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Post by gtismygod on Jan 21, 2019 15:03:18 GMT 1
This. I know upon 50 people who have either already had enough of the lack of ambition or are getting close to it. We own our ground ground, totally debt free, one of only 3/92 clubs in the black I believe? The time to take a chance was last January where we should have backed Hurst and brought a striker to fire us up. We're now in the position of needing a striker to keep us up. which striker do we need ? because 89/92 clubs needs him too Not sure there's 89/92 Football League clubs looking for a League One level centre-forward. There's maybe 5-6. And I'm sure the 5 or 6 have differing budgets and also different targets in mind.
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Post by wakemanender on Jan 21, 2019 15:04:31 GMT 1
We are a small club who are holding our own in Division One of the EFL thanks in no small part to a supporter of the football club. There are many much larger clubs in our division and in the division below. No moaning about the chairman last season. Not true. I've wanted the chairman gone for some time now. Poor decision after poor decision, contract mess ups, lack of investment, weird behaviour (star signs anyone?). We've spent the equivalent of two record transfer fees firing one "inexperienced league manager" to bring in a manager with no league and very minimal non-league experience. Poor decision after poor decision, contract mess ups, lack of investment and weird behaviour. Arent you getting mixed up with the chairmen of Chester, Wrexham and Hereford.
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Jan 21, 2019 15:15:12 GMT 1
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Post by bobbytheblock19er on Jan 21, 2019 15:15:12 GMT 1
hang on a minute , we were talking about the previous week being one of the best for a very long time as you say? So you say we scored a few over Christmas , the “great draw” at Sunderland , the victory against Coventry . So this past week has been better than them weeks ? Maybe I am wrong . In fact yes I am Wrong . Congratulations to shrewsbury town on the penalty scored at Accrington in a scintillating performance , the 1-1 at Sunderland and the outstanding 0-0 draw at home to Fleetwood on New Year’s Day , what a time to be alive . ok we give in Roland why are you not listening to this man ? nip to the bank and get next seasons budget out spend it all on bringing 34 year old Henderson from rochdale here after all rochdale are the same points as us, 2 places below us but more importantly than anything else, have scored 6 more goals than us in the league exactly yeah so imagine where we would be if we had a 20 goal a season striker . Henderson was just an example. Let’s not forget the club sold Stefan Payne and didn’t replace him or his goals . £2m in from toto and Nolan , Woods money , goldson money , Payne money , Bryn Morris money . Fa cup run money . Nobodys asking to break the bank . Just give us some kind of chance of staying up .
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Jan 21, 2019 15:26:09 GMT 1
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Post by martinshrew on Jan 21, 2019 15:26:09 GMT 1
Not true. I've wanted the chairman gone for some time now. Poor decision after poor decision, contract mess ups, lack of investment, weird behaviour (star signs anyone?). We've spent the equivalent of two record transfer fees firing one "inexperienced league manager" to bring in a manager with no league and very minimal non-league experience. Poor decision after poor decision, contract mess ups, lack of investment and weird behaviour. Arent you getting mixed up with the chairmen of Chester, Wrexham and Hereford. Not at all, definitely talking about Roland the saviour.
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Post by martinshrew on Jan 21, 2019 15:28:53 GMT 1
This. I know upon 50 people who have either already had enough of the lack of ambition or are getting close to it. We own our ground ground, totally debt free, one of only 3/92 clubs in the black I believe? The time to take a chance was last January where we should have backed Hurst and brought a striker to fire us up. We're now in the position of needing a striker to keep us up. which striker do we need ? because 89/92 clubs needs him too Just not true is it. I'd say 4 or 5 teams out of 92 would be looking at a League One striker. If you care to look at the top scorers chart, most teams have a decent striker in our league. The ones who don't are generally struggling.
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Post by Mr Brightside on Jan 21, 2019 15:39:15 GMT 1
I believe it goes deeper than just buying a striker. There's a reason we've always struggled with scoring goals so why not try and solve that instead?
Admittedly if you go out and spend enough money, or get lucky enough, then you'll get someone who bangs goals in regardless (Grant Holt for example) but I gave some stats a while back about how poor our attacking record has been for at least the last 15 years. I seem to recall during those years, we've never really invested in an attack-minded coach in our backroom set up. As things stand at the moment, Sam is an ex defender, Danny an ex GK and Eric hasn't played football. Why not invest some of the money into bringing in someone who's an experienced attacking minded coach, or even someone who was in their day a prolific striker, to try and improve the quality and belief of the lads we already have, as well as get the most out of anyone else who comes in?
Just a thought...
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Jan 21, 2019 15:41:39 GMT 1
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Post by martinshrew on Jan 21, 2019 15:41:39 GMT 1
I believe it goes deeper than just buying a striker. There's a reason we've always struggled with scoring goals so why not try and solve that instead? Admittedly if you go out and spend enough money, or get lucky enough, then you'll get someone who bangs goals in regardless (Grant Holt for example) but I gave some stats a while back about how poor our attacking record has been for at least the last 15 years. I seem to recall during those years, we've never really invested in an attack-minded coach in our backroom set up. As things stand at the moment, Sam is an ex defender, Danny an ex GK and Eric hasn't played football. Why not invest some of the money into bringing in someone who's an experienced attacking minded coach, or even someone who was in their day a prolific striker, to try and improve the quality and belief of the lads we already have, as well as get the most out of anyone else who comes in? Just a thought... Andy Cole has gone Macclesfield on part time terms. What a player he was.
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Jan 21, 2019 15:49:01 GMT 1
Post by Mr Brightside on Jan 21, 2019 15:49:01 GMT 1
I believe it goes deeper than just buying a striker. There's a reason we've always struggled with scoring goals so why not try and solve that instead? Admittedly if you go out and spend enough money, or get lucky enough, then you'll get someone who bangs goals in regardless (Grant Holt for example) but I gave some stats a while back about how poor our attacking record has been for at least the last 15 years. I seem to recall during those years, we've never really invested in an attack-minded coach in our backroom set up. As things stand at the moment, Sam is an ex defender, Danny an ex GK and Eric hasn't played football. Why not invest some of the money into bringing in someone who's an experienced attacking minded coach, or even someone who was in their day a prolific striker, to try and improve the quality and belief of the lads we already have, as well as get the most out of anyone else who comes in? Just a thought... Andy Cole has gone Macclesfield on part time terms. What a player he was. Indeed. I'm not suggesting anyone of perhaps that calibre (we must be realistic) and the jury is out on Cole/Campbell at Macclesfield - it'll be interesting to see how it goes for them though.
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Jan 21, 2019 16:03:11 GMT 1
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Post by martinshrew on Jan 21, 2019 16:03:11 GMT 1
Andy Cole has gone Macclesfield on part time terms. What a player he was. Indeed. I'm not suggesting anyone of perhaps that calibre (we must be realistic) and the jury is out on Cole/Campbell at Macclesfield - it'll be interesting to see how it goes for them though. The jury is out? Are you joking Sol has had a brilliant start there.
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Jan 21, 2019 16:15:52 GMT 1
Post by Mr Brightside on Jan 21, 2019 16:15:52 GMT 1
Indeed. I'm not suggesting anyone of perhaps that calibre (we must be realistic) and the jury is out on Cole/Campbell at Macclesfield - it'll be interesting to see how it goes for them though. The jury is out? Are you joking Sol has had a brilliant start there. He's had a decent start yes, but only been there for a handful of games...
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Jan 21, 2019 16:32:06 GMT 1
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Post by martinshrew on Jan 21, 2019 16:32:06 GMT 1
The jury is out? Are you joking Sol has had a brilliant start there. He's had a decent start yes, but only been there for a handful of games... In which he's won 4, drew 2 and lost 2 and got them within a point of safety after being 7 or 8 adrift? Don't like Sol at all but hard to deny he's doing a great job.
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Post by martinshrew on Jan 21, 2019 16:45:36 GMT 1
Wycherley ****ed our best chance of Championship football in a generation by not signing a striker in January. He's now risking our League One status by doing the very same thing this January.
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Jan 21, 2019 16:49:39 GMT 1
Post by Pilch on Jan 21, 2019 16:49:39 GMT 1
which striker do we need ? because 89/92 clubs needs him too Just not true is it. I'd say 4 or 5 teams out of 92 would be looking at a League One striker. If you care to look at the top scorers chart, most teams have a decent striker in our league. The ones who don't are generally struggling. I did look at said charts I noticed a lot of STFC rejects on that list ps take a look at last seasons league 1 top scorers guess who didn't have a player inside the top 20 ? that means we got relegated I presume ?
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Jan 21, 2019 16:55:50 GMT 1
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Post by martinshrew on Jan 21, 2019 16:55:50 GMT 1
Just not true is it. I'd say 4 or 5 teams out of 92 would be looking at a League One striker. If you care to look at the top scorers chart, most teams have a decent striker in our league. The ones who don't are generally struggling. I did look at said charts I noticed a lot of STFC rejects on that list ps take a look at last seasons league 1 top scorers guess who didn't have a player inside the top 20 ? that means we got relegated I presume ? Last season was freak in many ways, and freak that we had multiple players get double figures ..
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Jan 21, 2019 16:57:49 GMT 1
Post by Mortgagehound on Jan 21, 2019 16:57:49 GMT 1
I dont think Mr Payne has set the heather in Bristol on fire.............
Has anyone got a hit list of Strikers we should be buying this month?
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Jan 21, 2019 17:07:49 GMT 1
Post by martinshrew on Jan 21, 2019 17:07:49 GMT 1
I dont think Mr Payne has set the heather in Bristol on fire............. Has anyone got a hit list of Strikers we should be buying this month? January is a difficult market, that is one thing i have sympathy with Ricketts for.
That said, there were strikers available at the start of the season, but we decided to go for AAH who has a record of about 1 in 10 and Lee Angol who's last stint in League One 3 season's back ended with 1 in 4. To be fair, 1 in 4 isn't the worst record, but he wasn't Mansfield's first striker in the division below and that tells you all you need to know.
Meanwhile, Laurence Shankland has 18 in 16 in the league, a bucket load in the cup and his overall record at Ayr is 56 in 56. You can say it's the Scottish Championship but that is at least comparible to League Two/Top of National League. Rangers and Celtic are now sniffing and the reported asking price has gone from £250k (Which was easily affordable) to £750k.
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Post by bobbytheblock19er on Jan 21, 2019 17:14:29 GMT 1
Just not true is it. I'd say 4 or 5 teams out of 92 would be looking at a League One striker. If you care to look at the top scorers chart, most teams have a decent striker in our league. The ones who don't are generally struggling. I did look at said charts I noticed a lot of STFC rejects on that list ps take a look at last seasons league 1 top scorers guess who didn't have a player inside the top 20 ? that means we got relegated I presume ? alright when you got Rodman whalley and Nolan getting a lot each .
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Post by gtismygod on Jan 21, 2019 17:15:19 GMT 1
I dont think Mr Payne has set the heather in Bristol on fire............. Has anyone got a hit list of Strikers we should be buying this month? Off the top of my head: Mo Eisa Lawrence Shankland (although that ship has probably sailed) Macauley Bonne Carlton Morris Sam Surridge I'd expect a professional club of our size to have an extensive list of potential targets before the window even opened.
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Jan 21, 2019 17:16:02 GMT 1
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Post by bobbytheblock19er on Jan 21, 2019 17:16:02 GMT 1
I dont think Mr Payne has set the heather in Bristol on fire............. Has anyone got a hit list of Strikers we should be buying this month? anybody that’s going to basically have a basic understanding of where to put themself , put a shift in, and score more than 2 in 6 months - basically anyone better than amadi hollway. I’d be really happy if he never worse the shrewsbury shirt ever again.
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Post by philjh on Jan 21, 2019 17:17:51 GMT 1
Should have gone for Tranmere's Andy Cook( Walsall) beginning of the season
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Post by martinshrew on Jan 21, 2019 17:30:38 GMT 1
Shankland has 56 in 56 overall for Ayr. Let that sink in.
You're telling me he wasn't worth a punt at £250k? It's only half what we've paid in sacking/hiring managers this season.
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Post by northwestman on Jan 21, 2019 17:35:43 GMT 1
Shankland has 56 in 56 overall for Ayr. Let that sink in. You're telling me he wasn't worth a punt at £250k? It's only half what we've paid in sacking/hiring managers this season. <iframe width="18.720000000000027" height="3.6000000000000085" style="position: absolute; width: 18.720000000000027px; height: 3.6000000000000085px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_60400923" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="18.720000000000027" height="3.6000000000000085" style="position: absolute; width: 18.72px; height: 3.6px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 881px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_24876939" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="18.720000000000027" height="3.6000000000000085" style="position: absolute; width: 18.72px; height: 3.6px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 120px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_42842004" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="18.720000000000027" height="3.6000000000000085" style="position: absolute; width: 18.72px; height: 3.6px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 881px; top: 120px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_27148104" scrolling="no"></iframe> What's even worse is that I believe we only signed Angol for goodness knows how much after not being prepared to pay £250k for Shankland.
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Post by aghabullogueshrew on Jan 21, 2019 17:39:03 GMT 1
Okay, the forward I want is Macauley Bonne at Leyton Orient. Got 18 so far this season, only 23 and this is his first proper run in a first team. Might be worth a punt!
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Jan 21, 2019 17:41:39 GMT 1
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Post by shrewder on Jan 21, 2019 17:41:39 GMT 1
Okay, the forward I want is Macauley Bonne at Leyton Orient. Got 18 so far this season, only 23 and this is his first proper run in a first team. Might be worth a punt! And how much do you think he would be?
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Post by gtismygod on Jan 21, 2019 17:54:07 GMT 1
Okay, the forward I want is Macauley Bonne at Leyton Orient. Got 18 so far this season, only 23 and this is his first proper run in a first team. Might be worth a punt! And how much do you think he would be? 100k maybe? Peanuts compared to what we've thrown away already this season.
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Post by londonshrew75 on Jan 21, 2019 17:57:34 GMT 1
Brian and Rowland messed up after the play off final. They didn't know how to deal with the Hurst situation as he and Ipswich rattled them. Understandable.But his job is to deal with problems that might occur. They needed a strong personality and they took the easy option. Someone who would not give them grief. Askey was the perfect fit. We should have gone for Ainsworth who is a strong character. We have ten days to get one or maybe two players in that have some sort of clout to them. If I'm being honest I'm not sure Ricketts has got a little black book tucked away. "If" there is no signings, then we are down in my opinion. If you took our 4 forwards that we have at the moment and had a chance to swap them with ANY other club in this league. Would you.....? Exactly.......
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Jan 21, 2019 18:01:00 GMT 1
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Post by shrewder on Jan 21, 2019 18:01:00 GMT 1
And how much do you think he would be? 100k maybe? Peanuts compared to what we've thrown away already this season. I think you have made a massive under estimation there.
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Post by aghabullogueshrew on Jan 21, 2019 18:01:16 GMT 1
Okay, the forward I want is Macauley Bonne at Leyton Orient. Got 18 so far this season, only 23 and this is his first proper run in a first team. Might be worth a punt! And how much do you think he would be? I haven't a clue as unfortunately I don't have any contacts in the football industry! I do know Orients owner has only been there a year and he his a businessman! I'm sure a 'reasonable' offer could be made, just too test there resolve!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2019 18:05:21 GMT 1
And how much do you think he would be? 100k maybe? Peanuts compared to what we've thrown away already this season. A quick Google of him and theres articles claiming various prem/championship clubs looking at him for a figure in the region of £500k
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Post by Pilch on Jan 21, 2019 18:05:22 GMT 1
Okay, the forward I want is Macauley Bonne at Leyton Orient. Got 18 so far this season, only 23 and this is his first proper run in a first team. Might be worth a punt! have you ever seen him play ? or did you just google conference top scorers , look who was top, see he was 23 and think he'll do ? dear o dear orient since xmas 2 goals 1 win a 0-0 draw 3 defeats including 3-0 at home (sounds like us only far worse) wow lets buy their striker lets end this conversation here, you clearly dont have a clue about anything football
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