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Post by Shrewed on Aug 6, 2011 17:33:59 GMT 1
Town weren't bad but equally they weren't good an average day at the office. Very difficult to find man of the match, but we lack anyone with any creativity and central midfield was only ok.
On today's performance Reid has got to be happier manager, Plymouth with finish above town
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Post by Jonah on Aug 6, 2011 17:37:56 GMT 1
Not there Ed but obviously 2 points dropped then?
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Post by Pilch on Aug 6, 2011 17:39:19 GMT 1
not sure if we dropped 2 points or gained a point Not sure if we used the subs to our advantage
Same old town really
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Aug 6, 2011 17:41:05 GMT 1
Were we at the same game??
The first half was bitty but we took the game to them for most of the second half, creating chances a plenty and had we (Morgan in particular) finished a little better the game would have been done and dusted and we'd quite possibly be top.
Plymouth were effective but only the winger number 7 had any flair or creativity on their team, Reid should be delighted with a point but I suspect Turner will be more pleased by the performance.
Any I saw nothing to suggest Plymouth will finish above us, I honestly feel if we play like that and create that many chances in every game we'll win a far lot more games than we lose.
Ainsworth, Wroe and Collins stood out for me.
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Post by blazey on Aug 6, 2011 17:41:35 GMT 1
We had a great 30 odd minutes in the second half. Lionel was sublime. If we had taken our chances we would have run away with it.
Great play from Morgan and Wright to set up our goal too, great to see Collins almost break the back of the net!
I hope we're having MOTM poll again this season.... will be looking forward to seeing others thoughts!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2011 17:47:16 GMT 1
I thought we played very well. Wroe got forward well and Richards delivery was overall impressive, although he was a little sloppy on a couple of occasions. Man of the match Ainsworth. Sharps didn't look 100% today.
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Post by Scarecrow on Aug 6, 2011 17:47:28 GMT 1
Today was about the performance, not the result for me. It was more about seeing how we play and who to look out for. What people are forgetting are that Plymouth are a good side who have hit hard times and had something to prove to their fans today. I'd have taken a draw before the match TBH and I think on the balance of play it was the fair result.
2 great goals and a really entertaining match so no complaints from me.
Morgan looked a class player and while he did miss a hat-trick of good chances he gets the MOTM from me due to his effort throughout and general skills (excluding finishing). The only concern I saw today was Richards hasn't fixed the midfield and doesn't look like he will. We are still missing that Midfield general.
That said over the next 4-5 games when the team have bonded I think we have the elements of a very good side at this level.
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Post by lionshrew on Aug 6, 2011 17:52:10 GMT 1
Today was defintley 2 points dropped. First half felt we were pretty average. Second half we played better and were imo the better side. Need to take more of our chances and like hope2010 said need to be more creative. Great atmosphere today from both sets of fans today. Felt Ainsworth & Collins had a good game. Wroe was good as well. Morgan I feel needs to improve on his finshing. Game ended in disspointment, but still 45 more to go. Before that we've got Derby in the Carling Cup. A win there would be a huge boost to the players. So roll on Tuesday
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Post by R6ix on Aug 6, 2011 17:53:21 GMT 1
collins and aisworth were good, richards in the middle was a bit Anonymous at times, seemed a fairish result/.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2011 17:58:06 GMT 1
average really, good enough game, but not overly impressed so far. midfield still looks weak to me.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2011 18:02:27 GMT 1
Thought we just shaded the first half, but came out strong secondhalf. Chances were made, but unfortunately missed, but overall a good game apart from the result. Ainsworth played really well and i was surprised when he was subbed. Would have subbed Wright if i needed to get Taylor on. Shane C.S. played well, but he's no left back. Wroe was everywhere and Collins worked his socks off and deserved his goal. Marvin missed his chances but i am sure he will appear regularly on the score sheet in games to come. Great support from Plymouth, but i see they have almost as many knob-heads as we have. Altogether i can see good times ahead. Plymouth above Shrewsbury at end of season......NO!
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Post by Scarecrow on Aug 6, 2011 18:02:49 GMT 1
Town weren't bad but equally they weren't good an average day at the office. Very difficult to find man of the match, but we lack anyone with any creativity and central midfield was only ok. On today's performance Reid has got to be happier manager, Plymouth with finish above town
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Post by Shrewed on Aug 6, 2011 18:08:11 GMT 1
Were we at the same game?? The first half was bitty but we took the game to them for most of the second half, creating chances a plenty and had we (Morgan in particular) finished a little better the game would have been done and dusted and we'd quite possibly be top. Plymouth were effective but only the winger number 7 had any flair or creativity on their team, Reid should be delighted with a point but I suspect Turner will be more pleased by the performance. Any I saw nothing to suggest Plymouth will finish above us, I honestly feel if we play like that and create that many chances in every game we'll win a far lot more games than we lose. Ainsworth, Wroe and Collins stood out for me. Town on target 5 Off Target 6 Corners 2 Plymouth on target 6 Off Target 7 Corners 3 Without blue and amber glasses that looks fairly close.
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Post by markglasgow on Aug 6, 2011 18:11:36 GMT 1
Town weren't bad but equally they weren't good an average day at the office. Very difficult to find man of the match, but we lack anyone with any creativity and central midfield was only ok. On today's performance Reid has got to be happier manager, Plymouth with finish above town We lack anyone with any creativity? Seriously? So Ainsworth and Wright are spoiling, wide midfielders who offer nothing going forward? I would presume that Marvin Morgan is also little more than a target man who will hopefully win a few flick ons during the 90 mins? Quite enjoy your alternative bleak outlook and it does add balance to the board Ed, but sometimes you do talk nonsense.
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Post by Shrewed on Aug 6, 2011 18:19:17 GMT 1
Town weren't bad but equally they weren't good an average day at the office. Very difficult to find man of the match, but we lack anyone with any creativity and central midfield was only ok. On today's performance Reid has got to be happier manager, Plymouth with finish above town We lack anyone with any creativity? Seriously? So Ainsworth and Wright are spoiling, wide midfielders who offer nothing going forward? I would presume that Marvin Morgan is also little more than a target man who will hopefully win a few flick ons during the 90 mins? Quite enjoy your alternative bleak outlook and it does add balance to the board Ed, but sometimes you do talk nonsense. Mark, you comments would be fair if you were actually at the match, both Ainsworth and Wright held on to the ball far too long before they attempted to get ball inton the box often failing. Compared with Plymouth wide men who got the ball into the box quickly. Morgan did win a few header when Smith played hoof ball again compared with Cole Plymouth goalie who generally played the ball out via a Plymouth player. Nonsense is commenting on a game you weren't at.
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Post by shrewsace on Aug 6, 2011 18:23:42 GMT 1
I think Turner's right that it'll take us four or five game to really bed in.
Regan and Richards are both relatively late additions for the squad, and the latter looks short of match fitness, ditto Sharps.
Ainsworth was lively and if we can get that level of performance out of him more often than not he'll cause defences no end of problems.
I was impressed with Jacobsen against the 'United' XI and think we'll look better with him slotted in at left back, which has never been Sherriff's best position.
We've also got real strength in depth with players like McAllister, Gornell and Taylor on the bench - and there's Bradshaw to come back from injury, too.
We've got off to a flyer on the opening day loads of times, only for it all to come to nothing (last season being a case in point), so I'm not reading too much into today's draw.
For me it was a decent performance that suggests there'll be more to come.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Aug 6, 2011 18:23:50 GMT 1
Ainsworth was completly 100% direct in that game, Wright was dithered a bit today but I can't see how you can say Ainsworth wasn't creative today. It's all well and good getting the ball into the box early but there's no point if there's no forwards in there, I can't recall many of these early Plymout crosses troubling us.
Maybe there keeper should have hit a few longer, especially in the second half, as it allowed us to press them high up the pitch and on a couple of occasions they got themselves into a spot of bother. I prefer to call Smith's distribution long passes rather than hoof-ball, much like the cross-field winger-to-winger ball which I felt was very effective today.
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Post by markglasgow on Aug 6, 2011 18:23:57 GMT 1
We lack anyone with any creativity? Seriously? So Ainsworth and Wright are spoiling, wide midfielders who offer nothing going forward? I would presume that Marvin Morgan is also little more than a target man who will hopefully win a few flick ons during the 90 mins? Quite enjoy your alternative bleak outlook and it does add balance to the board Ed, but sometimes you do talk nonsense. Mark, you comments would be fair if you were actually at the match, both Ainsworth and Wright held on to the ball far too long before they attempted to get ball inton the box often failing. Compared with Plymouth wide men who got the ball into the box quickly. Morgan did win a few header when Smith played hoof ball again compared with Cole Plymouth goalie who generally played the ball out via a Plymouth player. Nonsense is commenting on a game you weren't at. As you quite clearly read Ed I was not commenting on the match but rather the creative abilities of some of our players.
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Post by Shrewed on Aug 6, 2011 18:30:00 GMT 1
Mark, you comments would be fair if you were actually at the match, both Ainsworth and Wright held on to the ball far too long before they attempted to get ball inton the box often failing. Compared with Plymouth wide men who got the ball into the box quickly. Morgan did win a few header when Smith played hoof ball again compared with Cole Plymouth goalie who generally played the ball out via a Plymouth player. Nonsense is commenting on a game you weren't at. As you quite clearly read Ed I was not commenting on the match but rather the creative abilities of some of our players. And I was commenting on today's performance touche
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Post by pughywasfree on Aug 6, 2011 18:38:49 GMT 1
ed you are a tit sorry but what do you exspect?
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Aug 6, 2011 18:40:59 GMT 1
When Ainsworth is in the mood there is no stopping him.
Interesting that once he went off we conceded from a move that started down that side with Taylor AWOL following the ball not the man.
I thought Morgan looked a right old handful but that's three decent chances and one of those wins us the game which is a great shame. That said, he absolutely gave their centre backs hell today, and took a bit of stick in the process.
Richards did not have a great game and while obviously having a lovely left foot, with some brilliant passing, he did also seem to get bogged down in needing to do the 50 yard glory ball which often lost possession.
Plymouth were a decent physical side and you could tell some of their players really did have a bit of class.
Wroe and Ainsworth stood out for me: I just don;t know if Richards has enough fight alongside Wroe or whether we need a spoiler in there.
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Post by Bob Rickerton on Aug 6, 2011 18:44:27 GMT 1
Mark, you comments would be fair if you were actually at the match, both Ainsworth and Wright held on to the ball far too long before they attempted to get ball inton the box often failing. Compared with Plymouth wide men who got the ball into the box quickly. Nonsense is commenting on a game you weren't at. Bemoaning the creativity and directness of our wingers, who put in three excellent crosses (one of which resulted in a goal,) and in one instance ran half the length of the pitch to present a chance on a plate for Morgan? Sounds like nonsense to me.
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Post by Shrewed on Aug 6, 2011 18:45:19 GMT 1
ed you are a tit sorry but what do you exspect? Not a lot from you that's for sure. At least everyone else who has posted have justified their views. Shame you couldn't follow suit.
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Post by markglasgow on Aug 6, 2011 18:47:58 GMT 1
As you quite clearly read Ed I was not commenting on the match but rather the creative abilities of some of our players. And I was commenting on today's performance touche So which one is it? We DO have creative players but they were poor today or we simply do not possess creative players in the squad. Either way I can disagree with both points. So Ainsworth obviously secured his many nominations for MOM for his sterling defensive work today?
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Post by Shrewed on Aug 6, 2011 18:48:09 GMT 1
Mark, you comments would be fair if you were actually at the match, both Ainsworth and Wright held on to the ball far too long before they attempted to get ball inton the box often failing. Compared with Plymouth wide men who got the ball into the box quickly. Nonsense is commenting on a game you weren't at. Bemoaning the creativity and directness of our wingers, who put in three excellent crosses (one of which resulted in a goal,) and in one instance ran half the length of the pitch to present a chance on a plate for Morgan? Sounds like nonsense to me. 3 out of a 30 opportunites is hardly a great return
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Post by vivasalopia on Aug 6, 2011 18:49:34 GMT 1
Thought that the team took a little while to get going, but once they got into gear I thought we looked quite dangerous. Ainsworth had a superb game and was a constant threat to their defense. I'd say that it's 2 points dropped although we're still not quite sure how significant those 2 points will be. Not too concerned about the result as it was the performance which was key, and I believe that there is a lot of potential in this side to get us promoted.
MoM Ainsworth although Wroe, Collins and Hazell stood out as well.
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Post by Shrewed on Aug 6, 2011 19:09:43 GMT 1
And I was commenting on today's performance touche So which one is it? We DO have creative players but they were poor today or we simply do not possess creative players in the squad. Either way I can disagree with both points. So Ainsworth obviously secured his many nominations for MOM for his sterling defensive work today? Mark as you and I are both aware fans have differing views, many fans I spoke to after the game were totally disillusioned by today's performance, however I think Ainsworth did not get a single vote for MoM on the bus I was on Collins followed by Hazell and SCS were the stand out players to them. Ainsworth might look busy but in my opinion today besides one cross created very little. Running 50 yards beating 3 players only to lose the ball is not creative which is presumably why turner took him off.
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Post by Bob Rickerton on Aug 6, 2011 19:13:51 GMT 1
Ainsworth might look busy but in my opinion today besides one cross created very little. Running 50 yards beating 3 players only to lose the ball is not creative which is presumably why turner took him off. That would be a decent point, were it not for the fact it's completely untrue. Off the top of my head, what about the two crosses from the right in the second half where Collins and Morgan should have hit the target, and the incident where he "ran 50 yards beating 3 players only to play a cutback to Morgan" who completely scuffed his shot.
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Post by soulshrew on Aug 6, 2011 19:18:30 GMT 1
Richards has a great left foot and after afew games we will see how good he is.
MOM=Ainsworth for me.
Plusses out of the game Hazell, Collins and Wroe.
Negs. Unable to close the game out with a second goal, missing far too many chances and a seemingly laboured Sharps.
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Post by Optimistic Shrew on Aug 6, 2011 19:35:26 GMT 1
Lionel was clearly our best player, one of his best performances for us. Why on earth Turner subbed him off instead of Richards or at least Wright who faded later on I'm not sure. Not sure why the wide men are getting stick from hope2010 as I think they're the best wingers in the league and I've not changed my mind. I thought the whole team (particularly Richards who I thought had a shocking game) didn't quite look match fit and we were tiring at the end. Perhaps if we had a couple more friendlies under the belt we could have hold on. As for Plymouth finishing above us - I'd say they'll be around mid table. We'll be in the mix up as per usual but I thought it was a very encouraging performance and something to build on. It's only a start and there are 135 more points up for grabs. Normally a 90th minute equaliser against us and it takes some time for me to get over it, but I'm not too downbeat but I think it's most definetely 2 points dropped as we dominated a vast amount of the second half and cocked up a few chances that we should have done better on. Ainsworth, Wroe and Collins really impressed me, but I'd make one change for the Derby game - Richards out and McAllister in. A midfielder coming in on loan would be even better.
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