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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2019 14:32:46 GMT 1
I have absolutely no problem with LGBT people forming there own group and attending matches together as a sort of social thing nor I think does anyone else. But there seems to be suggestions from some people that if you are gay you might be reluctant to attend a game at STFC this is obvious nonsense as how on earth is anyone at a match going to know you sexuality anyway. Possibly a problem for a not paticularly convincing transsexual but surely not for anyone else. I have not heard any homophobic abuse at a match for decades. There's five pages of posts and explanations. I'm not going to waste my time further if you can't be bothered to read even the last one. I can absolutely assure you the last thing it is is 'nonsense'. Sadly some people just don't get it. I honestly don't think you could have explained it any better.
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Post by Mr Brightside on Feb 14, 2019 14:37:00 GMT 1
There's five pages of posts and explanations. I'm not going to waste my time further if you can't be bothered to read even the last one. I can absolutely assure you the last thing it is is 'nonsense'. Sadly some people just don't get it. I honestly don't think you could have explained it any better. Aye. I think there's also a distinct difference between not understanding and not wanting to understand. Hey ho.
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Post by venceremos on Feb 14, 2019 14:43:31 GMT 1
Sadly some people just don't get it. I honestly don't think you could have explained it any better. Aye. I think there's also a distinct difference between not understanding and not wanting to understand. Hey ho. It's strange isn't it? If I started a group for STFC fans based in North Shropshire, I wonder if that would be questioned as much as this? Would I be told it's not needed, what about South Shropshire, nobody can tell if you're from North Shropshire …..? Some people who profess not to have an issue, seem to want to make an issue …...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2019 19:33:55 GMT 1
Aye. I think there's also a distinct difference between not understanding and not wanting to understand. Hey ho. It's strange isn't it? If I started a group for STFC fans based in North Shropshire, I wonder if that would be questioned as much as this? Would I be told it's not needed, what about South Shropshire, nobody can tell if you're from North Shropshire …..? Some people who profess not to have an issue, seem to want to make an issue …... <iframe width="18.72" height="6.84000000000003" id="MoatPxIOPT0_2682756" scrolling="no" style="border-style: none; left: 15px; top: -5px; width: 18.72px; height: 6.84px; position: absolute; z-index: -9999;"></iframe> <iframe width="18.72" height="6.84000000000003" id="MoatPxIOPT0_20252086" scrolling="no" style="border-style: none; left: 881px; top: -5px; width: 18.72px; height: 6.84px; position: absolute; z-index: -9999;"></iframe> <iframe width="18.72" height="6.84000000000003" id="MoatPxIOPT0_11924997" scrolling="no" style="border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 279px; width: 18.72px; height: 6.84px; position: absolute; z-index: -9999;"></iframe> <iframe width="18.72" height="6.84000000000003" id="MoatPxIOPT0_71471466" scrolling="no" style="border-style: none; left: 881px; top: 279px; width: 18.72px; height: 6.84px; position: absolute; z-index: -9999;"></iframe> Exactly, this is what I was on about up thread.
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Post by Pilch on Feb 15, 2019 3:58:54 GMT 1
Aye. I think there's also a distinct difference between not understanding and not wanting to understand. Hey ho. It's strange isn't it? If I started a group for STFC fans based in North Shropshire, I wonder if that would be questioned as much as this? Would I be told it's not needed, what about South Shropshire, nobody can tell if you're from North Shropshire …..? Some people who profess not to have an issue, seem to want to make an issue …... but that's not the issue the issues here for me is that in the very first post, the chap suggests that homophobic abuse is regular at every game is it ? I've never heard one single comment at the meadow, or even at the old meadow , and that even had the word GAY in it. I cant remember any threads on here mentioning homophobic chants at the meadow why create a group and badges etc when there isn't a problem there ? why go looking for gay footballers when there might not even be any why guess how many there are ? its none of your business anyway what I have heard at the ground is swearing, racist abuse and name calling, sheepshaggers, gyros ,sexist, incest, peodophiles and worse I mean, what exactly do you want ?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2019 7:13:49 GMT 1
It's strange isn't it? If I started a group for STFC fans based in North Shropshire, I wonder if that would be questioned as much as this? Would I be told it's not needed, what about South Shropshire, nobody can tell if you're from North Shropshire …..? Some people who profess not to have an issue, seem to want to make an issue …... what exactly do you want ? For football to be representative of the demographic of the country it is played in.
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Post by Pilch on Feb 15, 2019 7:58:54 GMT 1
what exactly do you want ? For football to be representative of the demographic of the country it is played in. but as I said, first post, after many edits we got this quote "And yet little has been done to curb the regular homophobic abuse heard in English and Welsh Football stadia" its a false statement there have been arrests and banning orders dished out for homophobic chants even if they were meant as childish uneducated banter and they are not regular are they I've never heard one in the news I can only think of Brighton fans getting stereotypically targeted and arrests and banning orders followed no different than block 19 calling fans g***s and other childish stuff as well as fighting and launching missiles what do we do about that ? nothing how ofter do we have to put up with it several times a game, every game all my point is , get yourself a group and you become a target doesn't matter what the group is about, someone will target you sad but true the only solution for this is time why the rush ? ps good luck and re block 19 I've tried to tackle them just made myself a target
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2019 8:09:12 GMT 1
It's strange isn't it? If I started a group for STFC fans based in North Shropshire, I wonder if that would be questioned as much as this? Would I be told it's not needed, what about South Shropshire, nobody can tell if you're from North Shropshire …..? Some people who profess not to have an issue, seem to want to make an issue …... but that's not the issue the issues here for me is that in the very first post, the chap suggests that homophobic abuse is regular at every game is it ? I've never heard one single comment at the meadow, or even at the old meadow , and that even had the word GAY in it. I cant remember any threads on here mentioning homophobic chants at the meadow why create a group and badges etc when there isn't a problem there ? why go looking for gay footballers when there might not even be any why guess how many there are ? its none of your business anyway what I have heard at the ground is swearing, racist abuse and name calling, sheepshaggers, gyros ,sexist, incest, peodophiles and worse I mean, what exactly do you want ? Well there's this little gem. The sort of unthinking causal remark that can annoy, offend, hurt. "Footballers and the fans are a bunch of pansies nowadays " Read more: blueandamber.proboards.com/thread/98794/ricketts-watched-video#ixzz5fa6G7oLE
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2019 8:14:44 GMT 1
but that's not the issue the issues here for me is that in the very first post, the chap suggests that homophobic abuse is regular at every game is it ? I've never heard one single comment at the meadow, or even at the old meadow , and that even had the word GAY in it. I cant remember any threads on here mentioning homophobic chants at the meadow why create a group and badges etc when there isn't a problem there ? why go looking for gay footballers when there might not even be any why guess how many there are ? its none of your business anyway what I have heard at the ground is swearing, racist abuse and name calling, sheepshaggers, gyros ,sexist, incest, peodophiles and worse I mean, what exactly do you want ? Well there's this little gem. The sort of unthinking causal remark that can annoy, offend, hurt. "Footballers and the fans are a bunch of pansies nowadays " Read more: blueandamber.proboards.com/thread/98794/ricketts-watched-video#ixzz5fa6G7oLEWouldn't bother Nicko. Our resident experts have all the anecdotal evidence. Against such insight and wisdom there can be no dispute.
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Post by MartinB on Feb 15, 2019 9:33:18 GMT 1
what exactly do you want ? For football to be representative of the demographic of the country it is played in. I think we can only get to demographic of the area it is played in rather than the Country. Demographics of say East London very different to Shropshire but get the point. I want to get to the point where nobody needs a label. Massive progress made but we have a long way to go in football. I watched a game on Tuesday night. Player was sent off. Ended up walking by him at the end of the game. He used a homophobic comment to a member of his club about the Referee. Nobody challenged him. That shows football still has a major issue
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Post by venceremos on Feb 15, 2019 13:40:14 GMT 1
It's strange isn't it? If I started a group for STFC fans based in North Shropshire, I wonder if that would be questioned as much as this? Would I be told it's not needed, what about South Shropshire, nobody can tell if you're from North Shropshire …..? Some people who profess not to have an issue, seem to want to make an issue …... but that's not the issue the issues here for me is that in the very first post, the chap suggests that homophobic abuse is regular at every game is it ? I've never heard one single comment at the meadow, or even at the old meadow , and that even had the word GAY in it. I cant remember any threads on here mentioning homophobic chants at the meadow why create a group and badges etc when there isn't a problem there ? why go looking for gay footballers when there might not even be any why guess how many there are ? its none of your business anyway what I have heard at the ground is swearing, racist abuse and name calling, sheepshaggers, gyros ,sexist, incest, peodophiles and worse I mean, what exactly do you want ? Gyros? What's bad about them? Just a nice sandwich. It's not one issue though, is it? You say your "one issue" is that you think the OP was wrong to talk about homophobic abuse at grounds because you've never heard any. Everything's fine, no problems at all, based on your lack of anecdotal evidence to the contrary. Not the strongest argument I've come across but ok, let's say that was the one issue. But no, you actually have more: Why create a group etc? Why not? What's wrong with having a group of self-identifying supporters? People do that every time they go a game with their chosen group of friends, with family, with fellow sponsors etc. There are groups everywhere. What's your problem with this one? Would you say the same to the Swedish Shrews? Would you ask them why they need their flag? But you have more issues. You seem to think the group is trying to out gay footballers. Where did that strange notion come from? Why guess how many gay footballers there are? Why not? What does it matter to you that somebody guesses? You could make a guess as to how many footballers have been victims of sexual abuse, how many have criminal convictions or A levels? What's so wrong about guessing how many might be gay? It's none of their business whether a particular footballer's gay or not? Agreed. So why is it any of your business that a bunch of people want to set up an LGBT supporters' group? But the crowning glory is surely that "there might not even be any" gay footballers. How many professional footballers are there in this country - 4,000, 5,000, more? And there might not be a single gay player amongst them? Being charitable, I'll assume you're just messing around when you say that ….. It's almost as though this is a bigger issue for those questioning it than it is for those trying to do something positive. To coin your phrase - "I mean, what exactly do you want ?"
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Post by venceremos on Feb 15, 2019 13:41:08 GMT 1
For football to be representative of the demographic of the country it is played in. I think we can only get to demographic of the area it is played in rather than the Country. Demographics of say East London very different to Shropshire but get the point. I want to get to the point where nobody needs a label. Massive progress made but we have a long way to go in football. I watched a game on Tuesday night. Player was sent off. Ended up walking by him at the end of the game. He used a homophobic comment to a member of his club about the Referee. Nobody challenged him. That shows football still has a major issue Compare and contrast with Joe Root.
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Post by Pilch on Feb 15, 2019 14:31:52 GMT 1
but that's not the issue the issues here for me is that in the very first post, the chap suggests that homophobic abuse is regular at every game is it ? I've never heard one single comment at the meadow, or even at the old meadow , and that even had the word GAY in it. I cant remember any threads on here mentioning homophobic chants at the meadow why create a group and badges etc when there isn't a problem there ? why go looking for gay footballers when there might not even be any why guess how many there are ? its none of your business anyway what I have heard at the ground is swearing, racist abuse and name calling, sheepshaggers, gyros ,sexist, incest, peodophiles and worse I mean, what exactly do you want ? Gyros? What's bad about them? Just a nice sandwich. It's not one issue though, is it? You say your "one issue" is that you think the OP was wrong to talk about homophobic abuse at grounds because you've never heard any. Everything's fine, no problems at all, based on your lack of anecdotal evidence to the contrary. Not the strongest argument I've come across but ok, let's say that was the one issue. But no, you actually have more: Why create a group etc? Why not? What's wrong with having a group of self-identifying supporters? People do that every time they go a game with their chosen group of friends, with family, with fellow sponsors etc. There are groups everywhere. What's your problem with this one? Would you say the same to the Swedish Shrews? Would you ask them why they need their flag? But you have more issues. You seem to think the group is trying to out gay footballers. Where did that strange notion come from? Why guess how many gay footballers there are? Why not? What does it matter to you that somebody guesses? You could make a guess as to how many footballers have been victims of sexual abuse, how many have criminal convictions or A levels? What's so wrong about guessing how many might be gay? It's none of their business whether a particular footballer's gay or not? Agreed. So why is it any of your business that a bunch of people want to set up an LGBT supporters' group? But the crowning glory is surely that "there might not even be any" gay footballers. How many professional footballers are there in this country - 4,000, 5,000, more? And there might not be a single gay player amongst them? Being charitable, I'll assume you're just messing around when you say that ….. It's almost as though this is a bigger issue for those questioning it than it is for those trying to do something positive. To coin your phrase - "I mean, what exactly do you want ?" so how many times have you heard homophobic chants down the meadow ? regular as pointed out early on by the original poster ? ps sorry if the auto correct changed a word to gyros at least it gave you something to get your teeth into
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Post by WATR on Feb 15, 2019 15:23:31 GMT 1
Anyone else remember a bloke screaming stuff like "s**t-stabber" and "****ing bender" at the top of his lungs throughout the entire duration of the game at Telford in pre-season?
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Post by venceremos on Feb 15, 2019 15:53:10 GMT 1
Gyros? What's bad about them? Just a nice sandwich. It's not one issue though, is it? You say your "one issue" is that you think the OP was wrong to talk about homophobic abuse at grounds because you've never heard any. Everything's fine, no problems at all, based on your lack of anecdotal evidence to the contrary. Not the strongest argument I've come across but ok, let's say that was the one issue. But no, you actually have more: Why create a group etc? Why not? What's wrong with having a group of self-identifying supporters? People do that every time they go a game with their chosen group of friends, with family, with fellow sponsors etc. There are groups everywhere. What's your problem with this one? Would you say the same to the Swedish Shrews? Would you ask them why they need their flag? But you have more issues. You seem to think the group is trying to out gay footballers. Where did that strange notion come from? Why guess how many gay footballers there are? Why not? What does it matter to you that somebody guesses? You could make a guess as to how many footballers have been victims of sexual abuse, how many have criminal convictions or A levels? What's so wrong about guessing how many might be gay? It's none of their business whether a particular footballer's gay or not? Agreed. So why is it any of your business that a bunch of people want to set up an LGBT supporters' group? But the crowning glory is surely that "there might not even be any" gay footballers. How many professional footballers are there in this country - 4,000, 5,000, more? And there might not be a single gay player amongst them? Being charitable, I'll assume you're just messing around when you say that ….. It's almost as though this is a bigger issue for those questioning it than it is for those trying to do something positive. To coin your phrase - "I mean, what exactly do you want ?" so how many times have you heard homophobic chants down the meadow ? regular as pointed out early on by the original poster ? ps sorry if the auto correct changed a word to gyros at least it gave you something to get your teeth into I don't log the content of chants so I couldn't tell you what was chanted against Luton, never mind over the years I've been watching. You've heard none so you're disagreeing with one point that you say the OP made, even though a few people on here evidently have heard things. But that isn't your only point is it? And you've ignored my earlier post in which I questioned that. I really don't see the point in getting bogged down in a debate about what may or may not have ever been chanted with someone who leaves the rest of the argument. What's your agenda here? Do you want the OP to agree with you, apologise and ditch the whole idea? Why do you care so much, in such a negative way?
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Post by Mr Brightside on Feb 15, 2019 16:16:15 GMT 1
so how many times have you heard homophobic chants down the meadow ? regular as pointed out early on by the original poster ? What's your agenda here? Do you want the OP to agree with you, apologise and ditch the whole idea? Why do you care so much, in such a negative way? I can assure you that won't be happening. I respect Pilch's opinion if he's personally never heard any comments but I personally disagree based on what I've heard and experienced and what others have commented on during the course of this thread. I think perhaps a lot of us have 'selective hearing' issues at times. And should we get targeted, bring it on - I can wholeheartedly say we won't be bullied and hushed into the shadows by anyone.
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Post by Pilch on Feb 15, 2019 16:36:51 GMT 1
so how many times have you heard homophobic chants down the meadow ? regular as pointed out early on by the original poster ? ps sorry if the auto correct changed a word to gyros at least it gave you something to get your teeth into I don't log the content of chants so I couldn't tell you what was chanted against Luton, never mind over the years I've been watching. You've heard none so you're disagreeing with one point that you say the OP made, even though a few people on here evidently have heard things. But that isn't your only point is it? And you've ignored my earlier post in which I questioned that. I really don't see the point in getting bogged down in a debate about what may or may not have ever been chanted with someone who leaves the rest of the argument. What's your agenda here? Do you want the OP to agree with you, apologise and ditch the whole idea? Why do you care so much, in such a negative way? I've stood up to 'our' fans more than most on here with stuff they have sung about but I cant remember them crossing this line I'd have certainly mentioned it if I had done so I don't cover for them in any way shape or form I've been watching town over 40 years, and homophobic chants are something I've not heard and I refuse to argue about something I don't know and you don't know I mean how many footballers are estimated to be gay , based on an average what is the point ? an average of what exactly ? your average Joe ? what % of millionaires are gay ? I dont have an agenda just an opinion as far as the original poster goes, all I'd say is good luck ( again ) but I don't think there is a problem
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Post by venceremos on Feb 15, 2019 18:12:20 GMT 1
I don't log the content of chants so I couldn't tell you what was chanted against Luton, never mind over the years I've been watching. You've heard none so you're disagreeing with one point that you say the OP made, even though a few people on here evidently have heard things. But that isn't your only point is it? And you've ignored my earlier post in which I questioned that. I really don't see the point in getting bogged down in a debate about what may or may not have ever been chanted with someone who leaves the rest of the argument. What's your agenda here? Do you want the OP to agree with you, apologise and ditch the whole idea? Why do you care so much, in such a negative way? I've stood up to 'our' fans more than most on here with stuff they have sung about but I cant remember them crossing this line I'd have certainly mentioned it if I had done so I don't cover for them in any way shape or form I've been watching town over 40 years, and homophobic chants are something I've not heard and I refuse to argue about something I don't know and you don't know I mean how many footballers are estimated to be gay , based on an average what is the point ? an average of what exactly ? your average Joe ? what % of millionaires are gay ? I dont have an agenda just an opinion as far as the original poster goes, all I'd say is good luck ( again ) but I don't think there is a problem As I said, I don't know what's been said or chanted. I just think narrowing this topic down to the question of whether or not there has ever been any homophobic chanting at the Meadow misses the point by a long, long way. What's the point of thinking that some footballers might be gay? How about normalising the idea of professional footballers being gay (you surely can't believe we're already there), or how about encouraging a young gay footballer who might otherwise be discouraged by the thought that he or she might not be entering the most tolerant of social groups or workplaces? If you're LGBT and telling me there's no issue here at all, then fine. Otherwise, I'm sure you'll understand if I give more weight to the views of those more likely to have direct experience of whether or not there's room for improvement.
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Post by venceremos on Feb 15, 2019 18:14:02 GMT 1
What's your agenda here? Do you want the OP to agree with you, apologise and ditch the whole idea? Why do you care so much, in such a negative way? I can assure you that won't be happening. I respect Pilch's opinion if he's personally never heard any comments but I personally disagree based on what I've heard and experienced and what others have commented on during the course of this thread. I think perhaps a lot of us have 'selective hearing' issues at times. And should we get targeted, bring it on - I can wholeheartedly say we won't be bullied and hushed into the shadows by anyone. Never doubted it - there was a hefty dose of sarcasm in that comment.
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Post by Mr Brightside on Feb 15, 2019 18:30:58 GMT 1
I can assure you that won't be happening. I respect Pilch's opinion if he's personally never heard any comments but I personally disagree based on what I've heard and experienced and what others have commented on during the course of this thread. I think perhaps a lot of us have 'selective hearing' issues at times. And should we get targeted, bring it on - I can wholeheartedly say we won't be bullied and hushed into the shadows by anyone. Never doubted it - there was a hefty dose of sarcasm in that comment. Yeah I know. That was more directed at others, not you
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Post by Dale on Feb 15, 2019 19:08:01 GMT 1
You’ve never heard homophobic chants at a Salop game Pilch? Whenever Brighton would come to Gay Meadow around 20 years ago it used to happen very often, I’ll admit I was young and stupid back then and maybe would sometimes join in these chants without giving it a second thought, probably because at the time I thought it was funny and it was ‘banter’ (I now hate that word as sometimes I see that word as an excuse for bullying). Looking back now I’m ashamed at some of the chants I may have joined in with as a spotty teenager standing by the Riverside buffet. I’m in my late thirties now and like to think I now have a broader outlook on life, I wish the proposed LGBTQ group all the best and look forward to seeing a rainbow draped loggerheads flag at the Meadow.
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Post by Pilch on Feb 16, 2019 9:00:31 GMT 1
You’ve never heard homophobic chants at a Salop game Pilch? Whenever Brighton would come to Gay Meadow around 20 years ago it used to happen very often, I’ll admit I was young and stupid back then and maybe would sometimes join in these chants without giving it a second thought, probably because at the time I thought it was funny and it was ‘banter’ (I now hate that word as sometimes I see that word as an excuse for bullying). Looking back now I’m ashamed at some of the chants I may have joined in with as a spotty teenager standing by the Riverside buffet. I’m in my late thirties now and like to think I now have a broader outlook on life, I wish the proposed LGBTQ group all the best and look forward to seeing a rainbow draped loggerheads flag at the Meadow. but that kind of proves my point dale you've had to go back over 20 years to remember a game, where like I said it was the in joke that all fans from Brighton were gay it was just Brighton , like welsh teams fans all have sex with sheep, and whoever town play the opposition fans are inbreds and appear on Jeremy Kyle every week and most are fat peodaphiles according to block 19 anyway, but even our low lifes have moved on from homophobic chants, which I honestly never heard ( didn't do the 90s so should have said 30 years and not 40) certainly back then like you kind of said you found it a joke, and I dont think anyone singing would class themselves as homophobic either homophobic is a word most people had not heard on until recently, bit like anti-semitism suddenly appeared in our vocab, yes I know someone will come on here and say they knew those words back in 1950 but I think most haven't I just dont think there is a problem at football grounds there are many many bigger issues that need priority I just fear that probing to find a gay footballer might end up badly
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Post by Bob Rickerton on Feb 16, 2019 10:28:10 GMT 1
You’ve never heard homophobic chants at a Salop game Pilch? Whenever Brighton would come to Gay Meadow around 20 years ago it used to happen very often, I’ll admit I was young and stupid back then and maybe would sometimes join in these chants without giving it a second thought, probably because at the time I thought it was funny and it was ‘banter’ (I now hate that word as sometimes I see that word as an excuse for bullying). Looking back now I’m ashamed at some of the chants I may have joined in with as a spotty teenager standing by the Riverside buffet. I’m in my late thirties now and like to think I now have a broader outlook on life, I wish the proposed LGBTQ group all the best and look forward to seeing a rainbow draped loggerheads flag at the Meadow. but that kind of proves my point dale you've had to go back over 20 years to remember a game, where like I said it was the in joke that all fans from Brighton were gay it was just Brighton , like welsh teams fans all have sex with sheep, and whoever town play the opposition fans are inbreds and appear on Jeremy Kyle every week and most are fat peodaphiles according to block 19 anyway, but even our low lifes have moved on from homophobic chants, which I honestly never heard ( didn't do the 90s so should have said 30 years and not 40) certainly back then like you kind of said you found it a joke, and I dont think anyone singing would class themselves as homophobic either homophobic is a word most people had not heard on until recently, bit like anti-semitism suddenly appeared in our vocab, yes I know someone will come on here and say they knew those words back in 1950 but I think most haven't I just dont think there is a problem at football grounds there are many many bigger issues that need priority I just fear that probing to find a gay footballer might end up badly There was certainly nothing that had happened shortly before 1950 that might make people aware of the concept of anti-Semitism.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Feb 16, 2019 12:29:33 GMT 1
Blimey, still going is it. Just to add that although one or two are taking a bit of flack on this thread I do think everyone here is expressing an opinion with the best intentions. Just that people will of course see things a little differently based on their own life experiences...
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Post by Mr Brightside on May 11, 2019 15:51:02 GMT 1
Just a final update (February seems a long time ago!) to say that whilst we're still talking to club officials (and hopefully there'll be some development at or following the Supporter's Parliament on Tuesday), we've got a presence online now for anyone who may be interested -
Twitter: @salopianpride (https://twitter.com/salopianpride) Facebook Page: Proud Salopians (https://www.facebook.com/salopianpride) Email: salopianpride@gmail.com
Early days still, they're more placeholders than anything else, but they're both easy ways to get in touch with the group should anyone want or need to.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2019 7:47:14 GMT 1
Just a final update (February seems a long time ago!) to say that whilst we're still talking to club officials (and hopefully there'll be some development at or following the Supporter's Parliament on Tuesday), we've got a presence online now for anyone who may be interested - Twitter: @salopianpride (https://twitter.com/salopianpride) Facebook Page: Proud Salopians (https://www.facebook.com/salopianpride) Email: salopianpride@gmail.com Early days still, they're more placeholders than anything else, but they're both easy ways to get in touch with the group should anyone want or need to. Following.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2019 12:33:47 GMT 1
Best of luck!!
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Post by SouthStandShrew on May 12, 2019 12:52:33 GMT 1
Just a final update (February seems a long time ago!) to say that whilst we're still talking to club officials (and hopefully there'll be some development at or following the Supporter's Parliament on Tuesday), we've got a presence online now for anyone who may be interested - Twitter: @salopianpride (https://twitter.com/salopianpride) Facebook Page: Proud Salopians (https://www.facebook.com/salopianpride) Email: salopianpride@gmail.com Early days still, they're more placeholders than anything else, but they're both easy ways to get in touch with the group should anyone want or need to. Will follow.
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Post by staffordshrew on May 13, 2019 22:41:24 GMT 1
That would be a bit easier if there'd never been any prejudice or discrimination. Have you had to deal with much of that? i have had to deal with my choices in life, but never felt the need to publicise it, nobody cares to be honest, i lived a life where it was illegal to be gay, and guess what, the person whom i regarded as my best friend was gay, so ****ing what..... who cares.... he is happy, i am happy...... no need to start groups to massage ego's and point out " differences" how about we start a bankers group, or builders group. or railway workers group.... FFS>>>>>> Could it be that fans make homophobic comments but they don't make bankerphobic, builderphobic or even Toryphobic comments?
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