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Post by Pilch on Feb 17, 2019 8:37:25 GMT 1
I've seen enough
I thought he had a better game but was still awful
first corner they had he ended up on the floor he's big enough to avoid getting hassled but obviously a weak target
another sloppy goal, a cross headed in from 7 yards I thought for a second Arnold was going to take his feet on the floor in an attempt to save it
and when he does get the ball he holds it for ever, any chance of a quick break is not an option
another thing, several times yesterday we crossed a ball only for their keeper to take it
I would imagine we practice these crosses and they are good because in training our keeper doesn't come for them
I'd really like to see the keeper out of curiosity or desperation, whatever, give him a go
ps
Watch port vale v morecambe highlights and compare burtons goal to a port vale effort in the first half
our old friend mark Halstead , seems to make a save that looked harder to do than the Burton goal
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Post by salop81 on Feb 17, 2019 9:01:01 GMT 1
In a nutshell he is s**t, a L2 / NL keeper at best, a bit like half the players JA recruited with the 600k he spent last summer...!
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Post by Mortgagehound on Feb 17, 2019 9:03:57 GMT 1
But Arnold is the least of our problems though......
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 9:10:29 GMT 1
Given Ricketts comments about young players needing a rest I can only assume our 3rd keeper Jonothan Mitchell must be absolutely knackered - not even on the bench
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Post by Pilch on Feb 17, 2019 9:14:37 GMT 1
But Arnold is the least of our problems though...... why is he ? imo the keeper is the most important player on the pitch can be the difference between a win and a lose
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Post by northwestman on Feb 17, 2019 9:19:19 GMT 1
Given Ricketts comments about young players needing a rest I can only assume our 3rd keeper Jonothan Mitchell must be absolutely knackered - not even on the bench Yes, I was surprised at that. Not heard any explanation.
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Post by stfcfan87 on Feb 17, 2019 13:33:33 GMT 1
But Arnold is the least of our problems though...... why is he ? imo the keeper is the most important player on the pitch can be the difference between a win and a lose Considering the amount of goals we concede and general disorganisation in the box that leads to so many of them, I think pilch has a point And why bring in 2 keepers this last window if there was no problem?!
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Post by TheFoz on Feb 17, 2019 15:20:15 GMT 1
Goalkeeper is such a key position.
It’s a knock on effect, if your keeper is s**te, it doesn’t fill your defence with any confidence.
Get rid. He’s not terrible but he isn’t good either.
I wouldn’t want him in goal if we were in League 2, he’s not up to standard.
Take a gamble on Mitchell!!
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Post by pughywasfree on Feb 17, 2019 15:23:59 GMT 1
I think he is OK in our box, not amazing but does his job OK.
His distribution though is truly awful! If he isn't kicking it out he his smashing it low and it hardly reaches the half way line.
Need to see what the new lad is made of.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Feb 17, 2019 17:28:18 GMT 1
i dont know if it is under instructions but he takes ages to kick it out, he goes through this pantomime of throwing the ball but never does and by the time he does kick it the other team are all in place . his distribution is dire and he tends to go long.
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Post by shrewswolf on Feb 17, 2019 18:08:24 GMT 1
Given Ricketts comments about young players needing a rest I can only assume our 3rd keeper Jonothan Mitchell must be absolutely knackered - not even on the bench Yes, I was surprised at that. Not heard any explanation. Lewis Cox asked and Ricketts said he’s just happy to alternate between sub keepers. So, we signed two keepers worse than Arnold that we are rotating on the bench because there’s little to no difference between them. It’s becoming a comedy, it really is....
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Post by stfcfan87 on Feb 17, 2019 19:01:36 GMT 1
Yes, I was surprised at that. Not heard any explanation. Lewis Cox asked and Ricketts said he’s just happy to alternate between sub keepers. So, we signed two keepers worse than Arnold that we are rotating on the bench because there’s little to no difference between them. It’s becoming a comedy, it really is.... Really? When was this? If that's true we've just wasted yet more money unnecessarily
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Post by cheggersdrinkspop on Feb 17, 2019 19:35:20 GMT 1
This is getting a bit exaggerated isn't it, from what I saw yesterday, apart from a couple wayward kicks, he didn't do much wrong, albeit he didn't have a lot to do. Seems like the negativity on here is getting out of hand or will we be discussing Matt Sadlers awful start to the season a couple of years back!! It's amazing what different pictures people see, I know someone who is adamant Whalley is not worthy of a game, but like most opinions on here it is purely a minority.
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Post by northwestman on Feb 17, 2019 19:36:37 GMT 1
Lewis Cox asked and Ricketts said he’s just happy to alternate between sub keepers. So, we signed two keepers worse than Arnold that we are rotating on the bench because there’s little to no difference between them. It’s becoming a comedy, it really is.... Really? When was this? If that's true we've just wasted yet more money unnecessarily Can't see Derby being over impressed either if Mitchell isn't being given games. It looks like he's now been relegated to sometimes being 3rd choice on a rota basis and been given more or less the same rating as Charles Cook.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 20:29:05 GMT 1
He's far from the worst we've seen - and when we have such a fragile defence his goals against record is fairly reasonable.
Very perplexed about the Derby kid - is he injured? Seems odd that he wasn't even on the bench yesterday.
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Post by Scarecrow on Feb 17, 2019 20:37:07 GMT 1
Can we stop this witch-hunt against Arnold? He was brought in as a number 2 and showed significant improvement since he replaced Coleman. He’s not perfect but in the list of achievements often forgotten:
The penalty save against Sc***horpe His wonder stop to deny Wolves at home from the corner His great save against Wimbledon setting up our win later in the match.
Yes he’s not perfect, but since we’ve had so many outstanding goalkeepers over the years it’s a bit harsh to constantly be starting new threads to slag off a goalkeeper brought in as a number 2 yet has shown improvement throughout the season when he’s been called upon. He’s not Deano. Lay off him and stop expecting him to be.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 21:13:54 GMT 1
I take it literally everyone is being rotated from senior centre backs, top goal scorers, wingers, sub keepers the lot.
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Post by Bob Rickerton on Feb 17, 2019 21:24:42 GMT 1
Can we stop this witch-hunt against Arnold? He was brought in as a number 2 and showed significant improvement since he replaced Coleman. He’s not perfect but in the list of achievements often forgotten: The penalty save against Sc***horpe His wonder stop to deny Wolves at home from the corner His great save against Wimbledon setting up our win later in the match. Yes he’s not perfect, but since we’ve had so many outstanding goalkeepers over the years it’s a bit harsh to constantly be starting new threads to slag off a goalkeeper brought in as a number 2 yet has shown improvement throughout the season when he’s been called upon. He’s not Deano. Lay off him and stop expecting him to be. People are critiquing him for perceived poor performances. In much the same way that you've been doing relentlessly towards Askey and the board. It's a forum, lay off and stop expecting it not to be.
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Post by Pilch on Feb 17, 2019 21:48:39 GMT 1
Can we stop this witch-hunt against Arnold? He was brought in as a number 2 and showed significant improvement since he replaced Coleman. He’s not perfect but in the list of achievements often forgotten: The penalty save against Sc***horpe His wonder stop to deny Wolves at home from the corner His great save against Wimbledon setting up our win later in the match. Yes he’s not perfect, but since we’ve had so many outstanding goalkeepers over the years it’s a bit harsh to constantly be starting new threads to slag off a goalkeeper brought in as a number 2 yet has shown improvement throughout the season when he’s been called upon. He’s not Deano. Lay off him and stop expecting him to be. but he is the witch, maybe we could duck him in the mill pond and find out ;-) his record is far worse than Colmans take a look at the league table if you don't believe me re the helder costa save that would be the one where he stayed on his line and watched a 5 footer stroll in and head it point blank right at him
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Post by SeanBroseley on Feb 17, 2019 22:25:35 GMT 1
A team is built on its goalkeeper and centre backs
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Post by chestershrew on Feb 17, 2019 22:26:24 GMT 1
He's far from the worst we've seen - and when we have such a fragile defence his goals against record is fairly reasonable. Very perplexed about the Derby kid - is he injured? Seems odd that he wasn't even on the bench yesterday. I watched the shooting warm up on Saturday where the two sub keepers alternated every 5 shots. (I know it’s not a great indicator) however Cook pulled off some decent saves and the Derby guy looked awful, not interested, and tiny for a keeper.
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Post by Pilch on Feb 17, 2019 23:19:02 GMT 1
He's far from the worst we've seen - and when we have such a fragile defence his goals against record is fairly reasonable. Very perplexed about the Derby kid - is he injured? Seems odd that he wasn't even on the bench yesterday. I watched the shooting warm up on Saturday where the two sub keepers alternated every 5 shots. (I know it’s not a great indicator) however Cook pulled off some decent saves and the Derby guy looked awful, not interested, and tiny for a keeper. that is the problem, that Arnold may actually be the best of the 3 I'd still like to see them get a chance though
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2019 6:46:33 GMT 1
Whatever your opinion of Arnold - he must be safe as houses in the starting XI if there is a fight for who is back up keeper on the bench. Then again maybe its Arnold's turn to be rotated.
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Post by Exkeeper on Feb 19, 2019 14:49:17 GMT 1
This thread should be renamed. The root of the problem is Beccles, who people around me were laughing at on Saturday.
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Post by masshrop on Feb 19, 2019 17:59:39 GMT 1
The above helps nobody everybody & his grandma knows omar suffers mentally just hope the poor lad does’nt read this forum wont do anything for his game thats for sure , sometimes have a moment before posting
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Post by Mortgagehound on Feb 19, 2019 18:05:50 GMT 1
Heard a rumour that Gareth Southgate was at the Monty last Saturday, having a look at Mr Stevo........can anyone confirm?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2019 18:10:45 GMT 1
Heard a rumour that Gareth Southgate was at the Monty last Saturday, having a look at Mr Stevo........can anyone confirm? I can confirm that this rumour is not true.
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Post by Pilch on Feb 19, 2019 20:59:18 GMT 1
The above helps nobody everybody & his grandma knows omar suffers mentally just hope the poor lad does’nt read this forum wont do anything for his game thats for sure , sometimes have a moment before posting lets hope he doesn't read your post then
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Post by tvor on Feb 23, 2019 18:08:49 GMT 1
I wasn't there today but from the commentary it seems that Arnold made a few key saves, like the one right at the death?
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Post by zenfootball2 on Feb 23, 2019 18:16:42 GMT 1
I wasn't there today but from the commentary it seems that Arnold made a few key saves, like the one right at the death? he did but also dropped the ball but fortunately managed to save the follow up shot
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