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Post by salop68 on Aug 31, 2015 19:58:34 GMT 1
Something is obviously wrong behind the scenes. Gone is the togetherness we all witnessed last season. Strikes me the playing staff are not happy for whatever reason, possible player unrest. Anyone else thought the same?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2015 20:00:31 GMT 1
Bit of an over reaction. One player has left for personal reasons and two younger squad members get great career moves to Brighton and Southampton.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2015 20:00:51 GMT 1
Out of interest why do you say something is obviously wrong?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2015 20:00:50 GMT 1
Something is obviously wrong behind the scenes. Gone is the togetherness we all witnessed last season. Strikes me the playing staff are not happy for whatever reason, possible player unrest. Anyone else thought the same? No
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2015 20:01:31 GMT 1
I have thought that since the end of July....
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Post by thesensationaljt on Aug 31, 2015 20:07:18 GMT 1
Quite frightening that gates are falling away. Only 2,100 for the PDSA game. I thought fans would have lapped it up.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2015 20:09:19 GMT 1
Quite frightening that gates are falling away. Only 2,100 for the PDSA game. I thought fans would have lapped it up. We're going to the dogs.
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Post by northwestman on Aug 31, 2015 20:12:15 GMT 1
I have thought that since the end of July.... For what reason? Do you perhaps feel that lessons have not been learnt and that once again we are trying to do Division 1 on the cheap, as exemplified by the quality of the new signings, one of whom has already departed?
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Post by shrewsace on Aug 31, 2015 20:24:27 GMT 1
Difficult to tell really. MM doesn't cut a particularly happy figure at the moment, but then he's the manager of a side still looking for their first league win.
Who knows what difference three points could make?
I suppose the situation with Vernon and Demetriou could have soured things a bit, and the uncertainty over Goldson and now Woods has probably been unsettling.
Think Micky will be looking forward to September 2 when he knows what he has to play with and things can start to bed in a bit.
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Post by thesensationaljt on Aug 31, 2015 20:28:48 GMT 1
Quite frightening that gates are falling away. Only 2,100 for the PDSA game. I thought fans would have lapped it up. We're going to the dogs.
If any Juan is caught circulating false rumours, I hope they get their collar felt.
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Post by shrewder on Aug 31, 2015 20:30:17 GMT 1
This thread is just the sort of reaction that you get when results aren't going well.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2015 20:43:39 GMT 1
Could do without Southend winning 2-1 away at Coventry at HT. Town 3rd bottom of live table!
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Post by salop68 on Aug 31, 2015 20:58:08 GMT 1
This thread is nothing to do with our youth players moving on! I don't think its a knee jerk reaction. Having witnessed The Paul Simpson era and latterly GT, it's following a similar pattern. Disjointed performances, no cutting edge. The signing of Junior Brown and possibly Whalley do not inspire. Signings on the cheap when it was obvious MM was banking on Goldson and Woods going earlier than intisipated has resulted in conference quality signings.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2015 21:04:39 GMT 1
This thread is nothing to do with our youth players moving on! I don't think its a knee jerk reaction. Having witnessed The Paul Simpson era and latterly GT, it's following a similar pattern. Disjointed performances, no cutting edge. The signing of Junior Brown and possibly Whalley do not inspire. Signings on the cheap when it was obvious MM was banking on Goldson and Woods going earlier than intisipated has resulted in conference quality signings. This post is very different to your first one. I wouldnt necessarily disagree that the signings in the summer weren't good enough and the team is disjointed, but thats very different to saying something is wrong, there are problems in the dressing room, players aren't happy and there is unrest I'd be disapointed if there was a happy dressing room after the start we have had
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Post by salop68 on Aug 31, 2015 21:16:47 GMT 1
Yes I agree the post is slightly different from the original. I am of the option along with many others who I have spoken to that certain signings have been ok. MM was banking on Woods and Goldson going earlier and part of the fees received would have been added to the budget. Potential recruits were dropped because the money was not in the kitty. However with the new signings it's obvious they are not rated by some of the other players and probably feel let done with the quality signed. Watch and you will observe.
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Post by bobbytheblock19er on Aug 31, 2015 21:29:35 GMT 1
I keep asking myself the question " have any players brought in this summer improved the squad "? And the answer is no .agogo has done alright but nothing better than wesolowski woods or Lawrence .
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Post by sussexshrew on Aug 31, 2015 22:02:21 GMT 1
I keep asking myself the question " have any players brought in this summer improved the squad "? And the answer is no .agogo has done alright but nothing better than wesolowski woods or Lawrence . I keep asking myself the same question, and keep coming up with the same answer as you do. I was disappointed when Collins, SCS, Sharpes and Wroe all left us, but that it seems was their decisions. But this time we seemed to have jettisoned many of our promotion winning players when they wanted to stay. And the replacements have underwhelmed me. The reactions last year between the players on the park and those on the bench whenever we scored was genuine elation; it was as though they had all been Town fans all their lives. The team spirit was like an extra player. Although give us something to be elated about and it may return. And Goldson's departure wasn't one of public hugs and handshakes. He and MM had reportedly had a row just prior to his leaving and Connor slipped quietly away. Perhaps a run of good wins will bring the joie de vivre back. But can they do that?
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Post by mattmw on Aug 31, 2015 22:07:16 GMT 1
Thought it was a little odd at the end of the game on Saturday when Lawrence came over to towards block 13/14 doing a chin up motion to the crowd. Never seen that from a player before and didn't seem in reaction to anything said by the crowd
Said a few weeks ago it was relatively easy to have a good team spirit when you are high up the league and doing well, bit more tricky when you are struggling a bit, and a new challenge for Mellon to cope with a different kind of pressure
Do think it's very fine lines between success and failure in this league and a little bit of luck might be what we need to kick start things, but equally too many little errors and we'll get punished. Much tougher than last season
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Post by ssshrew on Aug 31, 2015 22:18:22 GMT 1
Agree with the last two posters. There just doesn't seem to be the same camaraderie on the pitch somehow. Can't put my finger on it but there is something missing at the moment.
We have had no insight into DNA, team spirit, etc., something MM was very keen on telling us about last season. I don't know something just isn't right. I suspect the players from last season are a bit surprised about the MD/Vernon situations too - it must be unsettling for them. It's a pity we didn't sign Bobby Grant - someone who really wanted to be here.
I too am hoping that the first win comes soon and then perhaps it will be onwards and upwards.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2015 22:33:09 GMT 1
Confidence. When you've got that the rest comes back. Are Walsall or Burton much better man for man?
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Post by wickedwilleh on Aug 31, 2015 22:38:55 GMT 1
Jesus, 5 games into the season and we are relegated already. Yes we've struggled to get the team balance right but we are in a higher league and have, in my opinion been unlucky in some of the games. Get behind the team and manager and stop looking for imaginary rifts and problems when all we bloody need is a win!
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Post by TheFoz on Aug 31, 2015 22:47:41 GMT 1
We'll be fine.
We've kept the core of our players here and it's not as if we have been thrashed in any games.
A lot of football games are decided by luck and I think we have been quite unlucky to be in our position so far.
Mellon is quite a switched on bloke but I am worried by the lack of wingers here. Even last time we got promoted we had Parry,Taylor and Wright.
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Post by shrewsoftheworld on Aug 31, 2015 22:48:34 GMT 1
So a few poor results at the start of a long season at a higher level and suddenly some people seem to want to ram the whole 'right DNA' comments from last season down MMs throat.
There is no doubt that last seasons success was at least in part down to the excellent team spirit developed and maintained by MM and his coaches.
MM is clearly still working out his best team and formation, not helped by key players coming back from serious injuries and the uncertainty caused by the transfer window farce.
However I don't see a player leaving for entirely possible legitimate personal reason as evidence of a meltdown in team relations.
Nor is exploring the possibility of moving on the more fringe players in the squad as a way to try and free up funds in a limited budget to improve the team.
Yes we need a win as soon as possible to get the monkey of our backs before confidence really starts to be affected. However our away form doesn't seem to bear out these 'players aren't happy' theories.
We have had one very poor performance where we were clearly second best (chesterfield) so far. No need to panic just yet people and comparing MM to Simpson is a joke...
Keep the faith
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Post by champagneprince on Aug 31, 2015 22:58:37 GMT 1
Jesus, 5 games into the season and we are relegated already. Yes we've struggled to get the team balance right but we are in a higher league and have, in my opinion been unlucky in some of the games. Get behind the team and manager and stop looking for imaginary rifts and problems when all we bloody need is a win! I agree. We're a few games into the season and people are already asking if the new players are any good. Maybe I was dreaming but I'm sure we have beaten a championship club away from home and take a premiership club to 90 minutes this season? Anyway, it all needs to settle down a bit yet, it's only September, and the games have come thick and fast so far. It was an improved performance against Burton and we were very unlucky to lose as we were on top for most of the game. If the players are peeved off about everything then that's a good thing as it means they care! I don't think we can say that about all the loanees we had in the final GT years.
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Post by champagneprince on Aug 31, 2015 23:05:19 GMT 1
I have thought that since the end of July.... What year?
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Post by colaboy on Aug 31, 2015 23:13:00 GMT 1
We'll be fine. We've kept the core of our players here and it's not as if we have been thrashed in any games. A lot of football games are decided by luck and I think we have been quite unlucky to be in our position so far. Mellon is quite a switched on bloke but I am worried by the lack of wingers here. Even last time we got promoted we had Parry,Taylor and Wright. The width of the pitch this year would suggest we're not really in the market for wingers..
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Post by venceremos on Aug 31, 2015 23:56:08 GMT 1
Thought it was a little odd at the end of the game on Saturday when Lawrence came over to towards block 13/14 doing a chin up motion to the crowd. Never seen that from a player before and didn't seem in reaction to anything said by the crowd Definitely seen that gesture before. Think it was Ian Sharps when we went out of the play offs to Torquay.
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Post by TheFoz on Sept 1, 2015 0:22:03 GMT 1
We'll be fine. We've kept the core of our players here and it's not as if we have been thrashed in any games. A lot of football games are decided by luck and I think we have been quite unlucky to be in our position so far. Mellon is quite a switched on bloke but I am worried by the lack of wingers here. Even last time we got promoted we had Parry,Taylor and Wright. The width of the pitch this year would suggest we're not really in the market for wingers.. Looks like it , the only natural wingers Mellon has signed would be Vincent,Robinson,Caton and Whalley, hardly a great bunch. Collins and Barnett would surely benefit from someone consistently whipping in good balls? However, if I remember rightly we had a pretty poor start last season and it ended up being alright in the end. At least Mellon is willing to try new things out to find that winning formula.
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Post by percy on Sept 1, 2015 5:37:22 GMT 1
We need a big character like Mangan in the dressing room and a few results and then we will be back on song.
I'm just not sure who the character in the squad is now, and the next few games look tricky.
Woods going today could test a few nerves and if he doesn't Midfield looks crowded and there will be some unhappy players on the fringes or an unbalanced team.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2015 6:30:37 GMT 1
No.
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