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Post by Minormorris64 on Feb 5, 2019 9:49:20 GMT 1
And yet the last live Test Matches on Terrestial TV were the 2005 England v Australia games which captivated a nation. The ECB could have built on that, but instead sold out to Murdoch. 14 years later the ECB realises that cricket needs a terrestial audience so what do they do? Sell them the dross that is 'The Hundred'. There are two sides to that though. The Counties have received a significantly higher amount of money from the ECB during the period that the cricket has been on Sky. More televised Test cricket = more interest = higher attendances at County games.............maybe we will never know now
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on Feb 5, 2019 9:59:12 GMT 1
I wonder about a shrinking talent pool, how many young people play cricket and is it an option in State schools?
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Post by Minormorris64 on Feb 5, 2019 10:21:46 GMT 1
I wonder about a shrinking talent pool, how many young people play cricket and is it an option in State schools? Participation Figures
2007/2008 - 419500
2015/2016 - 278600
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on Feb 5, 2019 10:32:15 GMT 1
I wonder about a shrinking talent pool, how many young people play cricket and is it an option in State schools? Participation Figures
2007/2008 - 419500
2015/2016 - 278600
Alarming figures for the future of the game.
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Post by northwestman on Feb 5, 2019 10:43:21 GMT 1
There are two sides to that though. The Counties have received a significantly higher amount of money from the ECB during the period that the cricket has been on Sky. More televised Test cricket = more interest = higher attendances at County games.............maybe we will never know now Not when the County games are nearly all scheduled for midweek. At least this year there are a few more in June, July and August.
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Post by Minormorris64 on Feb 5, 2019 10:53:45 GMT 1
More televised Test cricket = more interest = higher attendances at County games.............maybe we will never know now Not when the County games are nearly all scheduled for midweek. At least this year there are a few more in June, July and August. Indeed don't get me started on scheduling County games, I was a member at Worcester between 1995-2006 when things seemed to be quite good but the scheduling now is just bonkers.
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Post by northwestman on Feb 5, 2019 11:11:53 GMT 1
Not when the County games are nearly all scheduled for midweek. At least this year there are a few more in June, July and August. Indeed don't get me started on scheduling County games, I was a member at Worcester between 1995-2006 when things seemed to be quite good but the scheduling now is just bonkers. Yes. I was a member of Worcester for many years. The advent of 20/20 killed that off. I'd be spending more time travelling to and from the matches (I lived in North Wales until recently) than the time the matches last. And the fact most don't start until 5.30 doesn't appeal much either. Actually, neither does the format! Add to that the reduction of Championship Matches and their scheduling and it just wasn't worth remaining a member.
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Post by Minormorris64 on Feb 5, 2019 13:11:50 GMT 1
Indeed don't get me started on scheduling County games, I was a member at Worcester between 1995-2006 when things seemed to be quite good but the scheduling now is just bonkers. Yes. I was a member of Worcester for many years. The advent of 20/20 killed that off. I'd be spending more time travelling to and from the matches (I lived in North Wales until recently) than the time the matches last. And the fact most don't start until 5.30 doesn't appeal much either. Actually, neither does the format! Add to that the reduction of Championship Matches and their scheduling and it just wasn't worth remaining a member. I stopped being a Member because the Map in the Office suddenly changed and one minute I was a Country Member (could make that pay) and the next minute I was no longer a Country Member (More expensive), so either Worcester or Bishops Castle had moved on the OS Map
Mind you I did have an entertaining exchange of Letters with the then Chairman Mark Newton, no doubt of a different ilk to the Chairman of STFC , who I am sure has been known to pen the odd letter to Supporters?
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Post by northwestman on Feb 5, 2019 13:21:24 GMT 1
Yes. I was a member of Worcester for many years. The advent of 20/20 killed that off. I'd be spending more time travelling to and from the matches (I lived in North Wales until recently) than the time the matches last. And the fact most don't start until 5.30 doesn't appeal much either. Actually, neither does the format! Add to that the reduction of Championship Matches and their scheduling and it just wasn't worth remaining a member. I stopped being a Member because the Map in the Office suddenly changed and one minute I was a Country Member (could make that pay) and the next minute I was no longer a Country Member (More expensive), so either Worcester or Bishops Castle had moved on the OS Map
Mind you I did have an entertaining exchange of Letters with the then Chairman Mark Newton, no doubt of a different ilk to the Chairman of STFC , who I am sure has been known to pen the odd letter to Supporters?
Gosh, that was some time ago. Newton succeeded Mike Vockins and was in turn replaced by David Leatherdale.
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Post by franthetownfan on Feb 5, 2019 19:03:24 GMT 1
Just caught up really. Not surprised at the way in which this has happened, still not sure how good WI are. Goodness though, the manner of these defeats has been awful.
The make up of this side is awful - but they’ll probably change the bowling around. The fact that Joe Denly has now been capped for England says it all - a mediocre player in Division 2! Benchmark of a good batter - average over 40. Only Root does that and he is a really bad captain, completely and utterly in denial about how he should play.
Saying that, it pretty much comes down to the toss. It needs changing, I know the traditionalists will disagree based on no good reason at all but it offers too much of an advantage. India are way better than England but the toss beat them.
Stokes the most over rated player ever.
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Post by LetchworthShrew on Feb 7, 2019 17:23:14 GMT 1
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Post by franthetownfan on Feb 9, 2019 11:14:19 GMT 1
Jesus, and Mark Wood is in the squad. When did this happen? Let’s pick a guy who averages over 40, repeatedly. He’s not even quick! If Jennings and Denly are in the 11 too it shows how bare county cricket is.
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Post by shropshirelad42 on Feb 9, 2019 12:48:01 GMT 1
I also am a Worcestershire member -living in Shrewsbury - and agree that the fixture schedules are not correct. But I still go to New Rd (except for 20/20) and sometimes stay over as it's more convenient than travelling every day.
As for England..... Root is a very poor Captain and should hand over to Butler, so as to get back to his best as a batsman.
Does age really matter in cricket ?? How on earth Bell, Hildreth and Mitchell haven't got into this batting line up is beyond comprehension to me.
Does Bayliss earn his pay cheque.....Not in my opinion.
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Post by northwestman on Feb 9, 2019 13:12:24 GMT 1
Tom Graveney was recalled by England when he was 39 and played on for them until his 40s.
Basil D'Oliveira 1st played for England when he was 35.
Brian Close was called up by England when 45!
David Steele was nearly 34 when he 1st played for England.
The list is endless.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2019 13:52:04 GMT 1
Jesus, and Mark Wood is in the squad. When did this happen? Let’s pick a guy who averages over 40, repeatedly. He’s not even quick! If Jennings and Denly are in the 11 too it shows how bare county cricket is. How did Mark Wood sneak in? I missed that one
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2019 13:54:13 GMT 1
Tom Graveney was recalled by England when he was 39 and played on for them until his 40s. Basil D'Oliveira 1st played for England when he was 35. Brian Close was called up by England when 45! David Steele was nearly 34 when he 1st played for England. The list is endless. Geoff Boycott was 40 when he was facing the Windies pace attack out in the Caribbean.
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Post by northwestman on Feb 9, 2019 16:49:54 GMT 1
Jennings out for 8.
Ball wide of stumps. Steered tamely to slip.
Waste of space.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2019 16:53:51 GMT 1
That must be the end of the road for Keaton Jennings...
Terrible dismissal.
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Post by tvor on Feb 9, 2019 17:43:28 GMT 1
As for England..... Root is a very poor Captain and should hand over to Butler, so as to get back to his best as a batsman. Root is, like all recent England captains, learning on the job. He did a decent job against India last summer, a good job in Sri Lanka but not so good in this series. Buttler has no captaincy experience and isn't even fully established in the team, why would he make a better captain all of a sudden?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2019 19:07:25 GMT 1
Top 3 all gone 😕
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Post by franthetownfan on Feb 9, 2019 20:50:36 GMT 1
As for England..... Root is a very poor Captain and should hand over to Butler, so as to get back to his best as a batsman. Root is, like all recent England captains, learning on the job. He did a decent job against India last summer, a good job in Sri Lanka but not so good in this series. Buttler has no captaincy experience and isn't even fully established in the team, why would he make a better captain all of a sudden? Buttler should be nowhere near the test side if he’s going to bat 5, it’s funny that we hold batsmen as world class that average 30 in tests. Can’t get anything from a dead rubber test but Jennings is still crap.
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Post by LetchworthShrew on Feb 9, 2019 22:09:47 GMT 1
WICKET! Keemo Paul strikes with his first delivery of the Test match! A big drive from Jennings, edged to Bravo at first slip. He departs for 8, England 30-1. WICKET! Keemo Paul gets Rory Burns. A bit of movement sees it wrap the opener low on the pads in front of the stumps. Given not out but shown to be hitting middle on DRS. Burns goes for 29. England 69-2. WICKET! West Indies strike twice in seven balls. Shannon Gabriel wraps Joe Denly on the pads and he's on his way. Denly 20. England 69-3. WICKET! West Indies strike shortly before tea. A wide delivery from Alzarri Joseph and Joe Root can only get a toe-end on it through to the keeper. England's skipper departs for 15. 107-4.
Was just catching up after being at Coalville Town 4-1 Hitchin Town this afternoon thinking England were doing better and Stokes gets out c&b. He goes off the field and takes his pads off when the upmpires decide it's a "no ball" and the third umpire goes and tells Stokes to come back on. Commentaters on Talksport are confused but have now said as long as another ball isn't bowled then you can come back on!!
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Post by LetchworthShrew on Feb 9, 2019 22:17:57 GMT 1
Jos Buttler gets his 50 (Eng 203-4)
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Post by tvor on Feb 9, 2019 22:22:01 GMT 1
Jesus, and Mark Wood is in the squad. When did this happen? Let’s pick a guy who averages over 40, repeatedly. He’s not even quick! If Jennings and Denly are in the 11 too it shows how bare county cricket is. How did Mark Wood sneak in? I missed that one Mark Wood replaced the injured Olly Stone right at the start of the tour. With Woakes injured it came down to a choice between Wood and Curran for this match and, with Curran being so ineffective in these conditions, it was the only real choice available.
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Post by tvor on Feb 9, 2019 22:23:45 GMT 1
That incident with Stokes was certainly a strange one! It was a good job that Stokes hadn't already jumped in the shower.
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Post by tvor on Feb 9, 2019 22:59:01 GMT 1
231/4 close of play.
A decent effort from England overall, but particularly from Buttler and Stokes. Another difficult day in bowler friendly conditions and, with a slow outfield, the total would normally have been worth a bit more. If England can push on to over 300 that should be competitive. Par at this ground in the first innings is apparently around 320.
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Post by shropshirelad42 on Feb 10, 2019 11:00:19 GMT 1
As for England..... Root is a very poor Captain and should hand over to Butler, so as to get back to his best as a batsman. Root is, like all recent England captains, learning on the job. He did a decent job against India last summer, a good job in Sri Lanka but not so good in this series. Buttler has no captaincy experience and isn't even fully established in the team, why would he make a better captain all of a sudden? So apart from Root, Anderson & probably Stokes, who is fully established amongst the current squad ? If Root gets injured who do you make captain ?? Anderson, for all his brilliance as a bowler, would be a backward step, plus he is very stroppy and a bit of a sledger who can dish it out but doesn't like getting it back. Stokes after all the publicity (not including things that have been swept under the carpet) is not a suitable choice, unless he can prove during the next couple of years that HE HAS changed his spots. I have listened to Butler lots of times, and though of a fairly quiet demeanour he is very articulate, erudite and a 'thinking' cricketer. Having spent lots of time behind the stumps he would have always been involved in the game, seeing lots of things that other skippers would have done and learning many things from that along the way. The only other suggestion I have is to bring back Gatting. He was in Sri Lanka with us and still talks a good game.
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Post by northwestman on Feb 10, 2019 11:10:04 GMT 1
Moeen Ali has occasionally captained Worcestershire. He did a very good job in the T20 Finals Day last year.
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Post by franthetownfan on Feb 10, 2019 12:26:49 GMT 1
Buttler is the only guy who could be a decent captain, but if Buttler is going to be in the side he needs to bat at 7 and have gloves, and considering we have to have ever guy who should be at 6 or 7 in the side it just ain’t feasible. Buttler did well yesterday but he’s been s**te all series.
Root is a bad captain and when he loses Jimmy and his toss streak goes the other way people will soon notice it too.
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