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Post by hooverfoxhat on Nov 6, 2011 11:44:28 GMT 1
I don't think for 1 minute we have seen the last of James, even if the red card and subsequent ban stands, which I think it will, I fully expect him back with us when the ban ends and possibly on a season long loan, Everton permitting. Saw enough in his time on the pitch to suggest the lad has lots to offer, composed on the ball, an eye for a good pass and definitely box to box.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2011 11:54:38 GMT 1
Stood on the lads foot, one footed. I can see why it was given a red but still think it was harsh.
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Post by hooverfoxhat on Nov 6, 2011 11:57:40 GMT 1
Stood on the lads foot, one footed. I can see why it was given a red but still think it was harsh. I particuarly liked the text sent to SwissTony describing the ref in no uncertain terms, never knew or even thought you used such language Ant
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2011 11:59:42 GMT 1
Words like that should be reserved for special occasions
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Post by ferkle94 on Nov 6, 2011 12:06:30 GMT 1
I'm not sure that the video is enough to appeal with, but agree with others that we haven't seen the last of him.
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Post by markglasgow on Nov 6, 2011 12:13:31 GMT 1
Watched it this morning and tackle seemed pretty rash. Just wonder how much of it was due to Wallace's annoyance that Deadman had allowed himself to get caught up in the play with Town in a decent position pressing on the edge of the D&R box.
Not convinced that we will appeal. If the three match ban stands then we'll not see Wallace again (if he stays of course) until the 3rd Dec when we'll hopefully be appearing in the FA Cup 2nd round.
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Post by northwestman on Nov 6, 2011 12:45:45 GMT 1
Can't see us appealing against the red card.
Harsh but justifiable!
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Post by Dale on Nov 6, 2011 16:22:40 GMT 1
From looking at the incident on TV he did go into the challenge with his studs off the ground, even if it was only with one foot, referees take a dim view of that sort of challenge these days and probably rightly so, although we have probably all seen far worse tackles than that with less punishment.
I think the best he can hope for now is if the Newport game goes to a replay so he could be back for the Morecambe game if that happens.
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Post by gingerheskey on Nov 6, 2011 19:23:41 GMT 1
Bad tackle imo, it was fortunate the guy wasn't badly injured. It was late, cynical and clearly pre-meditated.
As for the referee in general, he wasn't the best but was at least impartial. 6/10
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Nov 6, 2011 19:26:13 GMT 1
Bad tackle imo, it was fortunate the guy wasn't badly injured. It was late, cynical and clearly pre-meditated. As for the referee in general, he wasn't the best but was at least impartial. 6/10 For the first half I'd most certainly disagree that he was impartial Emile! He was fairer in the second half, but it wasn't like he was favouring us, just doing his job a bit better. Maybe the stick he received affected him more than he let on
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Post by windsorjnr on Nov 6, 2011 21:16:26 GMT 1
having had us scream at him for letting port vale get away with that goal how on earth can we argue with him for giving a red there shame this ref isn't in the premiership, carragher gets away with tackles like that most weeks Off topic as usual ... Definite red for me, late and his foot was off the ground with studs showing.
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Post by edgmond on Nov 6, 2011 21:24:30 GMT 1
Interesting to see the reaction of the Dagenham players. Take a look at the picture in the Gallery on the Town website - the one on the right looks more surprised than anyone!
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Post by hooverfoxhat on Nov 6, 2011 22:37:48 GMT 1
According to James on twitter there will be no appeal
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Post by thesensationaljt on Nov 6, 2011 22:44:23 GMT 1
I was desperate to believe Stoo Dunn and Crossy, but it was a red for me. You can't show your studs.
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Post by heavyglow on Nov 6, 2011 23:33:27 GMT 1
Bad tackle imo, it was fortunate the guy wasn't badly injured. It was late, cynical and clearly pre-meditated. As for the referee in general, he wasn't the best but was at least impartial. 6/10 Your B&A debut was even more of a shocker than Wallace's for Town. Pre-meditated, get a grip. Deadman is an incompetent buffoon. The way the clown saw fit to grin inanely at our fans whenever he was receiving (perfectly justified) abuse was especially galling. Chap next to me at the end by the tunnel got threatened with police action by a particularly clean-shirted stewart, for merely suggesting in a loud voice as Deadman walked past that he partakes in solo sex. PS Marvin is the future - forget about Harrold. If you ask the mods nicely I reckon they can change your name.
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Post by venceremos on Nov 7, 2011 2:44:32 GMT 1
Just about the full range of views of the same tackle. A Daggers fan sees a two footed, over the ball tackle (can he have been there?) where Steve Cross said he didn't touch him! From the replay, I think more refs would have given a yellow rather than red, but I agree that some would go for red.
Deadman rated 4/10 in the Football League Paper. Then again, who could believe that Linington would ever get 9/10 (at Rotherham yesterday)? Surely a misprint - 0.9/10 perhaps.
More generally, I'm not sure I understand why tackling with your foot off the ground should be a red card - you're going to do yourself a lot of damage if you try tackling with your foot on the ground!
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Post by jontifree on Nov 7, 2011 8:46:33 GMT 1
A tackle worthy of a red card certainly. Studs up caught the player initially at the top of the shin pad therefore reckless.
As for the abuse changing the performance of the referee, I would have to strongly disagree. It is far more likely that his Assessor/Mentor would have had a word at half time plus the fact that players would take fewer risks in the 2nd half after his card happy performance in the first.
This guy clearly loves the abuse he gets and I'm sure he gets it on a weekly basis from bigger, angrier crowds than on Saturday.
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Post by stockportershrew on Nov 7, 2011 13:15:50 GMT 1
Looks like a red card to me under current rules- might have got away with a yellow previously. Don't really understand why a lot of players these days seem to deem it necessary to lunge at players. Once you do that you're not in control and it becomes potentially reckless.
Thought the penalty and sending off was fairly soft but I'm not going to complain - we don't get many penalties since Holty left.
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Post by Ned on Nov 7, 2011 13:23:48 GMT 1
Turner on the official website: "90% of referees would have given just a yellow card for the challenge but this time the ref has gone with a red card. After looking back to the DVD James catches the lads standing foot and there isn't enough on there that would make an appeal worthwhile."
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2011 13:42:21 GMT 1
Turner on the official website: "90% of referees would have given just a yellow card for the challenge but this time the ref has gone with a red card. After looking back to the DVD James catches the lads standing foot and there isn't enough on there that would make an appeal worthwhile." So that's that then. I wonder if GT will go back into the loan market ASAP given that Wallace is going to miss the next 3.
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Post by venceremos on Nov 7, 2011 15:22:27 GMT 1
Surprised that some are thinking our penalty was soft. The replay clearly shows the defender shove Collins from behind - does anyone really think that wouldn't be a free kick anywhere else on the pitch? Fairly obvious (2nd) yellow card too, I'd have thought - clearly no attempt to play the ball.
I'd go with 2 strikers again at Newport but hope we revert to 4-5-1 at Northampton. Could Wroe be fit for that game? If not, why not bring Grandison into a 3 man central midfield and play Goldson at right back again? I'd rather try to extend Wallace's loan and cover his absence in the meantime than rush for a 2nd choice replacement.
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Post by keithyshrew25 on Nov 7, 2011 21:59:19 GMT 1
It was high and studs up, maybe abit unlucky but I've seen them given. Not surprised they didn't appeal.
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Post by albionshrew on Nov 7, 2011 23:07:54 GMT 1
Red - no doubt. Should be a 1 match ban not 3.
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