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Post by muxtonshrew on Jul 22, 2011 22:07:36 GMT 1
Who was he? Looked good
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Post by Dale on Jul 22, 2011 22:13:42 GMT 1
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Post by stfctippy on Jul 22, 2011 22:27:18 GMT 1
he was very good in my opinion. always alert and prepared to go get the ball rather than wait for it. he did the basics well and put in tackles and blocks at important times so turner Sign Him Up XD
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Post by oteley on Jul 22, 2011 22:46:24 GMT 1
Another feisty diminutive midfielder?! No thanks, we've got McAllister who fits that description. We need an imposing physical prescence who attempts to cover as much ground as possible. This failure to fill the important central midfield position has gone on for years and on evidence to date shows no sign of reaching a conclusion.
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Post by saloplad93 on Jul 22, 2011 22:52:10 GMT 1
His best asset is his versatility. He can play centre mid as we saw today and seemed to grow into the role, but he can also play left back and left mid and that would be a huge asset to the squad and could see him filling a big gap on the bench, particully with the new sub rule
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Post by oteley on Jul 22, 2011 22:56:11 GMT 1
His best asset is his versatility. He can play centre mid as we saw today and seemed to grow into the role, but he can also play left back and left mid and that would be a huge asset to the squad and could see him filling a big gap on the bench, particully with the new sub rule Ok but that doesn't mean he's the answer to the longstanding issue of the lack of a dominant central midfielder. Keep looking Turner.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2011 23:21:51 GMT 1
How on earth was he good, he was worse than Macca and Disley, he was slow, short and he lacked intrest, he was pretty poor, Walsall where terrible as i remember so its not a surprise he was there. If thats whats Turner is looking at i am very worried
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Post by elmundo on Jul 22, 2011 23:24:38 GMT 1
How on earth was he good, he was worse than Macca and Disley, he was slow, short and he lacked intrest, he was pretty poor, Walsall where terrible as i remember so its not a surprise he was there. If thats whats Turner is looking at i am very worried Couldn't disagree with you more. Thought it took him a while to get into the game, but once he did, he put his foot in, looked good on the ball and was popping up in both boxes. Also showed excellent vision and craft in his pass to Morgan for our second goal. Definitely worth another look in my humble opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2011 23:26:22 GMT 1
actually we should sign him........we'll have nothing to moann about and will have to pick on good players
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2011 23:26:35 GMT 1
How on earth was he good, he was worse than Macca and Disley, he was slow, short and he lacked intrest, he was pretty poor, Walsall where terrible as i remember so its not a surprise he was there. If thats whats Turner is looking at i am very worried Give the bloke a chance, ffs! GT said post match that Richards had not had pre-season so he's going to be behind on fitness levels to an extent..what with the flack that Summerfield took from some quarters and now Richards, well, whoever we get in is going to have to be out of this world to satisfy some B&A posters!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2011 23:31:28 GMT 1
but hes not the player, its not giving a chance hes not the right player, we are to lightweight and im sorry but he does not solve our needs, hes a not very good McAllister, i dont care if hes not had much of a pre season if we dont need him why sign him, after what we have let go thats poor
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Post by shrewd67 on Jul 22, 2011 23:37:17 GMT 1
but hes not the player, its not giving a chance hes not the right player, we are to lightweight and im sorry but he does not solve our needs, hes a not very good McAllister, i dont care if hes not had much of a pre season if we dont need him why sign him, after what we have let go thats poor Totally agree. We have been too lightweight in central midfield for years and this player is not the answer and if that's the case then let him go.
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Post by prawnsarnie on Jul 22, 2011 23:39:24 GMT 1
Glimpses of quality link up play- at least twice set up by Morgan and when sharper would score. Got into attacking positions well to support the front line which is something we haven't seen too often from CM. One or two nice passes including the one for Morgan's goal. Given time he could become a legend. Great reaction from all during his warm down too.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2011 23:43:36 GMT 1
Morgan was offside, and yes Shrewd67, too lightweight and he wont solve our troubles
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Post by elmundo on Jul 22, 2011 23:47:44 GMT 1
Morgan was offside, and yes Shrewd67, too lightweight and he wont solve our troubles Morgan was dead level. Was sat right in line.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2011 23:52:09 GMT 1
even Morgan was looking at the lino waiting, the defenders would of tryed harder, he was a mile off
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Post by Ned on Jul 22, 2011 23:56:11 GMT 1
even Morgan was looking at the lino waiting, the defenders would of tryed harder, he was a mile off Does it really matter? It's a pre-season friendly, nobody will lose any sleep.
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Post by elmundo on Jul 22, 2011 23:57:40 GMT 1
even Morgan was looking at the lino waiting, the defenders would of tryed harder, he was a mile off He was level. Players often have a look at the lino to check, but it doesn't mean they are offside automatically!!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2011 23:59:15 GMT 1
No, it doesnt mean people will lose sleep, but im stating he looked offside,
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2011 0:28:17 GMT 1
Looked good to me, considering he isnt anywhere near fitness aparently, and has never played with us, he linked up well, knocked it around and found himself getting beyond the strikers on a few occasions, great ball for Morgans goal but could have had a couple himself.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2011 9:08:48 GMT 1
Wasnt there last night and know little about the player but it does make me laugh how some people are obsessed with getting a tall, strong player who gives 100% and runs around alot but no mention of footballing ability whatsoever.
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Post by shrewblue on Jul 23, 2011 9:34:15 GMT 1
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Post by Shrewed on Jul 23, 2011 10:08:09 GMT 1
Wasnt there last night and know little about the player but it does make me laugh how some people are obsessed with getting a tall, strong player who gives 100% and runs around alot but no mention of footballing ability whatsoever. Paul I think it is down to the fact that far too often last season we lost out the midfield battle to teams with less skillful but bigger and stronger players. Too often in this division it is battlers than win out.
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Post by CEJ on Jul 23, 2011 10:57:08 GMT 1
I am not implying that Mat Richards is in the same league as Tony Kelly - but by a long stretch of the imagination Tony was not the most mobile of midfielders or good header of the ball - but he could certainly pick a pass, take a dead ball kick and score his fair share of goals for a midfielder and I believe Mat Richards could give us these qualities in the coming season.
It should be noted Walsall offered him a new contract in League 1 for the coming season so they must have thought he still had something to offer in a league above us.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2011 11:11:02 GMT 1
Having the comments on that page, it looks like Walsall could well offer him a 'new' contract. It wasn't a case of him turning them down, just the 30 day period in which he had to reply running out. If they do give him another offer, you would have to think he would accept it. I thought he came into the game well yesterday and agree with most of the comments about him lacking fitness but that should improve. Given his past pedigree I would like to see him signed up and think Richards and McAllister in the centre could go a way to solving our problems.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2011 11:28:43 GMT 1
Ed i thought the biggest problem was lack of creativity, unwillingness to get into the box and lack of goals?
So is it creative goalscorers we are missing or strong 'battlers'?
If your saying a midfield of battlers triumph over ability then Im surprised we didnt storm the league during the Jake years with a midfield containing the likes of Preece, Jobling and Wilding
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2011 11:35:36 GMT 1
Ed i thought the biggest problem was lack of creativity, unwillingness to get into the box and lack of goals? So is it creative goalscorers we are missing or strong 'battlers'? If your saying a midfield of battlers triumph over ability then Im surprised we didnt storm the league during the Jake years with a midfield containing the likes of Preece, Jobling and Wilding LOL
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Post by Shrewed on Jul 23, 2011 11:47:02 GMT 1
Ed i thought the biggest problem was lack of creativity, unwillingness to get into the box and lack of goals? So is it creative goalscorers we are missing or strong 'battlers'? If your saying a midfield of battlers triumph over ability then Im surprised we didnt storm the league during the Jake years with a midfield containing the likes of Preece, Jobling and Wilding Paul rather than trying and failing to score points how about you tell us how many games last season our central midfield actually dominated the centre of the park, far less that half. Just because a player is tall and strong does not preclude him being creative, goal scorer and getting in the opponents box. If you'd like to see 2 5 foot 7 central midfielders who can pass the ball fine thats call, seems your mate Paul agrees with you.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2011 11:57:50 GMT 1
Ed i thought the biggest problem was lack of creativity, unwillingness to get into the box and lack of goals? So is it creative goalscorers we are missing or strong 'battlers'? If your saying a midfield of battlers triumph over ability then Im surprised we didnt storm the league during the Jake years with a midfield containing the likes of Preece, Jobling and Wilding Paul rather than trying and failing to score points how about you tell us how many games last season our central midfield actually dominated the centre of the park, far less that half. Just because a player is tall and strong does not preclude him being creative, goal scorer and getting in the opponents box. If you'd like to see 2 5 foot 7 central midfielders who can pass the ball fine thats call, seems your mate Paul agrees with you. I can't speak for the other Paul but I think we are both a bit amused as how your arguments seem to change daily in an attempt to back up you negative claim that we are currently a bottom half side. There is not many of us that don't know that central midfield is an area in the squad that needs strengthening. But, bearing in mind the obvious improvement, Wroe and Davies brought from January onwards last season and that Macallster is clearly back to full fitness, it wouldn't be the end of the world if Wroe and Mac started our first match. The whole midfield unit includes the wide players and I think our quartet of wingers are as exciting as anyone's in this league.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2011 13:18:03 GMT 1
Ed i thought the biggest problem was lack of creativity, unwillingness to get into the box and lack of goals? So is it creative goalscorers we are missing or strong 'battlers'? If your saying a midfield of battlers triumph over ability then Im surprised we didnt storm the league during the Jake years with a midfield containing the likes of Preece, Jobling and Wilding Paul rather than trying and failing to score points how about you tell us how many games last season our central midfield actually dominated the centre of the park, far less that half. Just because a player is tall and strong does not preclude him being creative, goal scorer and getting in the opponents box. If you'd like to see 2 5 foot 7 central midfielders who can pass the ball fine thats call, seems your mate Paul agrees with you. Ed, firstly this is an internet football messageboard and I dont know anyone personally on here. Can you tell me who I am trying to score points with? Secondly, if you post negative comments on here for a number of seasons then you have to expect some comeback and that people may get annoyed with your viewpoint so your posts will get targeted Thirdly, if you have a negative viewpoint and constantly change your arguments to meet this viewpoint, then again Im afraid people will target you My point is that many people, and of course you are included, have moaned about our central midfield for a while. Your argument in particular is that we need an attacking, goalscoring threat from the central of midfield. And to prove this point, the first thing you do when we are linked with a midfielder is look at their goalscoring record, normally followed by "not the sort of player we want", the most recent example of this is Luke Summerfield. We now have a player on trial where a few fans have said he's not the sort of player we want because he's too small or lightweight. I would have thought that a midfielder who scored 9 league goals from midfield in a struggling side in L1 would gain a massive seal of approval from yourself but shockingly this does not appear to be the case. Whilst you have not criticised the individual player, you have agreed with the viewpoint that we need big, strong, battling midfielders as these triumph over creative, skilful players in this league, your quote was Too often in this division it is battlers than win out.Hence my sarci comment regarding Jobling etc. So what is it Ed? Ive asked you before but name me a player out there that would improve the team and be the missing piece in the jigsaw and would achieve the impossible of making you happy?
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