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Post by lionshrew on Feb 13, 2011 13:40:09 GMT 1
Here they are
* Moving the FA Cup Final kick off to 5.30pm * Scrapping replays *UEFA Champions League spot for winners *Playing matches in midweek *Seeding of Premier League club until the 5th round
Don't agree with with most of the proposals at all, feel it will take away what makes the FA Cup unique.
What else can be done to increase interest?
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Post by Dancin on Feb 13, 2011 13:55:11 GMT 1
Here they are * Moving the FA Cup Final kick off to 5.30pm * Scr@pping replays *UEFA Champions League spot for winners *Playing matches in midweek *Seeding of Premier League club until the 5th round Don't agree with with most of the proposals at all, feel it will take away what makes the FA Cup unique. What else can be done to increase interest? Disagree with a lot of them, especially no replays. Champions League position for winner, possibly
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Post by theshrews81 on Feb 13, 2011 13:57:27 GMT 1
As the premier league clubs run the FA they will all be agreed and become the norm as of next year.
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Post by Pilch on Feb 13, 2011 14:05:40 GMT 1
It's pathetic it's not often a non league club or even the likes of town reach round 3 and get a plum tie It will be once in a blue moon if that goes through
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2011 14:13:35 GMT 1
Here they are * Moving the FA Cup Final kick off to 5.30pm * Scr@pping replays *UEFA Champions League spot for winners *Playing matches in midweek *Seeding of Premier League club until the 5th round Don't agree with with most of the proposals at all, feel it will take away what makes the FA Cup unique. What else can be done to increase interest? Is there already not a competition like that called the league cup??
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Post by Myddleshrew on Feb 13, 2011 14:47:40 GMT 1
Its just protectign the big clubs.
i agree with Cham,pion league spot for winners as it will make the fa cup more appealing but the rest no
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Post by Dan F on Feb 13, 2011 14:48:57 GMT 1
5.30's a bizarre time - what's the thinking there? Sure, it must still be a Saturday but it's too late for tradition and too early to have it under the spectacle of the floodlights... I'd have a hard time justifying that one. Scr@pping replays... well, at least it helps fixture congestion. Champions League spot - why not, it's devalued enough as it is, FA Cup winner is a little more prestigious than 4th. Midweek matches... same with the replays, might help congestion. Seedings until the fifth? Joke proposal, designed to get the others through. As the premier league clubs run the FA they will all be agreed and become the norm as of next year. Will you send an apology to the FA when when they aren't?
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Post by ratcliffesghost on Feb 13, 2011 15:05:45 GMT 1
5.30's a bizarre time - what's the thinking there? ITV ploy to combat the BBC viewing figures for "Hole in the wall" - BRING ON THE WALL !
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Post by onthetrain92 on Feb 13, 2011 16:28:03 GMT 1
5th round, cheating barstewards is all i can say. all to favour the big 8. Champions league Spot definately for the winners. I also think that 3rd 4th 5th and 6th in the Premier league should have a play off system for the 3rd champions league spot. Just look at the revenue you would get of that, possibly more than the premier league champions themselves. The rest of europe now does this i believe.
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Post by constantinople on Feb 13, 2011 16:34:48 GMT 1
I also think that 3rd 4th 5th and 6th in the Premier league should have a play off system for the 3rd champions league spot. Just look at the revenue you would get of that, possibly more than the premier league champions themselves. The rest of europe now does this i believe. Except for Spain, Italy, Germany, France, and in fact pretty much every major league other than the Netherlands, which only actually have the play off system for the Europa League. Once again, get your facts right.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Feb 13, 2011 17:18:54 GMT 1
How about adopting my proposal? That we tell the Premier clubs that we will run it how WE want to and if they don't like that then not to bother putting a team (including a reserve team which devalues the competition).
I'm sure if the winners were granted a Champions League place then the FA should tell them to get lost with all the other stupid ideas.
How about we actually leave one competition just like it has always been?
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Post by eclipsechaser on Feb 13, 2011 17:39:39 GMT 1
Once again the FA are doing everything that is wrong in football They are not fit to be in charge and make such ludicrous amendments . If they change it to this extent , the F A Cup will have actually come to an end . Its about time that the Championship , Leagues 1 & 2 and some of the lower Prem teams should break away and form the REAL FA . Lets get back to basics eg. matches should be played at 3pm on Saturday afternoon . Let the Premiercrap suffocate in their isolation !
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Post by Ned on Feb 13, 2011 17:42:41 GMT 1
Where did you hear this?
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Post by Dan F on Feb 13, 2011 18:02:30 GMT 1
It's in the News of the World today, for one.
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Post by onthetrain92 on Feb 13, 2011 20:01:08 GMT 1
I also think that 3rd 4th 5th and 6th in the Premier league should have a play off system for the 3rd champions league spot. Just look at the revenue you would get of that, possibly more than the premier league champions themselves. The rest of europe now does this i believe. Except for Spain, Italy, Germany, France, and in fact pretty much every major league other than the Netherlands, which only actually have the play off system for the Europa League. Once again, get your facts right. Oooo **** you, just a suggestion, again i word it wrong must have been the beer from the night before, what i meant to say was ........every other league in Europe is looking at doing this and that in Holland they actually do it although be it for the Europa League. We do it in this country for our other leagues why not for a place in Europe? Surely promotion between division is more important, hopefully the monopoly would break up a bit between the top clubs if this was done.
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Post by constantinople on Feb 13, 2011 20:19:14 GMT 1
Except for Spain, Italy, Germany, France, and in fact pretty much every major league other than the Netherlands, which only actually have the play off system for the Europa League. Once again, get your facts right. must have been the beer from the night before Seriously though, whilst it would be a fantastic spectacle to have at the end of the season, in my opinion that would be the only benefit. It's hardly as if top-end Premier League clubs are in any great need of a couple of extra games' worth of revenue, and I reckon it's a bit harsh to reduce something as important as Champions League football to the relative lottery of a play off if a team has, over 38 games, shown they are the 4th best team in the League (I know it's a similar story with Football League play offs, but there you go).
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Feb 21, 2011 11:19:47 GMT 1
Just listened to the 606 from Saturday and the seeding was the main topic, glad to say most callers were against the idea. Anyone else listen in? It was Mike Parry’s first time on 606 and he was pushing the idea of seeding. I’m not for seeding but I think a European place for the winner (as it once was) is the right way to go...
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Post by Mike on Feb 21, 2011 11:49:53 GMT 1
Here we go again....
If it aint broke.....
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Post by mosers91 on Feb 21, 2011 12:07:33 GMT 1
These proposals are almont certain to kill the FA Cup.
In my opinion the only thing that needs to be done is allow those teams still involved in Europe when the 3rd round draw is made to enter the competition in Round 4 or 5.
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Post by stfcfan87 on Feb 21, 2011 12:14:30 GMT 1
Just listened to the 606 from Saturday and the seeding was the main topic, glad to say most callers were against the idea. Anyone else listen in? It was Mike Parry’s first time on 606 and he was pushing the idea of seeding. I’m not for seeding but I think a European place for the winner (as it once was) is the right way to go... I listened as I normally do. Had to turn it off I'm afraid for the first time in memory (where I've actually been in a position to listen to it). I gave him a chance but his ridiculous opinions on trying to ensure a top 4 club was always in the final and his total disrespect for some of the callers e.g. the sheff wednesday one - was awful. I know there's some who don't like Alan Green or Robbie Savage because of they are deemed too opinionated or controversial but Parry was ten times worse and actually made the show about him and his opinions rather than the callers. For me Savage has actually become pretty funny on the show, particularly when Mark Chapman or Darren Fletcher are on with him and keep him in check when he goes too far or mock him, but Parry was just a total joke. I can remember listening to him and Adrian Durham on talksport and i just constantly thought 'what a total moron'.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Feb 21, 2011 12:25:14 GMT 1
Just listened to the 606 from Saturday and the seeding was the main topic, glad to say most callers were against the idea. Anyone else listen in? It was Mike Parry’s first time on 606 and he was pushing the idea of seeding. I’m not for seeding but I think a European place for the winner (as it once was) is the right way to go... I listened as I normally do. Had to turn it off I'm afraid for the first time in memory (where I've actually been in a position to listen to it). I gave him a chance but his ridiculous opinions on trying to ensure a top 4 club was always in the final and his total disrespect for some of the callers e.g. the sheff wednesday one - was awful. I know there's some who don't like Alan Green or Robbie Savage because of they are deemed too opinionated or controversial but Parry was ten times worse and actually made the show about him and his opinions rather than the callers. For me Savage has actually become pretty funny on the show, particularly when Mark Chapman or Darren Fletcher are on with him and keep him in check when he goes too far or mock him, but Parry was just a total joke. I can remember listening to him and Adrian Durham on talksport and i just constantly thought 'what a total moron'. One of the callers did ask whether he was just trying to make an impact on his first showing and maybe he had something in that... Agree about his opinions, they were ridiculous...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2011 13:10:55 GMT 1
the only one I'd slightly agree with is the scrap the replays one
it may encourage sides to go for it even more perhaps, that side the gate money for the replay leg could hurt the smaller clubs, therefore perhaps am option for the game to be played at the bigger venue for more money,
the seeding one is a joke,
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Feb 21, 2011 13:21:09 GMT 1
Seeding the premier league clubs until the 5th round is just daft.
Seeding them at the third round stage (so they can't play each other) would be great to give more smaller clubs a pay day.
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Post by mrbunny on Feb 21, 2011 13:26:08 GMT 1
Seeding the premier league clubs until the 5th round is just daft. Seeding them at the third round stage (so they can't play each other) would be great to give more smaller clubs a pay day. Agree with that, though you would miss out on great ties like Man Utd v Liverpool that we had this year.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Feb 21, 2011 13:39:04 GMT 1
I think Parry was suggesting that the seeding should start at the 5th round if I recall right. His argument being that it is important for the Cup to have a final that everyone would be interested in, would want to watch, a game worthy of the final. As in, involving the top four and everything should be put in place to make this as much a formality as possible. I think it may have been lost on him that for the most part the top four do play in the final anyhows and they are normally anything but a match worthy of the final and that seeing the same clubs making it to the final makes it predictable and boring. He even suggested to supporters of clubs down the leagues that they were selfish in wanting to see their team in the Cup final because it means the best clubs are not involved (meaning it wouldn’t be the best of games). That, he said, was not for the greater good...
It’s the first time I have ever caught him on the radio and the more I think about what he said the worse he came across to be honest…
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Post by lionshrew on Feb 21, 2011 14:08:35 GMT 1
Feel replays shuld stay, it gives teams like Leyton Orient & Notts County a chance for a massive pay day.
Replays are also a good way to give teams another chance to win by playing football and not just kicking a ball from 12 yards out.
Seeding, I'm against that too, one of the things I love about The FA Cup is that it is pot luck who you get you could get Man United or get some non league side and that is what makes it exciting.
I always look forward to the FA Cup draw.
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Post by Pilch on Feb 21, 2011 14:09:47 GMT 1
The fa stink So much for respect and grass roots eh
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Feb 21, 2011 14:14:25 GMT 1
The fa stink So much for respect and grass roots eh Here here ****ing hell, I've just agreed with Pilch
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Post by Ned on Feb 21, 2011 14:20:26 GMT 1
The fa stink So much for respect and grass roots eh Flippin hell, I've just agreed with Pilch Have a word.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Feb 21, 2011 14:21:46 GMT 1
Flippin hell, I've just agreed with Pilch Have a word. Eh?
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