in place, and yes I know that spending money doesn't automatically guarantee success. How much would we give to have an experienced assistant on board at the moment.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 16:10:09 GMT 1
IN parts sounds like a man who would like to come back!
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Post by martinshrew on Feb 20, 2019 16:11:40 GMT 1
IN parts sounds like a man who would like to come back! If a certain individual wasn't here, i'm sure he would.
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