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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Feb 18, 2019 17:46:32 GMT 1
All those coaches and NO assistant manager, which I still find weird... must be the only club in football league working like that?
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Post by Minormorris64 on Feb 18, 2019 18:09:35 GMT 1
14 games to go and we need 6 wins Does anyone think Mr Ricketts can achieve such a feat? More to the point can the players ?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2019 18:51:22 GMT 1
14 games to go and we need 6 wins Not impossible, but when viewed in the context of us having only won 7 of the first 32 games that really is beginning to look a tall order isn't it?
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Post by criftins on Feb 18, 2019 19:03:21 GMT 1
We need RW to act the only way he’ll do that is by the fans reaction. Askey got the bird very prematurely and Ricketts has led a charmed life so far. Whilst not advocating making a toxic atmosphere we can vote with our feet. For me Doncaster could well be my last game of the season, it’s not just that we are on a poor run of form it’s the boring long ball game we attempting to play that really is making me consider going again until enevitably Ricketts is sacked.
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Post by Mr Brightside on Feb 18, 2019 19:04:10 GMT 1
14 games to go and we need 6 wins Not impossible, but when viewed in the context of us having only won 7 of the first 32 games that really is beginning to look a tall order isn't it? Well, not to put too fine a point on it, yes. We need 6 wins from our next 14 league matches. We've had 2 wins from the last 14 (Plymouth in November, Coventry in December). We've only had 7 wins from 32 matches all season! It's mathematically possible, sure, but I'd suggest there's more chance of a Russian Tycoon coming in and taking over the club!
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Post by venceremos on Feb 18, 2019 19:13:45 GMT 1
We only need 6 wins if we get no more draws. Apart from the probability of no draws in 14 games being very low for any team, we've drawn 12 of 32 already - more than 1 in 3. Another 3-4 draws seem likely, in which case we need 4-5 wins, more realistically.
Hard to see where any wins will come from the way we are at the moment but we're almost acting as though we're down to having only a mathematical hope of survival already.
I'm as bored as anyone else but the notion that we should stay away while the team's in a relegation fight beggars belief.
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Post by Mr Brightside on Feb 18, 2019 19:29:57 GMT 1
I'm as bored as anyone else but the notion that we should stay away while the team's in a relegation fight beggars belief. Absolutely, couldn't agree more. We were flocking to support them doing well last season, are we really that fickle a fanbase, do we really have so many fair weather fans that will walk away this year and not get behind the team? Forget our feelings towards Waterfall, or Norburn, or Whalley, or Coyne, or Ricketts - this is about supporting Shrewsbury Town.
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Post by Mortgagehound on Feb 18, 2019 19:37:00 GMT 1
What do people think if we get stuffed 3 or 4-0 on Saturday?
Will Roly & Co still remain with their heads in the sand?
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Post by northwestman on Feb 18, 2019 19:42:09 GMT 1
It's the same for all the other teams. They'll be needing another 5/6 wins too.
That's why the games at Plymouth, Rochdale and Gillingham are all absolutely vital in not letting the home sides get 3 points.
If we are looking for 6 wins then Wimbledon, Wycombe, Sc***horpe, Oxford and Walsall surely have to be targeted as 5 of them. Then scrape one or 2 draws away, preferably against fellow relegation candidates.
Wild optimism I know. The reality is that we are sinking fast.
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Post by northwestman on Feb 18, 2019 19:46:18 GMT 1
What do people think if we get stuffed 3 or 4-0 on Saturday? Will Roly & Co still remain with their heads in the sand? Can't see anything being done. Most don't expect us to get anything at Peterborough anyway. 0-3 at home to AFC Wimbledon on the other hand....
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Post by zenfootball2 on Feb 18, 2019 19:55:23 GMT 1
What do people think if we get stuffed 3 or 4-0 on Saturday? Will Roly & Co still remain with their heads in the sand? i doubt if they have got there head in the sand , i would imagine having to pay off another manager is probably a factor .
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2019 9:38:18 GMT 1
It's mathematically possible, sure, but I'd suggest there's more chance of a Russian Tycoon coming in and taking over the club! Ah, you've heard then.....
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Post by blueboy62 on Feb 19, 2019 10:08:04 GMT 1
14 games to go and we need 6 wins Does anyone think Mr Ricketts can achieve such a feat? i have more chance of seeing a purple pig flying past my window whilst Cindy Crawford drops in for tea.! [b I'll see you on Sunday Hun. Yours Cindy xxx
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Post by ipswichshrews on Feb 19, 2019 11:19:12 GMT 1
All those coaches and NO assistant manager, which I still find weird... must be the only club in football league working like that? Apart from sacking SR which I don't see happening they could act now and get in an experienced assistant manager in just to guide, support and nurture Ricketts through this difficult period. Flynn at Newport and even Solskjaer at United have an experienced no.2 I think ricketts is here for long term regardless where we are next season. Unfortunately the club have made two unsuccessful appointments and will have to take the 'hit' and stick with Ricketts next season.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2019 11:45:42 GMT 1
We need RW to act the only way he’ll do that is by the fans reaction. br] With respect, that’s possibly the worst idea I’ve ever heard, bearing in mind how stupid and fickle some of the fan base are!
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Post by wakemanender on Feb 19, 2019 11:46:09 GMT 1
Very surprised at the lack of an assistant manager. Apart from someone experienced to bounce ideas off there are bound to be off field problems like there obviously were with Angol that can be taken off the Managers shoulders. Premier League clubs have specialist people employed sometimes on a one to one basis to assist with any problems players may have outside of football. We have two young coaches assisting SR who I assume are there purely to coach. Im sure our explayer Darren Currie gets a lot out of having the experienced Martin Allen as his assistant at Barnet. Ok on second thoughts not a very good example.
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Post by edgmond on Feb 19, 2019 12:11:18 GMT 1
Very surprised at the lack of an assistant manager. Apart from someone experienced to bounce ideas off there are bound to be off field problems like there obviously were with Angol that can be taken off the Managers shoulders. Premier League clubs have specialist people employed sometimes on a one to one basis to assist with any problems players may have outside of football. We have two young coaches assisting SR who I assume are there purely to coach. Im sure our explayer Darren Currie gets a lot out of having the experienced Martin Allen as his assistant at Barnet. Ok on second thoughts not a very good example. What's in a name though? I'd be very surprised if an experienced pro like Danny Coyne couldn't do the things that you mention, even though he does not have the official title of Assistant Manager. John Filan was JA's assistant but I'm not sure what contribution he made. When asked anything probing in an interview he simply said, "That's something you'll have to ask the manager." Chris Doig, however..... So really, it's about people not just titles. I would back DC and ER to be pulling their weight. Of course, whether SR listens is another matter.
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Post by wakemanender on Feb 19, 2019 12:25:35 GMT 1
The Hurst/Doig partnership seemed to work with the players. Lots of rumours about Doigs methods but whatever he was doing it worked. Maybe we could have considered having Doig back as Manager with Hurst as his assistant. Hurst in the background maybe would have been more acceptable to fans.
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Post by greeny on Feb 19, 2019 12:35:03 GMT 1
Very surprised at the lack of an assistant manager. Apart from someone experienced to bounce ideas off there are bound to be off field problems like there obviously were with Angol that can be taken off the Managers shoulders. Premier League clubs have specialist people employed sometimes on a one to one basis to assist with any problems players may have outside of football. We have two young coaches assisting SR who I assume are there purely to coach. Im sure our explayer Darren Currie gets a lot out of having the experienced Martin Allen as his assistant at Barnet. Ok on second thoughts not a very good example. What's in a name though? I'd be very surprised if an experienced pro like Danny Coyne couldn't do the things that you mention, even though he does not have the official title of Assistant Manager. John Filan was JA's assistant but I'm not sure what contribution he made. When asked anything probing in an interview he simply said, "That's something you'll have to ask the manager." Chris Doig, however..... So really, it's about people not just titles. I would back DC and ER to be pulling their weight. Of course, whether SR listens is another matter. Get your point but Askey had managed for a while. SR needs somebody alongside him. It’s not a conincidence that pretty much every club supports an experienced manager like this. Coyne was a GK coach which is different to the day to day coaching and Ramsay was a youth coach. I’m sure both have a good knowledge but they don’t have the same experience with the day to day things- ‘fine margins’ that maybe somebody who’s been there and done it for a good few years could sort out. Wrexham are rumoured to be bringing in Brian Flynn as assistant to Hughes- we’d do well to find somebody with that experience.
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Post by ssshrew on Feb 19, 2019 12:54:59 GMT 1
The Hurst/Doig partnership seemed to work with the players. Lots of rumours about Doigs methods but whatever he was doing it worked. Maybe we could have considered having Doig back as Manager with Hurst as his assistant. Hurst in the background maybe would have been more acceptable to fans. It’s an interesting point. It worked with that group of players but allegedly did not work at Ipswich. I will always be convinced that last season was down to a lot of good coincidences. Right manager (at the time), right back room staff and most importantly a group of men who just gelled as a team. I am sure that doesn’t happen too often. We enjoyed it while it lasted and there’s no saying it won’t happen again some time in the future but for now it’s back to the usual Shrewsbury experiences.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2019 13:39:21 GMT 1
I know I've already said it on another thread but what if Ricketts has said no to the suggestion of an experienced assistant?
Perhaps Ricketts wants to do things his way? Perhaps he is too stubborn to ask for or want help?
If that's the case then what next?
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Post by zenfootball2 on Feb 19, 2019 14:32:17 GMT 1
I know I've already said it on another thread but what if Ricketts has said no to the suggestion of an experienced assistant? Perhaps Ricketts wants to do things his way? Perhaps he is too stubborn to ask for or want help? If that's the case then what next? all good points this is why it should have been made clear at the time of his appointment that an experienced assistant would be part of the package. if it was offered and he said no and we get relegated you would think he will be reminded of that. the responsibility of his appointment is down to the people who appointed him as are a share of the consequences as it is now is to late as it would show the board have lost faith in him but which is more important Ricketts pride or staying up? it feels like i am a helpless passenger in a slow motion train wreck .
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Post by zenfootball2 on Feb 19, 2019 14:37:26 GMT 1
14 games to go and we need 6 wins Does anyone think Mr Ricketts can achieve such a feat? i have more chance of seeing a purple pig flying past my window whilst Cindy Crawford drops in for tea.! by the way i would be deliriously happy to be proved wrong, finding a flying purple pig could be a big problem anyone have Cindy Crawfords number?
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Post by SouthStandShrew on Feb 19, 2019 16:14:25 GMT 1
Haven't beaten Wycombe at home in years have we?
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Feb 19, 2019 16:45:52 GMT 1
Haven't beaten Wycombe at home in years have we? 29th November 1994
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Post by Mr Brightside on Feb 19, 2019 18:08:47 GMT 1
Haven't beaten Wycombe at home in years have we? 29th November 1994 Bloody hell. Didn't realise it was *that* bad.
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Post by accordingtome on Feb 19, 2019 19:27:19 GMT 1
I'm as bored as anyone else but the notion that we should stay away while the team's in a relegation fight beggars belief. Absolutely, couldn't agree more. We were flocking to support them doing well last season, are we really that fickle a fanbase, do we really have so many fair weather fans that will walk away this year and not get behind the team? Forget our feelings towards Waterfall, or Norburn, or Whalley, or Coyne, or Ricketts - this is about supporting Shrewsbury Town. Flocking? Don't recall crowds being significantly up last season even though we were doing ok. Didn't Hurst pick up on this too?
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Post by Mr Brightside on Feb 19, 2019 22:10:18 GMT 1
Absolutely, couldn't agree more. We were flocking to support them doing well last season, are we really that fickle a fanbase, do we really have so many fair weather fans that will walk away this year and not get behind the team? Forget our feelings towards Waterfall, or Norburn, or Whalley, or Coyne, or Ricketts - this is about supporting Shrewsbury Town. Flocking? Don't recall crowds being significantly up last season even though we were doing ok. Didn't Hurst pick up on this too? You're misunderstanding me somewhat. Physically yes the crowds are the same - at present - I meant more in terms of getting behind the club, supporting the team, backing the players. #LoveThisTeam and all that. Lost interest with that pretty quickly didn't we?
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Post by tvor on Feb 19, 2019 22:23:43 GMT 1
Bloody hell. Didn't realise it was *that* bad. A great turn and finish from Deano at the Wakeman End, I can still picture it now.
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Post by northwestman on Feb 19, 2019 23:04:45 GMT 1
After tonight's results, it's still in our own hands.
21st in the table, and there are 3 points between 7 teams, 5 of whom have played a game more than us.
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