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Post by clashcityrocker on Nov 9, 2011 7:42:53 GMT 1
For me to wear a poppy, I would have to make a donation. In order to have a poppy on a football shirt, I would imagine that the FA would have made a substantial donation to the Haig Fund/British Legion.
Is this something that has happened?
My vote goes for the poppy on an armband.
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Post by SouthStandShrew on Nov 9, 2011 10:40:24 GMT 1
I thought FIFA were wrong on this at first but they are 100% right.
As much as I respect the Poppy, you allow the FA to do this and you open up a huge can of worms across the globe.
Can you imagine a Argentina shirt with a patch on about the Falklands?
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Post by alex1993 on Nov 9, 2011 10:51:13 GMT 1
the fa should just send the cheque off now and wear it on the shirt... Whats the worse that can happen
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Post by stfcfan87 on Nov 9, 2011 11:10:28 GMT 1
The one thing I don't understand about this ban is the timing. England have played games in every November for god knows how long and I don't ever remember this amount of fuss about poppy's on shirts before. Why is it such a massive issue this time?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2011 11:21:16 GMT 1
and now the PM has spoken out...I wonder if we will see a last minute climb down from FIFA? Somehow I doubt it.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Nov 9, 2011 11:28:35 GMT 1
I’m a bit puzzled as to why there is so much fuss about this to be honest. For me the national side should not wear the poppy. Let’s not forget that the poppy and what it stands for is not just a reminder of those who fought and gave their lives in the first world war and the second world war (people seem to point to these two wars). But it’s an appeal on behalf of the Legion isn’t it, on behalf of those who have served (in all conflicts, from the past and the no so far past) and those currently serving in the British armed forces? And in that we currently have British armed forces who have invaded, currently engaged in and are now occupying countries associated to FIFA. Let’s not forget that someone is always on the receiving end of our military operations. It’s just common sense for me that England should not wear the poppy, I think it would come down as being inconsiderate for me. FIFA are right on this one.
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Post by mattmw on Nov 9, 2011 13:59:46 GMT 1
Does seem to be a lot of fuss about this, which I'm finding a bit puzzling
There will be a poppy on the pitch, players can wear poppies on their training kit and there will also be a minutes silence before the game, so it's not like the remembrance is being sidelined. At the end of the day they are there to play a football match under FIFA rules so should just get in with it
If the FA and players feel so strongly about marking remembrance I assume they will all go to services on 11.11 or remembrance Sunday like the rest of us do
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Post by venceremos on Nov 9, 2011 14:48:47 GMT 1
the fa should just send the cheque off now and wear it on the shirt... Whats the worse that can happen The referee will abandon the game - those are his instructions apparently. Before we get too offended by FIFA's ruling we should be sure we wouldn't take offence at whatever an opposing team might one day wear on their shirts. As someone has said, a commemoration of the Malvinas on an Argentine shirt might cause upset and we'd then be hypocritical to complain. For once I think FIFA is right. There are plenty of opportunities for private and public acts of remembrance. Personally, I no longer wear a poppy because I object to the witch hunt of the curtain twitchers whenever someone appears on TV without one (or, new this year, why didn't that football club have poppies on their shirts). I'll donate and I'll remember and that's surely what Remembrance Day is meant to be about. Besides which, people died fighting for freedom - which includes the freedom not to wear a poppy. How typical for Cameron to get involved. That can't lose him too many votes, can it? But he does have more important things to work on than England's football shirts.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2011 22:44:47 GMT 1
I agree with Fifa on this. I don't support Remembrance Day for political reasons. Didn't you say on here once that anyone who served in Afghanistan deserved everything they got. Any truth in that?
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Post by SeanBroseley on Nov 10, 2011 0:22:00 GMT 1
This is ridiculous b******s. There is far too much posing and mock offence taken at every turn nowadays. If the England side in immediate post war period could cope with playing without poppies on their shirts so can the present bunch of adulterers and drunks.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Nov 10, 2011 9:34:33 GMT 1
Huge own goal by the FA in making an issue of it.
What if Iran wore poppies to commemorate the fallen Taleban?
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