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Post by SouthStandShrew on Oct 26, 2017 18:38:51 GMT 1
Gutted.
Are we allowed for example to sign free transfers still?
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Post by ssshrew on Oct 26, 2017 18:41:33 GMT 1
Yes but it would have to be someone who meets PH's standards and I reckon that will be difficult.
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Post by Salopfan99 on Oct 26, 2017 18:41:34 GMT 1
Gutted. Are we allowed for example to sign free transfers still? Yep
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Post by SouthStandShrew on Oct 26, 2017 18:51:22 GMT 1
Maybe some non contracted players in lower leagues able to come in.
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Post by wiseone on Oct 26, 2017 19:14:35 GMT 1
Gutted for him.
I wonder if he will travel with the squad for Saturdays game (I doubt it). Hopefully he will be at the next home game so we can show our appreciation.
I will also think of him every time NWM puts a post up about yellow cards (since the app always shows the first post) .......... It is strange that the thread has continued but unfortunately is a lot more depressing than Junior missing a game because of suspension 😞
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Post by ssshrew on Oct 26, 2017 19:21:36 GMT 1
Doubt he will travel Saturday as they seem to want the op done ASAP. Would be good to see him at home games though.
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Post by paulshrew on Oct 26, 2017 19:36:08 GMT 1
#doitforjunior
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Oct 26, 2017 19:50:03 GMT 1
9 months seems a bit long.. that's the rest of the season.. is that the normal time of recovery for this type of injury? Time for Skitty to work his magic.. It's the underlying tear too the meniscus etc that might need a separate operation. That's what happened to me. I had the same injury except my medial was sprained not torn. I think a straight acl tear is the 6 month one. Chuck in cartilage issues and everything takes a bit longer.
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Post by champagneprince on Oct 26, 2017 20:31:42 GMT 1
Such a shame for Junior and a big blow for PH. Best wishes to him with his recovery, let's hope he's kicking a ball in May and making a mockery of the 9 months prognosis. A 90th minute promotion party cameo at Blackpool would be nice!
Give Beckles a go, he could well prove to be a more than adequate replacement and good luck to him too
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Post by JohnG on Oct 26, 2017 21:06:25 GMT 1
Bad news, both for Junior and the team.
It's testament to how much Junior has come on in the last 12 months or so, especially since Hurst came in, that we are all genuinely disappointed and gutted that this has happened.
He epitomises what we all want in a STFC player, 100% effort, commitment, hard work, and let's not forget that he certainly has ability.
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Post by Stowmarket Shrew on Oct 26, 2017 21:19:57 GMT 1
...and so, the first of our inevitable big tasks, coping with the first serious injury and loss of a 1st team regular. The 2nd big task will be how we bounce back from our first defeat, which I think might come on Saturday.
Junior has beyond fabulous this season, but so much of our success is down to the team and the spirit and the tactics and formation. His crossing ability will be sorely missed and he's worked superbly with Rodman but I genuinely believe that with a team mentality and a squad devoid of 'star players' that we've never had as good a chance as this of coping with such a setback.
In Riley we have a decent attack minded full back who should be able to do a job,and has already been exposed to 1st team action this season and has done well, albeit on the right. Not seen much of Beccles but sure he can do a job too. Only real worry is the lack of cover and depth we have but if anyone can get us through this setback it's Hurst.
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Post by callum on Oct 26, 2017 21:50:05 GMT 1
9 months seems a bit long.. that's the rest of the season.. is that the normal time of recovery for this type of injury? Time for Skitty to work his magic.. It's the underlying tear too the meniscus etc that might need a separate operation. That's what happened to me. I had the same injury except my medial was sprained not torn. I think a straight acl tear is the 6 month one. Chuck in cartilage issues and everything takes a bit longer. I ruptured my ACL, it really is unbelievably hard work coming back, I was at the Orthopaedic gym 3 times a week for 9 months which around 3 hours every time plus hydrotherapy for around eight weeks. It takes over your life for that time, now nearly two years after the op I still can't get it out of my head when playing football. I was told the hardest part to overcome was psychological.
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 26, 2017 23:25:47 GMT 1
Get well soon Junior, your effort and endeaver will be missed.
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Post by sussexshrew on Oct 26, 2017 23:37:50 GMT 1
Damn. I doubt it is much consolation at the moment, but if Junior reads this board, he will know how much goodwill he has among supporters and just how appreciated he is.
It's our first major setback of the season as we will certainly miss his crosses from the left and his presence in both boxes. You only have to see the quality of his wing play in the highlights of the last two games against Bristol Rovers and Fleetwood.
I am sure both Beckles and Riley will be able to slot into our well drilled defence; I hope that they can replicate Junior's attacking qualities. Nolan seemed to have a superb understanding of where Junior is, changing play with those little gentle lay-offs to him; I hope he can create that with his replacement.
I really feel for him; he was so effervescent about being part of this adventure; I join with everybody else in wishing him a speedy recovery.
Let's all hope we can overcome this adversity and carry the project through, so that next season, Junior can proudly run out for Town again... in the Championship!
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Post by shrewdshrewssupporter on Oct 26, 2017 23:47:33 GMT 1
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Post by thesensationaljt on Oct 26, 2017 23:53:14 GMT 1
9 months seems a bit long.. that's the rest of the season.. is that the normal time of recovery for this type of injury? Time for Skitty to work his magic.. It's the underlying tear too the meniscus etc that might need a separate operation. That's what happened to me.
**** me. As if Junior didn't have enough problems, now he's going to come back bald and ugly.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2017 8:15:34 GMT 1
...and so, the first of our inevitable big tasks, coping with the first serious injury and loss of a 1st team regular. The 2nd big task will be how we bounce back from our first defeat, which I think might come on Saturday. Junior has beyond fabulous this season, but so much of our success is down to the team and the spirit and the tactics and formation. His crossing ability will be sorely missed and he's worked superbly with Rodman but I genuinely believe that with a team mentality and a squad devoid of 'star players' that we've never had as good a chance as this of coping with such a setback. In Riley we have a decent attack minded full back who should be able to do a job,and has already been exposed to 1st team action this season and has done well, albeit on the right. Not seen much of Beccles but sure he can do a job too. Only real worry is the lack of cover and depth we have but if anyone can get us through this setback it's Hurst. It's certainly the first significant break in the chain that has provided such a fantastic start to our season. It's especially sad for Junior as he was probably playing the best football of his career - a real challenge for him to get back playing again at league 1 level. He can take heart from NKP's experience and recovery which was well managed by Chris Skitt. In some ways, it is unlucky that this has happened in a position where it seems we have no obvious cover. However, there are plenty of options and hopefully Hurst will identify the best one quickly without too much disruption to the team as a whole. I expect Beckles to be given first chance at Posh, a player who at some stage, we may need at centre half - so it's good if he can accumulate some 1st team experience and fitness now. Even if adequate cover is found in the next few games, it sounds very likely that a regular left back will be incoming during January.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2017 8:37:36 GMT 1
Not sure if I dreamt it, but wasn't Junior one of the contracted players who Hurst may have told was not wanted in the close season? Certainly Hurst's comments in this week's interview indicate he was not Brown's greatest fan after last season. Big respect to Junior then in becoming a regular in the first team this season.
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Post by wakemanender on Oct 27, 2017 9:20:15 GMT 1
PH will have a big decision to make at the end of the season in respect of whether to offer Junior a new contract without him having much time to prove himself.
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Post by bobbytheblock19er on Oct 27, 2017 9:27:02 GMT 1
If we can get through Peterborough , we have 2 cup games to try out different players in that position or new systems to suit us before league action starts again ,
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Post by ssshrew on Oct 27, 2017 9:30:03 GMT 1
PH will have a big decision to make at the end of the season in respect of whether to offer Junior a new contract without him having much time to prove himself. Or it could be said he has proved himself already in view of PH's comments yesterday. I suspect all our players were available in the summer to try and balance the books but I bet he was keener to lose some rather than others.
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Post by salopiankiwi on Oct 28, 2017 2:55:50 GMT 1
OMG I am so horrified to hear that you have such a terrible injury that will keep you out for such a long time, can only say that I hope that you keep your chin up and fight hard to get your fitness back and return fitter and better and determined to get back into the Team as soon as you can. All the Very Best to you, in your time of anguish, from New Zealand.
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on Oct 28, 2017 8:51:45 GMT 1
There's a fashion for playing attacking players as wing backs, Ashley Young and Oxlade-Chamberlain for example.
I wonder whether PH has considered Rodman at wing back with Arthur in front of him?
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Post by haughmond on Oct 28, 2017 9:36:01 GMT 1
There's a fashion for playing attacking players as wing backs, Ashley Young and Oxlade-Chamberlain for example. I wonder whether PH has considered Rodman at wing back with Arthur in front of him? That's a bit of "left field" thinking. ( see what I did there? ) In the modern game it seems that there is no longer an out and out full- back position where the player is used just for his defensive abilities. Sane, Walker, Rose et al all play a more expansive roll for their respective clubs. I think Junior Brown was signed as a winger, being converted into a wing- back by Mellon. Good thinking, you should be a manager, or maybe you were?
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Post by wiseone on Oct 28, 2017 9:46:13 GMT 1
I am gutted that this has happened - but have to challenge some of the responses on the thread.
At the moment there are very few options in regards bringing players in immediately or in January. If we do they are unlikely to be as fit as many of the options we already have. Just as important is that they will have to learn not only how the manager wants them to play but also how our current players play / interlink on the pitch.
I also have a gut feeling that we should not go adding to the squad with free transfers either. It appears there is a togetherness in the squad, a new additional who jumps straight into the first team might create unrest - and disappointed for those who have been waiting patiently for an opportunity.
On paper we have players who can fill Junior's position - this may be a chance for them to show how good they are. They may not have had nearly as many minutes on the pitch as Junior but we still haven't lost when Riley or Beckles have played.
Minimum disruption is needed so Sadler should remain in the position he is in now!
If we lose today (or concede more than 2 goals) I am sure that it will not just be because we have had to make a change in the match day squad, there was a sense of the inevitable that we would lose at Walsall or Gillingham because Henderson was not available (We got 4 points).
I have faith that this season will continue to be one of positive surprises. I expect us to lose soon (especially if you look at the next few games) but I have been saying that for weeks!
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Post by zenfootball on Oct 28, 2017 10:00:53 GMT 1
I am gutted that this has happened - but have to challenge some of the responses on the thread. At the moment there are very few options in regards bringing players in immediately or in January. If we do they are unlikely to be as fit as many of the options we already have. Just as important is that they will have to learn not only how the manager wants them to play but also how our current players play / interlink on the pitch. I also have a gut feeling that we should not go adding to the squad with free transfers either. It appears there is a togetherness in the squad, a new additional who jumps straight into the first team might create unrest - and disappointed for those who have been waiting patiently for an opportunity. On paper we have players who can fill Junior's position - this may be a chance for them to show how good they are. They may not have had nearly as many minutes on the pitch as Junior but we still haven't lost when Riley or Beckles have played. Minimum disruption is needed so Sadler should remain in the position he is in now! If we lose today (or concede more than 2 goals) I am sure that it will not just be because we have had to make a change in the match day squad, there was a sense of the inevitable that we would lose at Walsall or Gillingham because Henderson was not available (We got 4 points). I have faith that this season will continue to be one of positive surprises. I expect us to lose soon (especially if you look at the next few games) but I have been saying that for weeks! i agree we must not rush in for replacements and that if we do get a player he cant expect to just jump in and as you say they may need a transition period to get fully fit. however with the probability of brown been out of action for the season we do need a back up left back , if we cant keep Godfrey we will also need a defensive midfielder that is the minimum. we don't wont things to affect the team spirit but hurst has said that if players under perform they will be drooped
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 28, 2017 21:10:52 GMT 1
PH will have a big decision to make at the end of the season in respect of whether to offer Junior a new contract without him having much time to prove himself. Wonder if his contract has a clause for him implementing an extension based on matches played so far. Otherwise, if there is any doubt, I suppose a 1 year contract might be offered?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2017 21:24:51 GMT 1
PH will have a big decision to make at the end of the season in respect of whether to offer Junior a new contract without him having much time to prove himself. Not really. Hes been a stand out performer for quite some time now in a position he was never bought here to play. He's easily worth a new deal.
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Post by lenny on Oct 28, 2017 22:40:16 GMT 1
PH will have a big decision to make at the end of the season in respect of whether to offer Junior a new contract without him having much time to prove himself. Not really. Hes been a stand out performer for quite some time now in a position he was never bought here to play. He's easily worth a new deal. Fully agree.
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Post by trojanskin on Oct 28, 2017 23:32:17 GMT 1
A new 2yr deal is fully justified for Jnr B.
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