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Post by SouthStandShrew on Sept 1, 2011 10:14:46 GMT 1
Mate at work supports them, all three group games for £45 for all three.
Struggling to sell tickets maybe?!
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Post by Fingers on Sept 1, 2011 10:18:33 GMT 1
Didn't see that deal, for Napoli: UEFA Champions League Manchester City v SSC Napoli Wednesday 14th September 2011 Kick off – 7.45pm Tickets will be priced as follows; Adults: £25 16-21s / Over 65s: £15 Under 16s: £5
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Sept 1, 2011 10:54:45 GMT 1
Could be. But I don’t think this is too unusual. I recall VfB here in Stuttgart doing something similar when they were involved in Europe.
Should go down well in Manchester though, I don’t think Manchester City have the support that will guarantee a full house for each and every game (yet). Not at today’s prices anyhow. That’s a superb offer, excellent way to get a full house and I suspect that’s very much on the minds of the owners and what they are trying to achieve there. They’ll want it full and rocking, they’ll be wanting sell the club to others…
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Post by Ned on Sept 1, 2011 11:33:05 GMT 1
Have to give credit to MCFC for that. Fair play.
Shame STFC can't cut prices for certain games.
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Post by Optimistic Shrew on Sept 1, 2011 11:35:16 GMT 1
Didn't see that deal, for Napoli: UEFA Champions League Manchester City v SSC Napoli Wednesday 14th September 2011 Kick off – 7.45pm Tickets will be priced as follows; Adults: £25 16-21s / Over 65s: £15 Under 16s: £5 Very cheap tickets there, SSS's mate must get a 16-21 ticket. Man City fans must be happy at just about everything right now. I hear the premiership prices are quite good as well.
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Post by Optimistic Shrew on Sept 1, 2011 11:36:24 GMT 1
Have to give credit to MCFC for that. Fair play. Shame STFC can't cut prices for certain games. Well we don't have filthy rich arab owners and £90m+ TV money coming in every year
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Post by duffy on Sept 1, 2011 11:45:17 GMT 1
Could be. But I don’t think this is too unusual. I recall VfB here in Stuttgart doing something similar when they were involved in Europe. Should go down well in Manchester though, I don’t think Manchester City have the support that will guarantee a full house for each and every game (yet). Not at today’s prices anyhow. That’s a superb offer, excellent way to get a full house and I suspect that’s very much on the minds of the owners and what they are trying to achieve there. They’ll want it full and rocking, they’ll be wanting sell the club to others… But everyone in manchester a massive city supports them - so how come they can't fill the ground for their first time in the champions league
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Post by SouthStandShrew on Sept 1, 2011 11:48:27 GMT 1
Nahh he is 26!
Unless he has it wrong!?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2011 12:02:44 GMT 1
I know Birmingham and Stoke did some very good deals for their Europa league games, think it was a fiver for STH's at Brum
Recognition from the clubs that the games might not be the most appealing so an attempt to get people there?
Or recognition from the clubs that the fans have a lot of games to spend on as it is so a gesture to them to reduce the prices
Either way, at least theres some recognition from the club towards fans
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Post by ab on Sept 1, 2011 12:08:16 GMT 1
Think its a great gesture from the club though, wish the club i have followed for 30 years did this when in europe.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Sept 1, 2011 12:26:05 GMT 1
Could be. But I don’t think this is too unusual. I recall VfB here in Stuttgart doing something similar when they were involved in Europe. Should go down well in Manchester though, I don’t think Manchester City have the support that will guarantee a full house for each and every game (yet). Not at today’s prices anyhow. That’s a superb offer, excellent way to get a full house and I suspect that’s very much on the minds of the owners and what they are trying to achieve there. They’ll want it full and rocking, they’ll be wanting sell the club to others… But everyone in manchester a massive city supports them - so how come they can't fill the ground for their first time in the champions league I very much doubt everyone in Manchester supports them, it would be split between the two Manchester clubs wouldn't it? And whilst one of those clubs has a national (even global) support to pull on, the other not so much... Not saying they wouldn't sell out, I just don't think it's guaranteed that all the groups game would be and I think the owners will do all they can to make sure they are. Very big this for Manchester City isn't; for the owners, for this 'project' they talk about...
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Post by duffy on Sept 1, 2011 12:44:19 GMT 1
But everyone in manchester a massive city supports them - so how come they can't fill the ground for their first time in the champions league I very much doubt everyone in Manchester supports them, it would be split between the two Manchester clubs wouldn't it? And whilst one of those clubs has a national (even global) support to pull on, the other not so much... sorry stuttgarter - it was irony on my part - re how manchester is blue - when it's not Not saying they wouldn't sell out, I just don't think it's guaranteed that all the groups game would be and I think the owners will do all they can to make sure they are. Very big this for Manchester City isn't; for the owners, for this 'project' they talk about...
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Post by duffy on Sept 1, 2011 12:44:59 GMT 1
sorry stuttgarter - it was irony on my part - re how manchester is blue - when it's not
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Sept 1, 2011 14:08:36 GMT 1
£45 for 3 European games - very good deal. Works out the same as Town v Man Utd youth team in a friendly
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Post by Fingers on Sept 1, 2011 14:12:16 GMT 1
sorry stuttgarter - it was irony on my part - re how manchester is blue - when it's not I'd say 70-30 in favour of Manchester City based upon what I've seen.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Sept 1, 2011 14:15:24 GMT 1
sorry stuttgarter - it was irony on my part - re how manchester is blue - when it's not
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Post by siabod on Sept 1, 2011 14:31:49 GMT 1
sorry stuttgarter - it was irony on my part - re how manchester is blue - when it's not I'd say 70-30 in favour of Manchester City based upon what I've seen. How do you determine where people are from when you see them ?
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Post by Fingers on Sept 1, 2011 17:13:56 GMT 1
I'd say 70-30 in favour of Manchester City based upon what I've seen. How do you determine where people are from when you see them ? I used to take survey's in Manchester City Centre for a football related study. More people wore Man City shirts than United and the city shirt wearers were based more locally. Of course you could argue this was the data for just the several days i surveyed. So add the 2 1/2 years observation of living within Manchester and the way the m56 always got clogged up for Man United home games and not Man city home games you start to get a picture.
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Post by QuorndonShrew on Sept 2, 2011 2:44:19 GMT 1
How do you determine where people are from when you see them ? I used to take survey's in Manchester City Centre for a football related study. More people wore Man City shirts than United and the city shirt wearers were based more locally. Of course you could argue this was the data for just the several days i surveyed. So add the 2 1/2 years observation of living within Manchester and the way the m56 always got clogged up for Man United home games and not Man city home games you start to get a picture. Where do you get your market research from? What a load of actual nonsence. I went to the post office in Monkmoor today to buy a stamp and a chap behind the counter had an Exeter City jacket on. I didnt see any other shirt in the 100 odd yard walk back to my house so I draw the conclusion that Exeter City are the best supported team in the Monkmoor area of Shrewsbury. Fact. Here's a few little 'facts' from a Man Met Uni survey that was taken in 2001 on this very subject where both clubs gave the details of season ticket holders. Granted it is 10 years old and doesnt take into account City are now the biggest club in the world , it is the best direct comparison we can draw. The number of season ticket holders in the 'M' postal area. Manchester City 6,678 40% Manchester United 7,808 29% This shows that numerically there are more Manchester United season ticket holders living in the ‘M’ postal area. However, there is a greater proportion of Manchester City’s total number of season ticket holders who live in an ‘M’ post-code district. I hope that clears a few things up. Ofcourse United have a global appeal and this is where your 'm56' theory might bear fruit but that was off the back of huge success in the 90's, and United have long been the best supported side in Manchester and England since years before then. The Munich disaster brought with it a lot of empathy from fans all over the country which also led to a more domestic following than that of most clubs in the country. In the immediate years after the war where United played their home matches at Maine Road, United attracted more fans than City did at their own stadium. This was an era long before Rupert Murdoch created armchair supporters and way before clubs did regular pre-season tours in Malaysia. But ofcourse the City is and always will be theirs, no level of statistics or facts will ever deny that. Lets not forget they do have the tallest floodlights in the land and once signed Spencer Prior on deadline day. The blue moon is rising, pity they are practically having to give away tickets for people to see it
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Post by theshrews81 on Sept 2, 2011 7:15:10 GMT 1
I'd say 70-30 in favour of Manchester City based upon what I've seen. How do you determine where people are from when you see them ? If they like Man Utd we know they are not from Manchester. Simples
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Sept 2, 2011 8:30:33 GMT 1
Lets not forget they do have the tallest floodlights in the land and once signed Spencer Prior on deadline day. The blue moon is rising, pity they are practically having to give away tickets for people to see it Oh dear...
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Post by gtismygod on Sept 2, 2011 10:54:20 GMT 1
roland, please take note.
why not offer deals for small bundles of say 5 games in order to fill the embarassing number of empty seats and improve the atmosphere?
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Post by Fingers on Sept 2, 2011 10:54:23 GMT 1
Like shooting fish in a barrel sometimes! MY data was collected around Albert Square / Deansgate and Arndale Centre in 2005 which makes my data more recent. I would add that the data from 2001 is quite interesting, if taken in the 2000/01 season it comes off the back of a very successful period in united's history (treble 1999, champs 2000 etc) whereas City got relegated in 2000/2001. What the data also shows is that perhaps the catchment of the M postcode shows a bias towards City - perhaps they are more loyal. Especially when you consider in 2001 that Man City were playign at Maine Road with a capacity of 35,000 compared to Man United's c65k at the time>? Thanks for backing the theory up.
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Sept 2, 2011 11:19:11 GMT 1
its all conjectutre that they wont fill the ground for the group games though... i think its more just a decent gesture by a club that pretty much dont have to worry about money... Im tempted to go watch a CL game there (never been to one before) and with JH involved its all the more intresting.. might make a Fanzine artical out of it
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Post by QuorndonShrew on Sept 2, 2011 12:02:08 GMT 1
Like shooting fish in a barrel sometimes! MY data was collected around Albert Square / Deansgate and Arndale Centre in 2005 which makes my data more recent. I would add that the data from 2001 is quite interesting, if taken in the 2000/01 season it comes off the back of a very successful period in united's history (treble 1999, champs 2000 etc) whereas City got relegated in 2000/2001. What the data also shows is that perhaps the catchment of the M postcode shows a bias towards City - perhaps they are more loyal. Especially when you consider in 2001 that Man City were playign at Maine Road with a capacity of 35,000 compared to Man United's c65k at the time>? Thanks for backing the theory up. I suppose now you're gonna tell me that it was a 35,000 sell-out every week? Capacity is irrelevant as it a 'percentage' of overall support regarding season ticket holders. I read somewhere that United have had bigger attendances than City every year since 1939. So being 'more loyal' again is where your theory is flawed again. Sadly its one of English footballs famous misconceptions that Manchester is 'blue'. Its up there with Arsenal playing the 'best football in the world', Newcastle having the 'best supporters in the world' and all that tosh about the 'electric' atmosphere at Anfield on a champions league night. Yawn yawn.
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Post by Fingers on Sept 2, 2011 13:08:21 GMT 1
Like shooting fish in a barrel sometimes! MY data was collected around Albert Square / Deansgate and Arndale Centre in 2005 which makes my data more recent. I would add that the data from 2001 is quite interesting, if taken in the 2000/01 season it comes off the back of a very successful period in united's history (treble 1999, champs 2000 etc) whereas City got relegated in 2000/2001. What the data also shows is that perhaps the catchment of the M postcode shows a bias towards City - perhaps they are more loyal. Especially when you consider in 2001 that Man City were playign at Maine Road with a capacity of 35,000 compared to Man United's c65k at the time>? Thanks for backing the theory up. I suppose now you're gonna tell me that it was a 35,000 sell-out every week? Capacity is irrelevant as it a 'percentage' of overall support regarding season ticket holders. I read somewhere that United have had bigger attendances than City every year since 1939. So being 'more loyal' again is where your theory is flawed again. Sadly its one of English footballs famous misconceptions that Manchester is 'blue'. Its up there with Arsenal playing the 'best football in the world', Newcastle having the 'best supporters in the world' and all that tosh about the 'electric' atmosphere at Anfield on a champions league night. Yawn yawn. Have you even been to Anfield on a European night? Nothing compares and I've taken in Emirates, Old Trafford, Reebok and Stamford Bridge. Larger attendances even during the 1945-53 period?
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Post by QuorndonShrew on Sept 2, 2011 13:20:07 GMT 1
I suppose now you're gonna tell me that it was a 35,000 sell-out every week? Capacity is irrelevant as it a 'percentage' of overall support regarding season ticket holders. I read somewhere that United have had bigger attendances than City every year since 1939. So being 'more loyal' again is where your theory is flawed again. Sadly its one of English footballs famous misconceptions that Manchester is 'blue'. Its up there with Arsenal playing the 'best football in the world', Newcastle having the 'best supporters in the world' and all that tosh about the 'electric' atmosphere at Anfield on a champions league night. Yawn yawn. Have you even been to Anfield on a European night? Nothing compares and I've taken in Emirates, Old Trafford, Reebok and Stamford Bridge. Larger attendances even during the 1945-53 period? No I havent and cant say I ever will as long as I'm in sound body and mind . I believe so yes, if you're referring to the years when United were playing at Maine Road, United almost always if not without fail had higher attendances than City did.
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Post by Fingers on Sept 2, 2011 13:29:46 GMT 1
Have you even been to Anfield on a European night? Nothing compares and I've taken in Emirates, Old Trafford, Reebok and Stamford Bridge. Larger attendances even during the 1945-53 period? No I havent and cant say I ever will as long as I'm in sound body and mind . I believe so yes, if you're referring to the years when United were playing at Maine Road, United almost always if not without fail had higher attendances than City did. I do like the fact the highest attendance at Maine Road was when Man united played Arsenal (I think) If you get a chance to get to Anfield on a European night then try it - it's awesome. Of course the closest they will get this season is Swansea at home
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Post by Mike on Sept 2, 2011 23:27:45 GMT 1
Manchester City had much higher attendances in the 1890's and through the early part of the 20th centurty, therefore historically and traditionally a bigger club than Manchester Utd.
Also the record attendance for a home game at an english football club is 84,569, Man City v Stoke, Maine Road, FA Cup 3rd Round 1934.
After the Munich Air Disaster in 1958, Attendances actually remained similar or went slightly down.
Man Utd have only really been selling out their stadium since the mid 1990's when they became successful and coincided this with large improvements to the stadium.
In the 1980's the capacity of Old Trafford was 60,000 according to Wikipedia but the average attendances were 45k, 44k, 41k, 42k, 42k, 46k, 40k, 39k, 36k, 39k.
Although Man Ud have clearly had higher attendances in the last few decades it swings in roundabouts as City were bigger in the early part of last century.
The fact that so many Man Utd fans keep appearing to attack City at every opportunity and using any means just highlights the fact that they are very worried about City's potential.
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Post by Mike on Sept 2, 2011 23:34:46 GMT 1
I suppose now you're gonna tell me that it was a 35,000 sell-out every week? Capacity is irrelevant as it a 'percentage' of overall support regarding season ticket holders. I read somewhere that United have had bigger attendances than City every year since 1939. So being 'more loyal' again is where your theory is flawed again. Sadly its one of English footballs famous misconceptions that Manchester is 'blue'. Its up there with Arsenal playing the 'best football in the world', Newcastle having the 'best supporters in the world' and all that tosh about the 'electric' atmosphere at Anfield on a champions league night. Yawn yawn. Have you even been to Anfield on a European night? Nothing compares and I've taken in Emirates, Old Trafford, Reebok and Stamford Bridge. Larger attendances even during the 1945-53 period? How atmospheric are the Champions League games at Anfield this season going to be.... Oh hang on
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