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Post by aghabullogueshrew on Jan 21, 2019 18:08:40 GMT 1
Oh, by the way, this is why I like Bonne! Enjoy!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2019 18:11:35 GMT 1
The opening question was:
"(Why) Don’t we have a striker At the club that’s proven at this level?"
And then people are putting forward a striker from Ayr who has never played in England and a player from Leyton Orient who has scored 7 goals in the football league.....
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Post by aghabullogueshrew on Jan 21, 2019 18:16:50 GMT 1
The opening question was: "(Why) Don’t we have a striker At the club that’s proven at this level?" And then people are putting forward a striker from Ayr who has never played in England and a player from Leyton Orient who has scored 7 goals in the football league..... Because we cannot afford a striker proven at this level! We have two options, look for an older striker who has fallen on hard times and is looking to resurrect his career, or an unproven, hungry forward who could be the next Jamie Vardy. Bit of a balls, but that's the way it is!
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Jan 21, 2019 18:25:08 GMT 1
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Post by philjh on Jan 21, 2019 18:25:08 GMT 1
Would certainly take a younger Andy Mangan .
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Jan 21, 2019 18:34:05 GMT 1
Post by Mr Brightside on Jan 21, 2019 18:34:05 GMT 1
Would certainly take a younger Andy Mangan . Let me just hop in the Delorean...
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Post by martinshrew on Jan 21, 2019 18:42:06 GMT 1
The opening question was: "(Why) Don’t we have a striker At the club that’s proven at this level?" And then people are putting forward a striker from Ayr who has never played in England and a player from Leyton Orient who has scored 7 goals in the football league..... Shankland has 56 in 56. You're telling me he wouldn't have been worth a punt at £250k? We probably spent over £150k on AAH & Angol and they'll be lucky to get 10 between them.
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Jan 21, 2019 18:45:13 GMT 1
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Post by Chief Inspector Swan on Jan 21, 2019 18:45:13 GMT 1
The opening question was: "(Why) Don’t we have a striker At the club that’s proven at this level?" And then people are putting forward a striker from Ayr who has never played in England and a player from Leyton Orient who has scored 7 goals in the football league..... Shankland has 56 in 56. You're telling me he wouldn't have been worth a punt at £250k? We probably spent over £150k on AAH & Angol and they'll be lucky to get 10 between them. Is he a punt or is he proven?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2019 18:50:21 GMT 1
Shankland?
Sadly that boat has well and truly sailed 😕
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Jan 21, 2019 18:55:02 GMT 1
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Post by martinshrew on Jan 21, 2019 18:55:02 GMT 1
Shankland has 56 in 56. You're telling me he wouldn't have been worth a punt at £250k? We probably spent over £150k on AAH & Angol and they'll be lucky to get 10 between them. Is he a punt or is he proven? Proven in the Scottish Championship, a punt at English League One level. No more of a punt than the majority of strikers we've signed in the last 5 years.
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Jan 21, 2019 19:00:21 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2019 19:00:21 GMT 1
The opening question was: "(Why) Don’t we have a striker At the club that’s proven at this level?" And then people are putting forward a striker from Ayr who has never played in England and a player from Leyton Orient who has scored 7 goals in the football league..... Shankland has 56 in 56. You're telling me he wouldn't have been worth a punt at £250k? I'm not sure there are many clubs who would break their transfer record on a 'punt'.
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Post by northwestman on Jan 21, 2019 19:10:04 GMT 1
Shankland has 56 in 56. You're telling me he wouldn't have been worth a punt at £250k? I'm not sure there are many clubs who would break their transfer record on a 'punt'. So Norburn wasn't a punt? Playing in non-league for 3 years for Guiseley, Macclesfield and Tranmere before joining us. And as far as I'm concerned, nothing more than average so far.
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Post by martinshrew on Jan 21, 2019 19:11:33 GMT 1
Shankland has 56 in 56. You're telling me he wouldn't have been worth a punt at £250k? I'm not sure there are many clubs who would break their transfer record on a 'punt'. Anyone is a punt really when you think about it. The person on paper who was practically guaranteed to get us goals didn't, Mr Jamie Cureton. £250k is peanuts for the town, they've reaped in near £5M the last couple of seasons.
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Jan 21, 2019 19:12:03 GMT 1
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Post by martinshrew on Jan 21, 2019 19:12:03 GMT 1
I'm not sure there are many clubs who would break their transfer record on a 'punt'. So Norburn wasn't a punt? Playing in non-league for 3 years for Guiseley, Macclesfield and Tranmere before joining us. And as far as I'm concerned, nothing more than average so far. Exactly.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2019 19:19:25 GMT 1
I'm not sure there are many clubs who would break their transfer record on a 'punt'. So Norburn wasn't a punt? Playing in non-league for 3 years for Guiseley, Macclesfield and Tranmere before joining us. And as far as I'm concerned, nothing more than average so far. Yes you could argue he is (although he has played in league football before), I'm using Martin's terminology and really highlighting the contradiction of people wanting a proven goalscorer at this level, yet listing people who have never played at this level. What people actually mean is they want us to spend money on a striker. And the definition of a punt to me is different dependent on the club. For example Swansea & Sunderland are clubs linked with Shankland, £250k is small fry for them and worth a punt, gamble or whatever you want to call it. For us it would have been a record signing and had it not worked out then people would have been criticising Roland, Brian etc, I doubt many people would have said "oh well, it was worth a gamble".
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Jan 21, 2019 19:22:43 GMT 1
Post by zenfootball2 on Jan 21, 2019 19:22:43 GMT 1
The opening question was: "(Why) Don’t we have a striker At the club that’s proven at this level?" And then people are putting forward a striker from Ayr who has never played in England and a player from Leyton Orient who has scored 7 goals in the football league..... Shankland has 56 in 56. You're telling me he wouldn't have been worth a punt at £250k? We probably spent over £150k on AAH & Angol and they'll be lucky to get 10 between them. i would have loved to have him play for us but i thought they are now asking £600k for him so unfortunately we went with Angol and the Shankland boat has sailed.
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Post by trojanskin on Jan 21, 2019 19:22:56 GMT 1
I would have much preferred breaking our transfer record on Shankland than Norburn (average).
Been banging on about him since pre season & the woeful argument was that he's only scoring in Scotland blah blah blah.
We bought Angol instead.
Nuff said..
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2019 19:23:18 GMT 1
I'm not sure there are many clubs who would break their transfer record on a 'punt'. Anyone is a punt really when you think about it. The person on paper who was practically guaranteed to get us goals didn't, Mr Jamie Cureton. £250k is peanuts for the town, they've reaped in near £5M the last couple of seasons. Our last accounts in March 2018 showed we had a cash reserve of £1million in the bank. Now I don't know what the position is now but all of a sudden £250k doesn't quite look like peanuts.
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Post by northwestman on Jan 21, 2019 19:25:43 GMT 1
So Norburn wasn't a punt? Playing in non-league for 3 years for Guiseley, Macclesfield and Tranmere before joining us. And as far as I'm concerned, nothing more than average so far. Yes you could argue he is (although he has played in league football before), I'm using Martin's terminology and really highlighting the contradiction of people wanting a proven goalscorer at this level, yet listing people who have never played at this level. What people actually mean is they want us to spend money on a striker. And the definition of a punt to me is different dependent on the club. For example Swansea & Sunderland are clubs linked with Shankland, £250k is small fry for them and worth a punt, gamble or whatever you want to call it. For us it would have been a record signing and had it not worked out then people would have been criticising Roland, Brian etc, I doubt many people would have said "oh well, it was worth a gamble". We wasted £100k on John Dungworth, but fans at the time seemed to accept he was worth the gamble, even though he subsequently turned out to be a dud. Trevor Birch, Nathan Elder and Tyrone Barnett are 3 others who come to mind.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jan 21, 2019 19:26:30 GMT 1
I would have much preferred breaking our transfer record on Shankland than Norburn (average). Been banging on about him since pre season & the woeful argument was that he's only scoring in Scotland blah blah blah. We bought Angol instead. Nuff said.. i share you frustration someone mentioned shankland either on this board or in the press and i looked him up and watched his goals on you tube ,he just seems to score from everywhere and was bitterly disappointed when we dropped out of the running for him .
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Post by martinshrew on Jan 21, 2019 19:48:29 GMT 1
Anyone is a punt really when you think about it. The person on paper who was practically guaranteed to get us goals didn't, Mr Jamie Cureton. £250k is peanuts for the town, they've reaped in near £5M the last couple of seasons. Our last accounts in March 2018 showed we had a cash reserve of £1million in the bank. Now I don't know what the position is now but all of a sudden £250k doesn't quite look like peanuts. Not sure if you've been asleep but we've received compensation for Hurst/Doig, £2m for the Ipswich boys, £1m+ for Woods, £300k for Payne, the Lidl money ... £250k is peanuts for the town.
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Jan 21, 2019 19:51:15 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2019 19:51:15 GMT 1
John Dungworth.
He was a prolific scorer for Aldershot, albeit a division below us. If he was around today we wouldn't have a hope in hell of signing him 😕
How times have changed.
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Jan 21, 2019 19:55:53 GMT 1
Post by northwestman on Jan 21, 2019 19:55:53 GMT 1
John Dungworth. He was a prolific scorer for Aldershot, albeit a division below us. If he was around today we wouldn't have a hope in hell of signing him 😕 How times have changed. To be fair, he scored 17 goals in 86 appearances for us, although far from being a success.
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Post by Mortgagehound on Jan 21, 2019 19:56:35 GMT 1
£800,000 in todays money......not sure how we ever afforded Dungworth
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Jan 21, 2019 20:01:04 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2019 20:01:04 GMT 1
John Dungworth. He was a prolific scorer for Aldershot, albeit a division below us. If he was around today we wouldn't have a hope in hell of signing him 😕 How times have changed. To be fair, he scored 17 goals in 86 appearances for us, although far from being a success. and of course that was in division 2, now the championship 😊
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Jan 21, 2019 20:01:35 GMT 1
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Post by philjh on Jan 21, 2019 20:01:35 GMT 1
It was Turner who signed him ,went to a tribunal,
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2019 20:49:27 GMT 1
Our last accounts in March 2018 showed we had a cash reserve of £1million in the bank. Now I don't know what the position is now but all of a sudden £250k doesn't quite look like peanuts. Not sure if you've been asleep but we've received compensation for Hurst/Doig, £2m for the Ipswich boys, £1m+ for Woods, £300k for Payne, the Lidl money ... £250k is peanuts for the town. Lidl money - Included in last set of Accounts Hurst/Doig compo - Never seen a figure so care to enlighten me? Toto/Nolan- Sale went through on 8th August, didn't give us a huge amount of time to start splashing the cash Payne - Heard lots of figures banded around, if we got £300k then would be pleasantly surprised Woods - Only just received that now £3million+ is a very nice figure at a headline level but it isn't just a case of us having a spare £3million sitting there, in fact we probably have only received a proportion of that due to receiving fees in instalments. We know that take away cup runs/player sales we lose money each year, Roland clearly wants to have those funds in reserve to cover those losses. I wish Roland would speculate a bit more and the signings this January have echoes of GT in L1, however it's not as simple as many as our fans think it is. And we certainly are not a club where quarter of a million is considered peanuts.
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Jan 21, 2019 20:51:57 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2019 20:51:57 GMT 1
We wasted £100k on John Dungworth, but fans at the time seemed to accept he was worth the gamble, even though he subsequently turned out to be a dud. Trevor Birch, Nathan Elder and Tyrone Barnett are 3 others who come to mind. Not sure the last 2 aid your argument considering the amount of moaning on this board about the amount we spent/wasted on them
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Jan 21, 2019 20:53:15 GMT 1
Post by martinshrew on Jan 21, 2019 20:53:15 GMT 1
Not sure if you've been asleep but we've received compensation for Hurst/Doig, £2m for the Ipswich boys, £1m+ for Woods, £300k for Payne, the Lidl money ... £250k is peanuts for the town. Lidl money - Included in last set of Accounts Hurst/Doig compo - Never seen a figure so care to enlighten me? Toto/Nolan- Sale went through on 8th August, didn't give us a huge amount of time to start splashing the cash Payne - Heard lots of figures banded around, if we got £300k then would be pleasantly surprised Woods - Only just received that now £3million+ is a very nice figure at a headline level but it isn't just a case of us having a spare £3million sitting there, in fact we probably have only received a proportion of that due to receiving fees in instalments. We know that take away cup runs/player sales we lose money each year, Roland clearly wants to have those funds in reserve to cover those losses. I wish Roland would speculate a bit more and the signings this January have echoes of GT in L1, however it's not as simple as many as our fans think it is. And we certainly are not a club where quarter of a million is considered peanuts. Don't forget the Connor Goldson money also ...
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Jan 21, 2019 20:58:10 GMT 1
Post by Pilch on Jan 21, 2019 20:58:10 GMT 1
I bought a pie last game
where has that £3.30 gone ?
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Post by callum on Jan 21, 2019 21:06:59 GMT 1
Yes you could argue he is (although he has played in league football before), I'm using Martin's terminology and really highlighting the contradiction of people wanting a proven goalscorer at this level, yet listing people who have never played at this level. What people actually mean is they want us to spend money on a striker. And the definition of a punt to me is different dependent on the club. For example Swansea & Sunderland are clubs linked with Shankland, £250k is small fry for them and worth a punt, gamble or whatever you want to call it. For us it would have been a record signing and had it not worked out then people would have been criticising Roland, Brian etc, I doubt many people would have said "oh well, it was worth a gamble". We wasted £100k on John Dungworth, but fans at the time seemed to accept he was worth the gamble, even though he subsequently turned out to be a dud. Trevor Birch, Nathan Elder and Tyrone Barnett are 3 others who come to mind. Not to mention Dave Waller!
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