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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Mar 8, 2018 14:28:18 GMT 1
Is it Simon Mills!!! WOW Thanks for confirming that... he even out a post up on Facebook slagging B and A off. Never made the connection I thought it was him, but didn’t want to say anything without checking His obsession with B and A makes sense now Scoot. Christ it takes all sorts doesn't it.
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Post by chelschris on Mar 8, 2018 14:48:18 GMT 1
there's a rat in me kitchen what are WE gonna do....? there's a rat in me kitchen what are WE gonna do....?
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Mar 8, 2018 14:49:37 GMT 1
It's a tricky one. I don't mind a bit of banter and whathaveyou. I've had some good debates on here and happy how they pan out. I say that because really don't want to see a situation where we will see posts disappearing left, right and centre just because they don't happen to meet the board rules and guidelines. But I appreciate that it's not the same for others on here who simply don't want to be on the wrong end of someone being a plank. We don't want people feeling as if their getting stick on here when there is simply no need for it and it'll put people off or see them heading elsewhere.
Is it a cop out if we ask people on the board to flag up anything that they don't think should be allowed to stay up? Then we can check it against the rules and then act if needed? Maybe after a while people will get the message that certain things are OK. I don't think we actually see too much beyond the pale to be honest. Just a quick message to one of the mods is all that would be needed.
And let's not have a dig at Pilch, he is pretty much the only mod we have who is proactive when it comes to looking after things.
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Mar 8, 2018 14:51:50 GMT 1
Stutty, the amount of threads removed or changed in 2017 was probably as low as its EVER been. Other than removing all that spam that one weekend!
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Post by Pilch on Mar 8, 2018 15:00:26 GMT 1
just wanted to make one thing clear
when someone asks for a thread to be moderated, we do asap thats why I moved the thread yesterday
it doesn't matter if the thread was started by the person who wants it moved
it was only last year someone drove into a group of muslims killing one and some of them protected him from getting lynched, even though he may have deserved it
I've started threads myself that backfire the easiest solution is to make the thread go away
its doesn't matter why
bullying abuse to save embarrassment something personal or just to cringeworthy to stay
whatever the reason
now if it was you that wanted the thread moved last thing you'd want is to see the same thing re-appear with the same debate
we all make mistakes me more than anyone
have your opinion but come on you are all clever enough to get your opinion across without crossing the line
you all know roughly where that line is
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Post by vanner on Mar 8, 2018 15:41:28 GMT 1
A good referee doesn’t really get noticed and let’s the game carry on, realising the game is the reason people are present, not him. It’s the same for a moderator, they should be present, but not too involved and certainly possess the ability to let go of their ego and realise it isn’t all about them. All anyone wants from a referee/moderator is a bit of consistency and to treat both sides/all posters equally.
Moderating is made more difficult with the ease that anyone can A) hide behind an alias with little repercussions for their actions and B) re-register under another alias/account.
Don’t get me wrong, there are some very good moderators here and I’m not trying to cause waves, just making a general point from observations/experience of posting on this forum and previously having the ‘honour’ of being a forum moderator myself on other sites. I don’t particularly envy the role!
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Post by Pilch on Mar 8, 2018 16:06:06 GMT 1
A good referee doesn’t really get noticed and let’s the game carry on, realising the game is the reason people are present, not him. It’s the same for a moderator, they should be present, but not too involved and certainly possess the ability to let go of their ego and realise it isn’t all about them. All anyone wants from a referee/moderator is a bit of consistency and to treat both sides/all posters equally. Moderating is made more difficult with the ease that anyone can A) hide behind an alias with little repercussions for their actions and B) re-register under another alias/account. Don’t get me wrong, there are some very good moderators here and I’m not trying to cause waves, just making a general point from observations/experience of posting on this forum and previously having the ‘honour’ of being a forum moderator myself on other sites. I don’t particularly envy the role! yesterday there was a free for all, abuse, bullying , swearing and someone called for a referee why would I let the game go on ? I nipped the problem in the bud, or so I thought but the game kept carrying on elsewhere 3 times I stopped the thread only for a persistent few to want it to continue in the end it was allowed to continue and there lurking in the background was a re-incarnated trouble maker who the opportunity to once again throw personal abuse and threats I would say VAR suggests the ref made the correct decision first time but unfortunately we had to play out the game to prove this
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Post by venceremos on Mar 8, 2018 16:42:13 GMT 1
A good referee doesn’t really get noticed and let’s the game carry on, realising the game is the reason people are present, not him. It’s the same for a moderator, they should be present, but not too involved and certainly possess the ability to let go of their ego and realise it isn’t all about them. All anyone wants from a referee/moderator is a bit of consistency and to treat both sides/all posters equally. Moderating is made more difficult with the ease that anyone can A) hide behind an alias with little repercussions for their actions and B) re-register under another alias/account. Don’t get me wrong, there are some very good moderators here and I’m not trying to cause waves, just making a general point from observations/experience of posting on this forum and previously having the ‘honour’ of being a forum moderator myself on other sites. I don’t particularly envy the role! yesterday there was a free for all, abuse, bullying , swearing and someone called for a referee why would I let the game go on ? I nipped the problem in the bud, or so I thought but the game kept carrying on elsewhere 3 times I stopped the thread only for a persistent few to want it to continue in the end it was allowed to continue and there lurking in the background was a re-incarnated trouble maker who the opportunity to once again throw personal abuse and threats I would say VAR suggests the ref made the correct decision first time but unfortunately we had to play out the game to prove this I missed this as it went on. Is anywhere showing the highlights?
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Post by ssshrew on Mar 8, 2018 16:43:56 GMT 1
I think to be fair that yesterday perfectly reasonable people were worried that their views were being ignored. Today we have had some things explained to us and we are now aware that nasty things have been going on. I am older and certainly naive enough to not have realised this.
I don’t belong to Facebook but have been made aware of the anti B and A post on there. I did wonder if it was the same person and now it has been confirmed. What an odd person he must be to have the time to bother!
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Post by blueboy62 on Mar 8, 2018 17:47:10 GMT 1
Three days ago, having got fed up with the constant sniping and abuse from a small minority I described as attention seekers, I suggested we boycott them in the hope they might go away. I immediately received abuse from an unexpected source which did upset me for a shirt while and then politely replied. His next response was much more considered and polite and I put it all down to him having a bad day, so no great harm done. Yesterday, I discovered the poster was a moderator, which was a bit of a shock. I don't envy anyone doing the job and would like to thank all moderators who give up their time foc to help run this forum. It's made very difficult by a very small number of posters. I would like to see a yellow and red card system followed by a 3 match ban. Don't know how practical that might be or if members want it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2018 18:38:12 GMT 1
I think to be fair that yesterday perfectly reasonable people were worried that their views were being ignored. Today we have had some things explained to us and we are now aware that nasty things have been going on. I am older and certainly naive enough to not have realised this. I don’t belong to Facebook but have been made aware of the anti B and A post on there. I did wonder if it was the same person and now it has been confirmed. What an odd person he must be to have the time to bother! I did sign up to the STFC Facebook page at one point but to be honest it was a short lived experience and not one I would want to repeat in a hurry. I must have joined when the anti B&A brigade were in full flow.
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Post by Pilch on Mar 8, 2018 18:56:01 GMT 1
Three days ago, having got fed up with the constant sniping and abuse from a small minority I described as attention seekers, I suggested we boycott them in the hope they might go away. I immediately received abuse from an unexpected source which did upset me for a shirt while and then politely replied. His next response was much more considered and polite and I put it all down to him having a bad day, so no great harm done. Yesterday, I discovered the poster was a moderator, which was a bit of a shock. I don't envy anyone doing the job and would like to thank all moderators who give up their time foc to help run this forum. It's made very difficult by a very small number of posters. I would like to see a yellow and red card system followed by a 3 match ban. Don't know how practical that might be or if members want it. how did you expect me to react when you were hinting at a splitter group forming to boycott certain members its bad enough at times without those sort of ideas slight exaggeration there maybe and yes perhaps I was having a bad day too and came down on you a little ott I do apologise and hope we can move on
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Post by blueboy62 on Mar 8, 2018 19:16:32 GMT 1
Apology accepted so let's all move on together. Thanks for response.
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Post by returnofthehype on Mar 8, 2018 19:52:00 GMT 1
Leicester Shrew...there was a man after my own heart if ever there was one!
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Post by Shrewsfan1985 on Mar 8, 2018 21:43:14 GMT 1
its ok I know exactly who he is, had real bad abuse and threats from him in the past via messages which I still have I know his name and where he is from, will report his threats asap Having been critical recently of the board, I feel I must offer support here. Personal threats and abuse cannot and should not ever be tolerated. I totally agree with you 100% here. Personal threats and abuse should not be tolerated on this message board.
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Post by dachshund on Mar 8, 2018 21:46:27 GMT 1
It was very obviously Simon Mills once he yet again brought up his peculi@r obsession with suggesting that the board is a haven for white or ‘pale’ people. No one else seems to miss the fact that our fan base broadly reflects the ethnicity of the surrounding area
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