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Post by Shrew_Down_Under on Aug 31, 2011 0:49:22 GMT 1
Behave "Mike". It's only because you're fantasy teams full of the noisy neighbours! Big game next round! Eyyyy!
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Post by Mike on Sept 2, 2011 23:47:28 GMT 1
Hey IslayMalt look at this for an example of 'class'. www.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/Images/redissue.gifJust in case you didn't want to click through. It's Man Utd fans discussing registering on the Napoli (Man city's champions league opponents) forum, pretening to be City fans in order to wind them up and incite violence against decent Man City fans when they go away there.
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Post by Tux on Sept 3, 2011 0:18:12 GMT 1
Is the OP seriously trying to boast about his PL side ruining football? Shame on you and your plastic club.
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Post by QuorndonShrew on Sept 3, 2011 2:26:11 GMT 1
City fans are class personified. You only have to listen to their abundance of Munich songs and the way they swing their arms to emulate an aeroplane on derby day to see this. A real fitting tribute to two of their former players. If only our relationships with our local rivals was that 'classy' Imagine if heaven forbid one day the Wrexham team coach on the way back from a cup tie with Bristol Rovers veered off the severn bridge and half the team including former town players Neil Ashton and Jamie Tolley were badly injured or worse. I wonder if we'd resort to mockery in our next home game, sing chants and do impressions of people drowning. Very much doubt it. But then again we're not the 'long suffering', dedicated, supporters of the 'real' team from Manchester are we
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Post by Mike on Sept 3, 2011 10:37:41 GMT 1
City fans are class personified. You only have to listen to their abundance of Munich songs and the way they swing their arms to emulate an aeroplane on derby day to see this. A real fitting tribute to two of their former players. If only our relationships with our local rivals was that 'classy' Imagine if heaven forbid one day the Wrexham team coach on the way back from a cup tie with Bristol Rovers veered off the severn bridge and half the team including former town players Neil Ashton and Jamie Tolley were badly injured or worse. I wonder if we'd resort to mockery in our next home game, sing chants and do impressions of people drowning. Very much doubt it. But then again we're not the 'long suffering', dedicated, supporters of the 'real' team from Manchester are we The vast majority of City fans don't need to stoop to such levels. But you always have a minority at any club that will.... www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Ex-Liverpool-striker-John-Aldridge-slams-Manchester-United-fans-for-abusive-Hillsborough-and-Heysel-chants-at-youth-match-article713603.htmlPure Class....
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Post by Hatfieldshrew on Sept 3, 2011 10:39:33 GMT 1
City fans are class personified. You only have to listen to their abundance of Munich songs and the way they swing their arms to emulate an aeroplane on derby day to see this. A real fitting tribute to two of their former players. If only our relationships with our local rivals was that 'classy' Imagine if heaven forbid one day the Wrexham team coach on the way back from a cup tie with Bristol Rovers veered off the severn bridge and half the team including former town players Neil Ashton and Jamie Tolley were badly injured or worse. I wonder if we'd resort to mockery in our next home game, sing chants and do impressions of people drowning. Very much doubt it. But then again we're not the 'long suffering', dedicated, supporters of the 'real' team from Manchester are we I don't support the idea of people fun out of some one else's loss, but. There is a slight difference between what happened in Munich and if it happened to Wrexham. The main one is we still wouldn't be seeing programs about it 30 years later or still having sports pundits talking about on the anniversary every year, with Wrexham some one might say something a week after or maybe a year later if they were lucky.
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Post by QuorndonShrew on Sept 3, 2011 12:46:45 GMT 1
City fans are class personified. You only have to listen to their abundance of Munich songs and the way they swing their arms to emulate an aeroplane on derby day to see this. A real fitting tribute to two of their former players. If only our relationships with our local rivals was that 'classy' Imagine if heaven forbid one day the Wrexham team coach on the way back from a cup tie with Bristol Rovers veered off the severn bridge and half the team including former town players Neil Ashton and Jamie Tolley were badly injured or worse. I wonder if we'd resort to mockery in our next home game, sing chants and do impressions of people drowning. Very much doubt it. But then again we're not the 'long suffering', dedicated, supporters of the 'real' team from Manchester are we I don't support the idea of people fun out of some one else's loss, but. There is a slight difference between what happened in Munich and if it happened to Wrexham. The main one is we still wouldn't be seeing programs about it 30 years later or still having sports pundits talking about on the anniversary every year, with Wrexham some one might say something a week after or maybe a year later if they were lucky. Yeah but why do people bang on about Hillsborough more than they do about the fire at Valley Parade or the Ibrox disaster? Why is the anniversary of 9/11 always more of a deal than that of 7/7? Doesnt make it any more/less of a disaster, and its certaintly doesnt give anybody the right to use it as a way of mockery.
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Post by Pilch on Sept 3, 2011 13:26:45 GMT 1
City fans are class personified. You only have to listen to their abundance of Munich songs and the way they swing their arms to emulate an aeroplane on derby day to see this. A real fitting tribute to two of their former players. If only our relationships with our local rivals was that 'classy' Imagine if heaven forbid one day the Wrexham team coach on the way back from a cup tie with Bristol Rovers veered off the severn bridge and half the team including former town players Neil Ashton and Jamie Tolley were badly injured or worse. I wonder if we'd resort to mockery in our next home game, sing chants and do impressions of people drowning. Very much doubt it. But then again we're not the 'long suffering', dedicated, supporters of the 'real' team from Manchester are we I don't support the idea of people fun out of some one else's loss, but. There is a slight difference between what happened in Munich and if it happened to Wrexham. The main one is we still wouldn't be seeing programs about it 30 years later or still having sports pundits talking about on the anniversary every year, with Wrexham some one might say something a week after or maybe a year later if they were lucky. thats a silly comment really had wrexham been one of the european giants for the last 50 years then we would be hearing about it big time they are not but even had wrexham lost most of their squad in a similar accident we would also hear about it on various anniversaries the nearest i can think of is aberfan, nothing to do with football but its always on tv come the big anniversaries, and had that disaster been in connection or close proximity to a football club then it would be mentioned for sure when they were in the spotlight on tv
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Post by Pilch on Sept 3, 2011 13:33:17 GMT 1
I don't support the idea of people fun out of some one else's loss, but. There is a slight difference between what happened in Munich and if it happened to Wrexham. The main one is we still wouldn't be seeing programs about it 30 years later or still having sports pundits talking about on the anniversary every year, with Wrexham some one might say something a week after or maybe a year later if they were lucky. Yeah but why do people bang on about Hillsborough more than they do about the fire at Valley Parade or the Ibrox disaster? Why is the anniversary of 9/11 always more of a deal than that of 7/7? Doesnt make it any more/less of a disaster, and its certaintly doesnt give anybody the right to use it as a way of mockery. maybe because its unsettled as to who was at fault
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Post by QuorndonShrew on Sept 3, 2011 13:52:45 GMT 1
City fans are class personified. You only have to listen to their abundance of Munich songs and the way they swing their arms to emulate an aeroplane on derby day to see this. A real fitting tribute to two of their former players. If only our relationships with our local rivals was that 'classy' Imagine if heaven forbid one day the Wrexham team coach on the way back from a cup tie with Bristol Rovers veered off the severn bridge and half the team including former town players Neil Ashton and Jamie Tolley were badly injured or worse. I wonder if we'd resort to mockery in our next home game, sing chants and do impressions of people drowning. Very much doubt it. But then again we're not the 'long suffering', dedicated, supporters of the 'real' team from Manchester are we The vast majority of City fans don't need to stoop to such levels. But you always have a minority at any club that will.... www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Ex-Liverpool-striker-John-Aldridge-slams-Manchester-United-fans-for-abusive-Hillsborough-and-Heysel-chants-at-youth-match-article713603.htmlPure Class.... My argument being no former United player died at Hillsborough. However deplorable those chants are and they should certaintly be stamped out of football across the board, the point I was making was City's fascination/envy of United goes as far as disrespecting their own former dead just so they can have a pop at United. The term cutting off your nose to spite your face certaintly rings true with the bitters.
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Post by Mike on Sept 3, 2011 14:13:23 GMT 1
My argument being no former United player died at Hillsborough. However deplorable those chants are and they should certaintly be stamped out of football across the board, the point I was making was City's fascination/envy of United goes as far as disrespecting their own former dead just so they can have a pop at United. The term cutting off your nose to spite your face certaintly rings true with the bitters. Splitting hairs to be honest. Man City chants about Munich are slightly worse because they had former players involved? Both as bad as each other in my book, but for Man Utd to cry about Munich songs when they dish it out regarding Hillsborough and Heysel is hypocritical. Some of the abuse aimed at Owen Hargreaves over the last few days has been disgusting. Don't think Man Utd fans actually give a s**t about their former players. The way Man Utd fans react to other teams disasters. If anything similar were to happen to Man City there would be plenty of sick rags out there dishing out abuse... Anyway GMP have been informed about inciting violence at Napoli. I think a few keyboard warrior rags might be getting a knock at the door in the next few days.
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Post by islaymalt on Sept 3, 2011 14:32:45 GMT 1
Hey IslayMalt look at this for an example of 'class'. www.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/Images/redissue.gifJust in case you didn't want to click through. It's Man Utd fans discussing registering on the Napoli (Man city's champions league opponents) forum, pretening to be City fans in order to wind them up and incite violence against decent Man City fans when they go away there. United ‘fans’ - maybe. United supporters – probably not. Well I hope not, at least. For the record I condemn and deplore – 100% - these immature keyboard warriors who would probably poo themselves if an Italian mob (or a real City mob come to that) came within a mile of them. I equally deplore - 100% - any detrimental references to Munich, Hillsborough and Heysel. To be honest, Mike, to try and suggest that” the vast majority of City fans don't need to stoop to such levels” is a bit naïve. There’s a sizable minority that take pleasure in aircraft imitations. I can’t see where you have categorically denounced these actions so I’m sure you will be happy to oblige us. If you are then I think I can safely say that, on this topic at least, we’re on the same side Cheers
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Post by QuorndonShrew on Sept 3, 2011 14:48:45 GMT 1
My argument being no former United player died at Hillsborough. However deplorable those chants are and they should certaintly be stamped out of football across the board, the point I was making was City's fascination/envy of United goes as far as disrespecting their own former dead just so they can have a pop at United. The term cutting off your nose to spite your face certaintly rings true with the bitters. Splitting hairs to be honest. Man City chants about Munich are slightly worse because they had former players involved? Both as bad as each other in my book, but for Man Utd to cry about Munich songs when they dish it out regarding Hillsborough and Heysel is hypocritical. Some of the abuse aimed at Owen Hargreaves over the last few days has been disgusting. Don't think Man Utd fans actually give a s**t about their former players. The way Man Utd fans react to other teams disasters. If anything similar were to happen to Man City there would be plenty of sick rags out there dishing out abuse... Anyway GMP have been informed about inciting violence at Napoli. I think a few keyboard warrior rags might be getting a knock at the door in the next few days. Mate, you're completely missing the point lol. In the other thread you eluded to this theory of yours that United were jealous of City and went out of their way to have a pop at them. The reference to Munich was because two of their OWN players died. The Citeh fans still 53 years later fail to see the irony in singing songs about Munich. A good proportion of City fans of this generation are ill-educated, very bitter individuals. The lengths people will go to as a desperate attempt to get one over on their rivals because of their own inferiority and lack of success/history/support is laughable.
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Post by Mike on Sept 3, 2011 14:53:05 GMT 1
I have said above they are all as bad as each other. Man City / Man Utd / Liverpool. Think it's pathetic chanting about disasters. It's just a game at the end of the day and people dying isn't really what a game is about.
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Post by Mike on Sept 3, 2011 15:01:59 GMT 1
Splitting hairs to be honest. Man City chants about Munich are slightly worse because they had former players involved? Both as bad as each other in my book, but for Man Utd to cry about Munich songs when they dish it out regarding Hillsborough and Heysel is hypocritical. Some of the abuse aimed at Owen Hargreaves over the last few days has been disgusting. Don't think Man Utd fans actually give a s**t about their former players. The way Man Utd fans react to other teams disasters. If anything similar were to happen to Man City there would be plenty of sick rags out there dishing out abuse... Anyway GMP have been informed about inciting violence at Napoli. I think a few keyboard warrior rags might be getting a knock at the door in the next few days. Mate, you're completely missing the point lol. In the other thread you eluded to this theory of yours that United were jealous of City and went out of their way to have a pop at them. The reference to Munich was because two of their OWN players died. The Citeh fans still 53 years later fail to see the irony in singing songs about Munich. A good proportion of City fans of this generation are ill-educated, very bitter individuals. The lengths people will go to as a desperate attempt to get one over on their rivals because of their own inferiority and lack of success/history/support is laughable. And the point I am making is that if Owen Hargreaves were to die tomorrow along with other memners of the Man City team (heaven forbid), it is my belief there would be Man Utd fans out there who would not care about the fact Hargreaves used to play for Man Utd and would chant about it anyway. Maybe not straight away but some years down the line. Reasons being, 1. Man Utd 'fans' have been quite willing to show chant about Hillsborough. 2. Their are a signigficant amount of Man Utd fans who have aimed disgusting comments about Hargreaves moving to Man City. Also you claim Man City fans chant about Munich because of their 'lack of success/history/support'. But Man Utd have had more success and support than Liverpool in recent years so why do Man Utd fans chant about Hillsborough? They have no reason to be jealous of Liverpool? Can you honestly say that if say 40 years ago their had been a disaster involving Man City fans or players Man Utd fans wouldn't chant about it? All the evidence suggests they most defintely would, as they do with Hillsbrough now.
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Post by QuorndonShrew on Sept 3, 2011 15:12:07 GMT 1
Mate, you're completely missing the point lol. In the other thread you eluded to this theory of yours that United were jealous of City and went out of their way to have a pop at them. The reference to Munich was because two of their OWN players died. The Citeh fans still 53 years later fail to see the irony in singing songs about Munich. A good proportion of City fans of this generation are ill-educated, very bitter individuals. The lengths people will go to as a desperate attempt to get one over on their rivals because of their own inferiority and lack of success/history/support is laughable. And the point I am making is that if Owen Hargreaves were to die tomorrow along with other memners of the Man City team (heaven forbid), it is my belief there would be Man Utd fans out there who would not care about the fact Hargreaves used to play for Man Utd and would chant about it anyway. Maybe not straight away but some years down the line. Reasons being, 1. Man Utd 'fans' have been quite willing to show chant about Hillsborough. 2. Their are a signigficant amount of Man Utd fans who have aimed disgusting comments about Hargreaves moving to Man City. Also you claim Man City fans chant about Munich because of their 'lack of success/history/support'. But Man Utd have had more success and support than Liverpool in recent years so why do Man Utd fans chant about Hillsborough? They have no reason to be jealous of Liverpool? Can you honestly say that if say 40 years ago their had been a disaster involving Man City fans or players Man Utd fans wouldn't chant about it? All the evidence suggests they most defintely would, as they do with Hillsbrough now. I don't think its even up for debate, especially in the case of Owen Hargreaves. I havent spoken to any fellow United fans who wish anything but the best of luck for him regardless of his questionable move to the berties. Trying to justify your own supporters actions by inventing hypothetical scenarios of players dying and casting presumptuous assessments of how United fans would act is clutching at very short straws. You could have just as easily used the examples of Malcolm Allison and Neil Young who have both passed away in recent times. I don't know of one United song or United supporter for that matter who have made light of these deaths and turned it into a form of mockery to get one over City. Then again the new-era of City fans who believed the club were formed in 2008 wouldnt have a clue who they were anyway
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Post by Mike on Sept 3, 2011 15:19:55 GMT 1
At the end of the day chanting about disasters is wrong.
But for Man Utd fans to claim they are victims is hypocritical, as they give as good as they get.
Also don't think Man Utd fans are in a position to mock Man City about gaining more fans since becoming successful. As I said on other thread Old Trafford didn't sell out regularly until 1995, wonder why that was?
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Post by Pilch on Sept 3, 2011 15:25:27 GMT 1
Mate, you're completely missing the point lol. In the other thread you eluded to this theory of yours that United were jealous of City and went out of their way to have a pop at them. The reference to Munich was because two of their OWN players died. The Citeh fans still 53 years later fail to see the irony in singing songs about Munich. A good proportion of City fans of this generation are ill-educated, very bitter individuals. The lengths people will go to as a desperate attempt to get one over on their rivals because of their own inferiority and lack of success/history/support is laughable. And the point I am making is that if Owen Hargreaves were to die tomorrow along with other memners of the Man City team (heaven forbid), it is my belief there would be Man Utd fans out there who would not care about the fact Hargreaves used to play for Man Utd and would chant about it anyway. Maybe not straight away but some years down the line. Reasons being, 1. Man Utd 'fans' have been quite willing to show chant about Hillsborough. 2. Their are a signigficant amount of Man Utd fans who have aimed disgusting comments about Hargreaves moving to Man City. Also you claim Man City fans chant about Munich because of their 'lack of success/history/support'. But Man Utd have had more success and support than Liverpool in recent years so why do Man Utd fans chant about Hillsborough? They have no reason to be jealous of Liverpool? Can you honestly say that if say 40 years ago their had been a disaster involving Man City fans or players Man Utd fans wouldn't chant about it? All the evidence suggests they most defintely would, as they do with Hillsbrough now. what are you trying to achieve here ? you are highlighting a few stories where maybe up to half a dozen idiots are out to cause trouble every club has them, including our own shrewsbury you are trying to make it sound like its united fans in general pathetic
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Post by Pilch on Sept 3, 2011 15:28:38 GMT 1
like i said every club has morons
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Post by Mike on Sept 3, 2011 15:33:17 GMT 1
Pilch, have you actually read this thread? You are just repeating what I said earlier.
One poster mentioned Munich. I said, it was a minority and highlighted a minority of Man Utd fans that sang about Hillsborough and Heysel.
Deja - vu.
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Post by Mike on Sept 3, 2011 15:34:57 GMT 1
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Post by Pilch on Sept 3, 2011 15:41:05 GMT 1
yes i read the thread
you started off a thread about man city islay joined in the banter, hinting united were a class team
and you lowered the tone by linking to a 6 month old story when half a dozen idiots were singing about hillsborough ?
as i mentioned pathetic
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Post by Mike on Sept 3, 2011 15:47:33 GMT 1
No. The poster gebbashrew77 posted at 2.26 am about Man City fans chanting about the Munich disaster.
As a response I posted at 10.37 am about Man Utd fans chanting about Hillsborough to highlight that Man Utd also chant about disasters.
As I mentioned read the thread.
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Post by Pilch on Sept 3, 2011 15:56:11 GMT 1
No. The poster gebbashrew77 posted at 2.26 am about Man City fans chanting about the Munich disaster. As a response I posted at 10.37 am about Man Utd fans chanting about Hillsborough to highlight that Man Utd also chant about disasters. As I mentioned read the thread. but yesterday your reply to islays 'class' was to divert the thread to a story about some other message board where supposedly man u fans were plotting to cause trouble for man city more than likely what gebba replied to
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Post by Mike on Sept 3, 2011 16:00:15 GMT 1
And....
I didn't post about disasters.
Gebba made the first post about disasters. Not me.
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Post by QuorndonShrew on Sept 3, 2011 16:00:30 GMT 1
this thread is boring now . Why it was started anyway, I mean what relevence does a Man City thread have on a Shrewsbury forum? And there's two of them now! That goes for United aswell. I hate to think I preach Manchester United on here because I dont, but you defend what you believe in and I simply had to point out that these mis-conceptions of all Manchester being blue and United fans lacking class compared their neighbours is factually wrong. You can't be any more conclusive than that lol.
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Post by grinfish on Sept 3, 2011 16:16:37 GMT 1
It only just got boring for you now?
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Post by QuorndonShrew on Sept 3, 2011 16:18:12 GMT 1
haha! fair point
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Post by Pilch on Sept 3, 2011 16:20:48 GMT 1
yes this thread is boring for me too now, especially since Mike has probably realised i did read the thread and it was actually him who hijacked his own thread and flew it to cuba
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Sept 3, 2011 16:20:51 GMT 1
Time to close this thread I think. Gone off on a tangent.
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