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Post by neilsalop on May 27, 2015 7:53:24 GMT 1
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Post by jamo on May 27, 2015 7:58:14 GMT 1
No names released as yet but I will bet a gnats knacker that Blatter won't be one of them
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Post by siabod on May 27, 2015 8:15:17 GMT 1
No names released as yet but I will bet a gnats knacker that Blatter won't be one of them Not yet anyway.
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Post by theshrews81 on May 27, 2015 8:22:26 GMT 1
Wow 3 threads on one topic.
Now where is the chippy.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on May 27, 2015 8:40:38 GMT 1
Probably not - unfortunately
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Post by northwestman on May 27, 2015 9:15:03 GMT 1
Jack Warner has been arrested in relation to alleged bribery and corruption in the bidding process for the 2022 Qatar World Cup.
Well, no surprise there then!
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Post by northwestman on May 27, 2015 9:40:27 GMT 1
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Post by jamo on May 27, 2015 9:45:19 GMT 1
As someone said earlier, Not yet ! Warner being nicked is second prize though
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2015 9:48:13 GMT 1
The ring leader still walks a free man though...........
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Post by northwestman on May 27, 2015 9:49:18 GMT 1
Any chance of the 2022 Qatar World Cup being ditched then if it can be proved that their bid was only successful because of bribery and corruption?
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Post by wimbledonshrew on May 27, 2015 10:21:09 GMT 1
Rather a harsh punishment for duplicating a thread!
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Post by bordersalopian on May 27, 2015 10:28:32 GMT 1
Jack Warner has been arrested in relation to alleged bribery and corruption in the bidding process for the 2022 Qatar World Cup. Well, no surprise there then! So after the FA highlighted that there may have been corruption in awarding the 2018 & 2022 World Cup, and an INTERNAL FIFA investigation found no evidence of wrong-doing, some FIFA officials are arrested on suspicion of corruption and bribery related to the two previously mention event? got yo be just coincedence, right? Didn't FIFA & Blatter vilify both the FA and the BBC, threatening legal action due to these 'allegations'...the guys as corrupt as Berlusconi & Maxwell...
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Post by ssshrew on May 27, 2015 10:54:31 GMT 1
Some day they will get Blatter - the buck stops at the top - his moment will come because someone will drop him in it to save their own skin.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on May 27, 2015 12:07:36 GMT 1
Some day they will get Blatter - the buck stops at the top - his moment will come because someone will drop him in it to save their own skin. Here's hoping........
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Post by stuttgartershrew on May 27, 2015 12:55:00 GMT 1
I doubt there will be anything on Blatter. All he wants is the FIFA presidency and all the benefits it brings. To ensure that though he simply allows others in FIFA to go about as they please, allowing corruption to take place without putting any meaningful measures in place to put a stop to it. Everyone's a winner. Blatter gets elected time after time and those who put him there no full well he won't interfere with their corruption. That's what is happening at FIFA. And that's why Blatter won't be one of those arrested. I reckon anyhows.
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Post by QuorndonShrew on May 27, 2015 12:55:11 GMT 1
Yet Blatter still wants to persist in holding the presidential vote on Friday despite seven key delegates being unable to vote.
Doesn't smell fishy at all that does it?
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Post by stuttgartershrew on May 27, 2015 14:07:37 GMT 1
A tad embarrassing too that it's the Americans who are actually looking to do something about it all. I mean it's not even their game is it...if you get me meaning.
And agree about carrying on with the vote. It would seem rather inappropriate to do so but we know that won't stop Blatter. He lives in another world that chap...
But anyhows, good to see this. About time.
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Post by Amsterdammer on May 27, 2015 19:19:37 GMT 1
I doubt there will be anything on Blatter. All he wants is the FIFA presidency and all the benefits it brings. To ensure that though he simply allows others in FIFA to go about as they please, allowing corruption to take place without putting any meaningful measures in place to put a stop to it. Everyone's a winner. Blatter gets elected time after time and those who put him there no full well he won't interfere with their corruption. That's what is happening at FIFA. And that's why Blatter won't be one of those arrested. I reckon anyhows. Blatter is at the top of the tree. Like any good Don he keeps the blood off his hands. He only takes clean money through salaries and bonuses essentially propped up by corruption underneath. I expect all suspects will get a hefty deal if they can offer Sepp's head on a plate, but let's see..
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Post by Pilch on May 27, 2015 19:45:44 GMT 1
the whole lot needs cleaning out and a new organisation set up, starting with the man who was in charge whilst all this corruption was going on
after all fifa/eufa always quick to tar british teams with the same brush like when all english clubs got banned from europe for years on the back of liverpool hooligans
and the champions league needs to revert back to one side plus the holders if there wasn't back handers from spain & italy to allow more than one club in then i'll eat paddy ash downs hat money is ruining the game and its getting worse by the year
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Post by frankwellshrews on May 27, 2015 20:31:25 GMT 1
Gies without saying, fingers and toes crossed that Jack Warner and, eventually, Sepp t**tter, will get what's coming to them. The American aspect to this is an interesting side story to it all though; edition.cnn.com/2015/05/27/us/fifa-corruption-investigation-why/index.htmlThere seems to be two strands to the US involvement. First of all, there's the American brought in by FIFA itself, supposedly to get to the bottom of corruption allegations, who is rightly incensed that Blatter and co attempted to bury his highly critical report. Then there's the US's position in CONCACAF, an organisation which actually manages to make FIFA look fairly legit by comparison. Warner and co found themselves amongst the chief power brokers within the FIFA cabal and it looks as though the USSF is unlikely to come out of this smelling of roses. Obviously, if crimes have been committed (which they almost certainly have) in the US, it's right that they should be investigated in the US so cynical speculation about any possible political motivations behind all this are a moot point but here goes anyway..... Given the World Cup's complicated tax arrangements, the numerous allegations of corruption from across all corners of the globe and the open criticism of FIFA from a diverse range of other organisations and people, there must be queue of people in several countries itching to get their day in court with FIFA. Interesting that the States appears to be the only country with any real political will to tackle the problem though. Of all the world's most economically developed nations, the US is the only one with a home grown sports industry big enough to take on football. Franchisees in the NFL/MLB/NBA must be rubbing their hands with glee at the opportunity to give global "soccer" a good kicking. It's bad enough having to compete with two of those three without the World Cup, Premier League et al in the mix. That CNN article above claims that the US TV deal for the World Cup is the biggest; not sure I believe that, but it's still millions of dollars of American TV network's funds being diverted away from US sports and a massive lost opportunity for US advertisers having to compete with the rest of the world for space at the World Cup (although with Coca Cola, Budweiser and McDonalds all in pride of place as FIFA "partners", they seem to do OK). I'd imagine there's a fair bit of political capital to be made too; a nice opportunity to highlight "American Exceptionalism" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_exceptionalism) in the face of the favourite pastime of degenerate Mexicans and freedom hating commie Europeans with their socialist national health death panels. I notice UEFA have asked FIFA to postpone the elections for 6 months and has advised member FAs to consider whether or not they should attend the Congress. A possible play to wrest power from the Central American, Asian and African voting blocks and bring Europe's dominance of the business side of the club game to the World Cup perhaps? Given their administration of the Champion's League I don't for a second believe that UEFA's intentions are any more noble than FIFA's. One other point strikes me; if one of the allegations being investigated is that there was corruption involved in Brazil's sponsorship by Nike, when are we going to see someone from the CBF or Nike itself get arrested?
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2015 0:02:08 GMT 1
Interesting argument, but not sure I agree. If anything actually cleaning up FIFA is surely going to make footy more popular in the US. Everyone already knows or believes FIFA is corrupt anyway, so I don't think making these arrests is a case of opening the great American public's eyes.
Yanks are best placed to take on FIFA as they have political clout to pressure the Swiss into action, so it's fortunate in a way that Chuck Blazer was engaged in such blatant criminality on US soil that it didn't leave them much choice to get involved.
Also Jose Maria Marin from CBF was among those arrested. A deeply unpleasant character with links to dictatorship tortures back in the seventies.
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Post by MartinB on May 28, 2015 5:51:55 GMT 1
Least surprising thing here is Blatter hasn't resigned over this. In most other organisations if such allegations were made the top man would resign because it has happened on their watch.
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Post by camdenshrew on May 28, 2015 6:11:25 GMT 1
I hope that all those football "pundits" who were bleating about Panorama ruining England's chances of winning the right to stage the World Cup are now hanging their heads in shame.
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Post by shrewder on May 28, 2015 9:14:25 GMT 1
Least surprising thing here is Blatter hasn't resigned over this. In most other organisations if such allegations were made the top man would resign because it has happened on their watch. He probably sees resignation as admitting guilt. He is in a sort of win win situation at present. If the election goes ahead he will win and if its postponed he will remain in post till it evenually goes ahead. Teflon is a wonderful coating.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on May 28, 2015 10:21:49 GMT 1
That's the most painful thing in all this isn't it. That Blatter will point to all this and say 'see, we are cleaning up our act and acting on any irregularities'. Rum
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2015 13:02:21 GMT 1
Blatter stays because Blatter pays, it's as simple as that. Any third world or emerging football nation would get a financial package from FIFA to help with expanding the game in that country, with no checks in place or follow up on how the money was actually spent . Payments were made that ensured one thing, another vote for Blatter when the time came. We may yet see UEFA, America and certain South American based associations withdrawing from FIFA ang setting up a new governing body, which many have been calling for prior to the current revelations. I just hope that the little Swiss dirtbag eventually gets his come uppence and we move on, under a new style of leadership. God bless America.
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Post by Pilch on May 28, 2015 22:42:06 GMT 1
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Post by shrewinjapan on May 28, 2015 23:22:53 GMT 1
It's never healthy to have the same person/people in power for too long. A lot of comparisons of FIFA under Blatter to North Korea - a cult of leader. That speech by a delegate comparing Blatter to Christ, Mandela et al, and the interview yesterday in which his daughter claims he'll be recognised in history as having made the world a better place (vomit) suggest so too. It is beyond the pale that he is highly likely to continue in power despite all this scandal. Personally I think it is time for UEFA to play hardball - tell him/FIFA in no uncertain terms that it's unacceptable for things to continue as they are and that unless he accepts accountability for what has occurred under his leadership and resigns, and FIFA is reformed to be transparent and accountable (absolutely with a maximum term for its president) then UEFA will have to consider withdrawing.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on May 29, 2015 6:39:51 GMT 1
Actions of individuals bring shame and humiliation on football and demand action and change from us all.Is it just me who is getting a bit cheesed off when Blatter keeps talking about football rather than FIFA? I've no doubt this is intentional and it's not right to do so. People don't see football per se as corrupt. They see FIFA as corrupt. And unbelievable that he can stand there and say that he can not keep an eye on everyone considering how many scandals have now occurred under his watch.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2015 8:50:33 GMT 1
Where else would you find some-one at the head of a large governing body that, time and time again has let down the people it has been elected to represent, still remain in office even though the majority of those people do not want him. Then again.............ll.
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