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Post by floreatsalopia1 on Feb 12, 2011 20:40:24 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2011 20:42:57 GMT 1
Its hard to play passing football against a side like that, we definetly looked more threatening going forwards then they did, they weren't the worst side we have played this season but both home and away they were very direct.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Feb 12, 2011 20:43:21 GMT 1
90% of the time a team loses it's because they were rubbish, not cos the other team was actually quite good.
We had to play Stevenage's game today, and we did well to take the three points.
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Post by Liam on Feb 12, 2011 20:43:38 GMT 1
If they hadn't set out for a 0-0 draw from the first minute, then both teams might have had more of a chance to show what they could do.
As it was, they only came out to make a game of it after half-time.
He's right to suggest that it wasn't a classic, but that's at least as much down to Westley's tactics as it was to anything else.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2011 20:45:45 GMT 1
Reminded me of MK Dons when Martin Allen was in charge, albeit with less quality.
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Post by hooverfoxhat on Feb 12, 2011 20:59:19 GMT 1
Strong and a physical presence all over the park, closed us down and there won't be many other sides who take 4points or more off them, I thought they executed their gameplan well and not a bad side at all, certainly not the dirty side some seemed to think they were and I've certainly seen alot worse teams this season.
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Post by sgd on Feb 12, 2011 21:04:21 GMT 1
30 minutes into each game they have a player who feins injury so that they can have a "time-out" style chat with their zoo keeper,sorry that was a typo, I meant manager.
Why do ref's allow this?
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Post by Liam on Feb 12, 2011 21:08:38 GMT 1
Strong and a physical presence all over the park, closed us down and there won't be many other sides who take 4points or more off them, I thought they executed their gameplan well and not a bad side at all, certainly not the dirty side some seemed to think they were and I've certainly seen alot worse teams this season. I was cursing them at times for being dirty. However, having thought about it, I think 'physical' is maybe a fairer description. For all the tough tackles, and the occasional cynical foul, there wasn't actually that much in the way of dissent, diving, studs-up tackling, off-the-ball incidents, handbags, etc that would justify calling them dirty. Basically, they're not a nice side to play against but they didn't cross the line today, and so you have to say that Westley's not done a bad job there. Like you said, not many teams will take 4 points off them, so let's give the lads credit for nicking it in a bruising encounter.
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Post by texmexshrew on Feb 12, 2011 21:38:14 GMT 1
Reminded me of MK Dons when Martin Allen was in charge, albeit with less quality. Mate, I was thinking the same thing. Equally unpallatable person Mr Westley, and his team who play anti football. Organised. Physical. Two words banded about today in the stands. Add cynical to that. I thought the ref played to their gameplan today, and almost encouraged it. 4 mins extra time turned out to be 5 1/2...and the relentless tripping, blocking, diving, niggling I think really wore us down in this period. A team of clones. All huge, one player (who needed the timeout) who looked lively. Centre halves could have been strikers and vice versa. A real joy for the Stevenage fans to watch that week in week out as they kicked their way out of the conference. We couldnt play due to their tactics and fair play to them they stuck to it. No doubt who were the better footballing team , but today we also battled for the win.
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Post by Liam on Feb 12, 2011 21:56:30 GMT 1
Just had a scan of the League 2 messagebord and saw that John Sheridan, the Chesterfield manager, described them the other week as "the England Body Builders Team." Clearly he thought they were a tough bunch too. When you've gone up against a side like that twice and got 4 points, you can be quite happy with yourselves.
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Post by Aub on Feb 12, 2011 21:57:43 GMT 1
Don`t really care what their fans think. We`ve played 31 games and they`ve seen us twice. Perhaps they ought to ask Lincoln fans their opinion of us.
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Post by daveshrew on Feb 12, 2011 22:11:30 GMT 1
This comment summed it up nicely I think.
"Their guy took the goal extremely well which was the difference between a full strength top 3 side and under strength boro."
I agree that they were a physical side but in my opinion played good football for long spells of the game. If they had their shooting boots on they would have won.
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Post by barrynic on Feb 12, 2011 22:54:27 GMT 1
I have never seen in all my time watching Town so much shirt pulling by the opposition --------and most of it unnoticed by the deteriorating referee.
Stevenage got exactly what their tactics deserved....nothing.
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Post by jaytee on Feb 12, 2011 23:32:12 GMT 1
Personally, I couldn't give a funkeys muck what the opposition fans think.
As Winston Churchill said, "**** 'em, they're just bad losers".........or was it Groucho Marx?......anyway, I've said it a few times myself.
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Post by nicko on Feb 13, 2011 8:38:06 GMT 1
According to their official site the "result was slightly skewed". I thought the result was fair. The amount of draws Stevenage have had tells us what to expect from them. www.stevenagefc.com/page/MatchReport/0,,10839~53000,00.html "Reminded me of MK Dons when Martin Allen was in charge, albeit with less quality" And THAT has to be the worst insult in football anybody could dish out...love it.
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Post by Dale on Feb 13, 2011 9:15:51 GMT 1
I think Mr Westley wants to learn to stay in his technical area. Did anyone ever remember the name of his 'company' that he owned whilst at Farnborough? It was called AIMITA.... ..... which apparently stands for 'Attitude Is More Important Than Ability', hmmmmmmm..............
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Post by shrewsace on Feb 13, 2011 10:17:01 GMT 1
They were a very tough side to play against and I think we did well to dig in and take all three points.
Stevenage were very physical and I felt the referee allowed them a lot of leeway with their robust style, but didn't return the favour when we responded in kind.
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Post by shrew54 on Feb 13, 2011 11:46:01 GMT 1
Martin Allen's sides are a good comparison.
Any team would find it difficult to look good against them, as they're set up to break up other teams play.
Summed it up for me in the first half when the full back hauled down Jon Taylor, and about 5 mins later good play from Wrighty and Ainsworth was stopped by a cynical foul, both players were booked.
They're next 4 games are against Oxford, Crewe, Port Vale and Cheltenham who all try to play football. It will be interesting to see how that pans out.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2011 12:42:25 GMT 1
I'll stick with the Beeb's summation of this one.
"Nicky Wroe's first half strike secured a deserved victory"
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Post by eclipsechaser on Feb 13, 2011 18:05:18 GMT 1
Stevenage = continual and persistent kicking & fouling . = timewasting by feigning injury . = cheating by diving . = total lack of skill . A hoofing team .
Shrewsbury = Skill in abundance but mercilessly chopped & hacked own at every opportunity . = Came with the attitude to win the game not get a bore draw. = Despite the inept refereeing we kept our cool and won despite the ref's best efforts to get many , many decisions wrong or ignore most fouling .
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2011 18:29:28 GMT 1
I also remember a Manager calling them a team of "Bodybuilders". Shame, because if Westley could adjust his tactics and attitude to the game of football generally, he might realise he has the makings of a team. As it was, their "STOP THEM AT ALL COSTS" gameplan backfired. Glad i don't have to watch them every other week, playing hoofball. At the end of the match i thought Harrold and their centre half had got engaged! We played as well as we could against them, and stood up against their anti-football tactics, proving we can play football if the opposition wants to play, but we can dig in and withstand a physical approach if needed. All good stuff. Referee was poor, full stop. And lets give a cheer for our keeper, who played really well today, and saved us on more than one occassion late on.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2011 18:46:27 GMT 1
We played as well as we could against them, and stood up against their anti-football tactics, proving we can play football if the opposition wants to play, but we can dig in and withstand a physical approach if needed. All good stuff. . Good point and something that was missing early season eg Gillingham away. Grandison is a good example........... him and the defence ,made the odd mistake yesterday but when the opposition got a sight of goal he seemed to turn up from nowhere with a vital block or tackle........ it's entertainment all the way with that lad. Wait until he scores lol
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Post by tvor on Feb 13, 2011 19:15:45 GMT 1
Graham Westley's comments after the match. Stevenage manager Graham Westley felt his side had been "mugged".
Westley said: "For large periods of the game we've dominated, certainly in the second half.
"People can say what they want about them maybe sitting in a bit at 1-0 but I said to Graham (Turner) at the end that I felt as though we had been mugged.
"He didn't have anything to say back to me which is probably an indication that he felt the same way."
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Post by shrew54 on Feb 13, 2011 19:47:12 GMT 1
Graham Westley's comments after the match. Stevenage manager Graham Westley felt his side had been "mugged".
Westley said: "For large periods of the game we've dominated, certainly in the second half.
"People can say what they want about them maybe sitting in a bit at 1-0 but I said to Graham (Turner) at the end that I felt as though we had been mugged.
"He didn't have anything to say back to me which is probably an indication that he felt the same way."GT probably didn't reply because it was nonsense, and he couldn't believe it. Mind you they'd know all about mugging
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Post by Liam on Feb 13, 2011 19:52:28 GMT 1
Graham Westley's comments after the match. Stevenage manager Graham Westley felt his side had been "mugged".
Westley said: "For large periods of the game we've dominated, certainly in the second half.
"People can say what they want about them maybe sitting in a bit at 1-0 but I said to Graham (Turner) at the end that I felt as though we had been mugged.
"He didn't have anything to say back to me which is probably an indication that he felt the same way." I literally never tire of seeing Westley beaten and angry - truly one of the most myopic, unlikeable characters in lower-league football, if not English football in general. He set his team out to nick a 0-0 draw and for that alone they deserved to lose, even if the balance of play had (nearly) evened-out by the end of the second half. For him to imply that they deserved to win is truly fanciful, and a quick look at the Stevenage forum will confirm that most of his club's supporters were unimpressed with his team's tactics and performance yesterday.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2011 20:11:42 GMT 1
Graham Westley's comments after the match. Stevenage manager Graham Westley felt his side had been "mugged".
Westley said: "For large periods of the game we've dominated, certainly in the second half.
"People can say what they want about them maybe sitting in a bit at 1-0 but I said to Graham (Turner) at the end that I felt as though we had been mugged.
"He didn't have anything to say back to me which is probably an indication that he felt the same way." I literally never tire of seeing Westley beaten and angry - truly one of the most myopic, unlikeable characters in lower-league football, if not English football in general. He set his team out to nick a 0-0 draw and for that alone they deserved to lose, even if the balance of play had (nearly) evened-out by the end of the second half. For him to imply that they deserved to win is truly fanciful, and a quick look at the Stevenage forum will confirm that most of his club's supporters were unimpressed with his team's tactics and performance yesterday. He was being a prick on the touchline all game, along with the tall black bloke who jumped up everynow and then.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Feb 13, 2011 21:07:51 GMT 1
"People can say what they want about them maybe sitting in a bit at 1-0 but I said to Graham (Turner) at the end that I felt as though we had been mugged. "He didn't have anything to say back to me which is probably an indication that he felt the same way." [/i] [/quote] GT probably didn't have much to say to you cos he thought you being a prize w@nl<er to come up with comments like that
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Post by eclipsechaser on Feb 14, 2011 0:31:11 GMT 1
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Post by SeanBroseley on Feb 14, 2011 9:11:35 GMT 1
Randomly, I've just realised that both managers are in their second spells at their respective clubs. Pulis, Dalglish and Gradi are too, are there any others?
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Post by texmexshrew on Feb 14, 2011 11:19:39 GMT 1
Randomly, I've just realised that both managers are in their second spells at their respective clubs. Pulis, Dalglish and Gradi are too, are there any others? Darren Ferguson at Peterborough.
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