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Post by BlueAndAmber50 on Jan 5, 2019 16:04:33 GMT 1
Bit of a boring game to watch if I’m honest and thought the win was certainly there for the taking, but as usual a late goal against us strikes again.
Grant MOTM , Haynes & AAH also looked good.
The game really showed how little quality we have in the attacking areas though. We need to spend on a striker and wing sharpish , no pace no flair in the squad
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Post by RBA on Jan 5, 2019 16:15:30 GMT 1
Thought Grant was excellent today -Haynes has really improved back 4 and Arnold did fine- need a goalscorer though= Team just tired towards the end but 1-1 is not a bad result
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Post by mattmw on Jan 5, 2019 16:23:39 GMT 1
Not often an FA Cup game is boring but that was a terrible watch.
Town did well with their work rate but our passing today was poor while Stoke have quality players their attitude was dire - neither side created much although I think had Holloway taken his chance we would have won
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Post by Chief Inspector Swan on Jan 5, 2019 16:29:58 GMT 1
Bit of a boring game to watch if I’m honest and thought the win was certainly there for the taking, but as usual a late goal against us strikes again. Grant MOTM , Haynes & AAH also looked good. The game really showed how little quality we have in the attacking areas though. We need to spend on a striker and wing sharpish , no pace no flair in the squad “as usual a late goal against us strikes again”
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Post by shrewswolf on Jan 5, 2019 16:31:19 GMT 1
Blimey, this new gaffer really does know how to take the life & soul out of a game of football. The masterplan will certainly be no strikers any time we face anyone decent home or away - great stuff. This wasn’t Spurs or Liverpool, it was struggling Stoke City from just one league above. Don’t get me wrong, it’s a good result really but Jesus, it’s hard work isn’t it?
I can only hope Ricketts tactics change when he has his own players rather than LJL, Holloway, Laurent, Bolton etc. He’s getting the worst out of Docherty but hopefully that’s just a dip in form for a youngster.
On we go....
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jan 5, 2019 16:32:10 GMT 1
you dont need to be a football expert to see that Stoke look at a team with low confidence, Ince looked to be there best player.town made a bright start but took 26 minutes before a shoot forced a save.town looked there most effective when they pressed high up the park.so many moves broke down from a combination of poor distribution and players been caught off side.
Norburn was poor and had a bee in his bonnet about one of there midfielders, he was warned twice and then got a booking.Lewis looked to have got his studs stuck in the pitch and twisted his knee he was clearly in a lot of pain. a well taken penalty with a deserved lead.
i thought Haynes and grant played really well.
after such a poor first half you expect a team to come out and give it a go. after 60 minutes town sat deep and not surprisingly stoke were trying to get back in the game.a lovely cross put Holloway in on goal and missed the best chance of the game, i was sorry for him because he worked hard and won so many headers. a triple substitution had an impact the new winger was causing Bolton all kinds of problems and after doing a number on him his cross resulted in a goal. Saddler went off with an injury after a clash of heads and i thought Beckles did well. Angol came on and managed to get miles off side twice.
town blew a really good chance of progressing in the cup. after the turgid Fleetwood game whilst it was an improvement , not sure about sitting deep with 30 minutes left in the game but anyone could look wise with hindsight .tactically one area we failed to exploit was there number 5 looked rattled and error prone when pressed.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jan 5, 2019 16:42:53 GMT 1
some of towns players looked tired so i do hope he rests key players for the tin pot and focuses on the league.
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Post by wayahead on Jan 5, 2019 16:45:55 GMT 1
Blimey, this new gaffer really does know how to take the life & soul out of a game of football. The masterplan will certainly be no strikers any time we face anyone decent home or away - great stuff. This wasn’t Spurs or Liverpool, it was struggling Stoke City from just one league above. Don’t get me wrong, it’s a good result really but Jesus, it’s hard work isn’t it? I can only hope Ricketts tactics change when he has his own players rather than LJL, Holloway, Laurent, Bolton etc. He’s getting the worst out of Docherty but hopefully that’s just a dip in form for a youngster. On we go.... Nothing to do with the formation regarding Docherty, he has been playing there for a while and was doing well, there’s no expectation for him to do well every game, he would always have a slight dip. I thought Laurent did very well today, their best player was their RB and Laurent covered loads of ground to keep him quiet plus got forward to support Holloway.
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Post by vixenshrew on Jan 5, 2019 17:01:42 GMT 1
Just back from the match and surprised at the comments so far, but that could be my inexperience re tactics etc. I thought Town played well, gained possession of the bal and ran rings round Stoke first half. If we could have got away with them not putting Crouchy on we probably would have won, but it wasn't to be.
I agree that we still give away balls to easily and too often our attackers are off side, but there is improvement, it's just annoying that improvement isn't continuous as we seem to take 2 steps forward 1 step back. The team played really hard today and wanted to win. MOM Haynes who is getting better each game he plays. Norburn good, but needs to take control of his temper, Docherty had some good spells, but not his best, Holloway had a huge chance but didn't take it. Gillead did well first half, but tired 2nd half, but more game time could see him improve. Waterfall did well too and of course Grant was superb as always. Radio shrop saying that fans criticising Rickets, but imo he is doing ok with the team he has inherited. Just need to give him time imo I think he will eventually be good for us, but of course we need to get up the league to be safe from relegation, so I understand why some fans are getting a bit tetchy.
We are still the FACup for now COYB.
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Post by gtismygod on Jan 5, 2019 17:04:11 GMT 1
Good result but we should definitely have had more of a go at them. We seemed happy to just sit back and get everyone behind the ball which was disappointing.
Contrary to popular opinion I thought Docherty had a good game, very busy and always good on the ball. Gilliaed looked sharp going forward and was our biggest threat I thought, but he was the absolute opposite without the ball, lazy and not really interested in closing down. Haynes and Waterfall both had good games, and a typical top drawer performance from Grant.
You cant expect to win games if your centre forward is missing the kind of chance that AAH headed over in the second half. Head it down and make sure you hit the target.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jan 5, 2019 17:12:42 GMT 1
Good result but we should definitely have had more of a go at them. We seemed happy to just sit back and get everyone behind the ball which was disappointing. Contrary to popular opinion I thought Docherty had a good game, very busy and always good on the ball. Gilliaed looked sharp going forward and was our biggest threat I thought, but he was the absolute opposite without the ball, lazy and not really interested in closing down. Haynes and Waterfall both had good games, and a typical top drawer performance from Grant. You cant expect to win games if your centre forward is missing the kind of chance that AAH headed over in the second half. Head it down and make sure you hit the target. what we needed in the last third was a player to really get a grip of things and just go for it. Stoke were there for the taking and we blew it.
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Post by blueandamber on Jan 5, 2019 17:18:44 GMT 1
At least Fey will be available for the replay!
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jan 5, 2019 17:19:36 GMT 1
At least Fey will be available for the replay! let us hope they keep it on the ground and play to his strengths
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jan 5, 2019 17:23:46 GMT 1
according the stoke fans forum the three players subbed were worth £30 million !!
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Post by northwestman on Jan 5, 2019 17:32:51 GMT 1
What on earth is the matter with Angol?
Holloway may as well have stayed on. Angol looked completely disinterested, wasn't prepared to run to close down players even though he was fresh on the pitch, and failed to concentrate on staying onside.
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Post by ssshrew on Jan 5, 2019 17:35:20 GMT 1
according the stoke fans forum the three players subbed were worth £30 million !! No wonder they made a difference then - they dam well should have done!!!!!
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Post by northwestman on Jan 5, 2019 17:35:51 GMT 1
At least Fey will be available for the replay! Norburn won't be though. 2nd booking today after having picked up an earlier yellow card when we were away at Salford.
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Post by Red Rose In Exile on Jan 5, 2019 17:47:06 GMT 1
What on earth is the matter with Angol? Holloway may as well have stayed on. Angol looked completely disinterested, wasn't prepared to run to close down players even though he was fresh on the pitch, and failed to concentrate on staying onside. Said this to the chap next to me. He also always waits for the ball to get to him rather than going towards it if need be. Very disappointed with what I perceive as his attitude and perhaps answers a few questions as to why Askey wouldn't play him
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Post by haughmond on Jan 5, 2019 17:56:17 GMT 1
Christ on a bike, cannot be.ieve some of the comments. Stoke are a poor Championship side, they have the players but their attitude is poor. When they decided to “ play” their power and pace was evident. Overall we played very well, closed them down, played good football and should have scored a second through Holloway. I thought we played well 1- 11. Norburn was superb first half, but faded second half, Holloway was excellent, held the ball up well and won most of his headers. I have given Waterfall a lot of stick over the past few weeks, but fair play he did very well again today.
I fail to see just what the support of this team want. If we don’t win easily, then it seems that most think we have played poorly. We were Stoke’s equal throughout the match, and better for most of it. We are what we are, a mid- table side with an outside chance of a top seven finish. I have witnessed far more turgid displays over past seasons, this was a good game.
Most on here talk absolute bollox.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jan 5, 2019 18:00:31 GMT 1
What on earth is the matter with Angol? Holloway may as well have stayed on. Angol looked completely disinterested, wasn't prepared to run to close down players even though he was fresh on the pitch, and failed to concentrate on staying onside. i agree the off sides were totally avoidable ,it was frustrating because he was off side by a country mile .i have no idea what is going on with him but he needs to buck his ideas up .
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Post by davycrockett on Jan 5, 2019 18:00:50 GMT 1
Blimey, this new gaffer really does know how to take the life & soul out of a game of football. The masterplan will certainly be no strikers any time we face anyone decent home or away - great stuff. This wasn’t Spurs or Liverpool, it was struggling Stoke City from just one league above. Don’t get me wrong, it’s a good result really but Jesus, it’s hard work isn’t it? I can only hope Ricketts tactics change when he has his own players rather than LJL, Holloway, Laurent, Bolton etc. He’s getting the worst out of Docherty but hopefully that’s just a dip in form for a youngster. On we go.... Or the inability of Ricketts to get the best out of our players who went on a 5 games out of 6 winning run before he arrived, were about to find out over the next 6 months 😩
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Post by cheggersdrinkspop on Jan 5, 2019 18:11:30 GMT 1
Totally agree with Haughmond on here, wtf do people expect and what do they choose to see, unbelievable sometimes. This goes for the dopes who messaged radio shropshire afterwards and started an inane thread regarding the result and certain players not being adequate.
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Post by philjh on Jan 5, 2019 18:22:08 GMT 1
At least Fey will be available for the replay! Norburn won't be though. 2nd booking today after having picked up an earlier yellow card when we were away at Salford.
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Post by philjh on Jan 5, 2019 18:22:41 GMT 1
Dave Edwards might tho !!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2019 18:29:23 GMT 1
Frustrating that. Stoke there for the taking, but not good enough in the final third. When we finally get a decent cross in AAH misses an absolute sitter.
Mind you easy to say that stood in the stand.
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Post by northwestman on Jan 5, 2019 18:37:05 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2019 18:43:58 GMT 1
IF only he had headed it downwards... Easy to say I know As for the game itself, I thought we showed well at times but we are just lacking that extra little bit of quality in the final third. Holloway is not a bad target man but unfortunately he's not a natural finisher. I've been banging the drum for Lee Angol but he failed to convince today. Not sure what's going on with him to be honest.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Jan 5, 2019 18:48:08 GMT 1
There’s a general feeling of being underwhelmed at drawing to a team in the league higher.
I’m not sure what to make of today’s game, for me it showed what we’re good at but also massively highlighted our weaknesses. We could do with seeing some transfer activity this month.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jan 5, 2019 18:48:54 GMT 1
I suspect Holloway will have trouble sleeping after that. It really was there for the taking. Awful miss... Be interesting to see what options we have come the replay. Fey for one; which is good...
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Post by northwestman on Jan 5, 2019 18:49:11 GMT 1
That said, I thought Holloway had a good game and won a fair number of headers.
But with LJL likely to be out for some time, and the problems we've clearly had with Angol, bringing in at least one new striker becomes even more of a priority.
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