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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2011 18:07:25 GMT 1
What with the mass exodus of Simpson's former signings in recent months,
Bright, L.Neal, Holden and Robinson, - I wonder who's next
personally I don't think it will be too long before Van Den Broek goes, I wouldn't be suprised to see C.Neal leave and possibly Disley's contract not being renewed,
which would leave only Sherriff and Elder left fromt the Simpson era
any thoughts?
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Post by mrbunny on Feb 2, 2011 18:16:37 GMT 1
Doubt Sherriff will be here next season, we already have Grandison and Sharps for next season and Sherriff is out of contract and no doubt on a sizable wage (as was the way with Simmo signings).
As for Disley well it may depend on whether we go up or not as to whether he stays or goes.
VDB,Neal and Elder won't be here next season.
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Post by vivasalopia on Feb 2, 2011 18:17:32 GMT 1
Van Den Broek hasn't had much of a chance to prove himself yet and has been injured for a few months so it would be very harsh to let him go. And remember Robinson is only on loan! I think Disley will still be here next season if we're in League 2, and if we're in League 1 then I think it's 50/50. Sherriff I think is good enough to stay for next season whether we get promoted or not.
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Post by PeterBroadbent on Feb 2, 2011 19:05:48 GMT 1
What a summer transfer session that was !!
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Post by venceremos on Feb 2, 2011 19:37:24 GMT 1
Doubt Sherriff will be here next season, we already have Grandison and Sharps for next season and Sherriff is out of contract and no doubt on a sizable wage (as was the way with Simmo signings). As for Disley well it may depend on whether we go up or not as to whether he stays or goes. VDB,Neal and Elder won't be here next season. Didn't Sherriff sign a 2 year deal last summer? Grandison's untried at CB for us and may be in midfield, who knows? We'll need more than two though. Elder will still be under contract for another year too. I'm sure some of Turner's signings are on a good wage too, especially as so many have come from a higher league.
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Post by shrewder on Feb 2, 2011 19:44:18 GMT 1
It would be a big mistake to let Sherrif go. Sometimes managers need to acknowledge that players signed by their predessessor may in some cases be ok.
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Post by Amsterdammer on Feb 2, 2011 19:47:08 GMT 1
Pretty sure van den Broek was given a new contract between Simpson and Turner, so you could say he's no longer a Simpson signing as the current management already had the chance to get rid but didn't take it.
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Post by Liam on Feb 2, 2011 19:51:47 GMT 1
Personally, I hope Sherriff stays. By League 2 standards, he's a footballing centre-half, and thus one you'd think would fit in with the type of football Turner supposedly wants us to play.
Elder is contracted. Doesn't mean he won't be off-loaded, off-loaded of course, but hopefully GT will at least wait until he's fully fit and run the rule over him properly before making that decision.
As for Disley, I certainly don't think he's a terrible player, but we all know centre-mid has been a problem for a long time and he probably isn't cheap wages wise, so I wouldn't be surprised to see him released.
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Post by mrbunny on Feb 2, 2011 19:59:04 GMT 1
Doubt Sherriff will be here next season, we already have Grandison and Sharps for next season and Sherriff is out of contract and no doubt on a sizable wage (as was the way with Simmo signings). As for Disley well it may depend on whether we go up or not as to whether he stays or goes. VDB,Neal and Elder won't be here next season. Didn't Sherriff sign a 2 year deal last summer? Grandison's untried at CB for us and may be in midfield, who knows? We'll need more than two though. Elder will still be under contract for another year too. I'm sure some of Turner's signings are on a good wage too, especially as so many have come from a higher league. I thought he had a one year deal. Grandison will be the 3rd and he will sign another. Just my opinion.
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Post by venceremos on Feb 2, 2011 20:01:42 GMT 1
Agree with that Liam. I think Sherriff's having a very good season and I'll accept the odd misplaced pass if it means our centre backs are trying to play football.
I think we're harsh on the centre mid players and Disley's another who I think has done pretty well. They've been made to carry the can when the defensive contribution from the wide players has sometimes been negligible. Not suprising they've then ended up playing too deep.
Besides which, Wroe has yet to play and Davis is on loan. I don't think we've sorted the problem yet so I wouldn't be hurrying Disley to the exit!
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Post by venceremos on Feb 2, 2011 20:03:31 GMT 1
Didn't Sherriff sign a 2 year deal last summer? Grandison's untried at CB for us and may be in midfield, who knows? We'll need more than two though. Elder will still be under contract for another year too. I'm sure some of Turner's signings are on a good wage too, especially as so many have come from a higher league. I thought he had a one year deal. Grandison will be the 3rd and he will sign another. Just my opinion. If Grandison's the third, and Sherriff went, who'd be the second?
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Post by mrbunny on Feb 2, 2011 20:08:50 GMT 1
I thought he had a one year deal. Grandison will be the 3rd and he will sign another. Just my opinion. If Grandison's the third, and Sherriff went, who'd be the second? Sorry meant Goldson.
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Post by venceremos on Feb 2, 2011 20:17:27 GMT 1
If Grandison's the third, and Sherriff went, who'd be the second? Sorry meant Goldson. I hope we get to see him this season. Thought he might have had a few minutes last night. He's certainly run miles up and down that touchline.
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Post by Shrewed on Feb 2, 2011 20:35:51 GMT 1
If Sherriff is the only remaining evidence of Simpson at the GM I wont lose too much sleep, might just have a little dram of the golden amber to celebrate.
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Post by hooverfoxhat on Feb 2, 2011 20:37:46 GMT 1
Wouldn't be at all surprised to see Sharps go, though not a Simpson signing, I do think he might be 1 to go
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Post by northwestman on Feb 2, 2011 21:22:03 GMT 1
No mention on here of McIntyre going..I'll assume that's because everyone on here already assumes that to be a formality.
And yes I do know he was signed by Peters..but it wasn't Peters that amazingly gave him that one year contract extension!
Perhaps his old chairman now at Wrexham might want to sign him up.
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Post by vivasalopia on Feb 2, 2011 21:28:34 GMT 1
Wouldn't be at all surprised to see Sharps go, though not a Simpson signing, I do think he might be 1 to go I think Sharps has been our best defender all season, why would he go?
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Post by hooverfoxhat on Feb 2, 2011 21:36:41 GMT 1
Wouldn't be at all surprised to see Sharps go, though not a Simpson signing, I do think he might be 1 to go I think Sharps has been our best defender all season, why would he go? Just a hunch - Grandison wasn't brought in to be right back and though club captain if the rumours have an ounce of credibilty then Sharps would be the player to make way. Sherrif has been our best defender for me this season followed by Sadler - I've seen sea going supertankers turn quicker than Sharps, good yes but cumbersome at times. I like him but as to whether he's good enough to stay remains to be seen.
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Post by texmexshrew on Feb 2, 2011 21:59:18 GMT 1
I was thinking just the same last night after reading all the comings & goings. Its a very quick turnabout, but in 5months Turner has nearly erased the deadwood left from Simpson. Robinson is out of contract at the end of the season, I think his loan will be extended, regardless he wont be here next year.
BvdB - as much as I think he could be an asset, hasnt been fit enough or found his position. i think he'll be gone. I think we'll see an experienced CH come in during the summer, possibly 2. This will see Sharps and SCS go, along with McIntyre.
Elder is the one I'm not sure on. With half his contract remaining, it'll be too expensive to settle the deal and pay off. I'd like to see him get back in the reserves after his hardwork to rebuild after injury and see him compete again. Turner has been complimentary toward him in the press. Having said that, he was about Holden recently...lol
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2011 22:48:38 GMT 1
Havent mentioned McIntyre because he's a Peters signing. But in a similar vein to Holden, there much be a shelf life of how long you can last in a team/squad for on sheer effort and determination alone.
I think that's the last we'll see of Robinson, its a similar scenario to that of Richard Walker with ourselfs, last year of the contract, and almost the loan club (as anyone else) will have as much right to sign him up next year.
Guess we could add Terry Dunfield to this list, though I really do believe he'd be the perfect player needed for our midfield.
Sherriff for me is a stand out all season, and he may be the one to last the longest. I can't understand why he was dropped in the first place.
its this last point that does spring some doubt into GT man management, is he too quick to try someone new out? , were some of Simpson's signing actually good enough anyway? and just not motivated correctly,
I do believe that the vast majority were, and it concerns me that this could be a weakness in our armour.
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Post by stockportershrew on Feb 2, 2011 23:43:30 GMT 1
Will BvdB see out the rest of his contract? Can't see many opportunities for him and doesn't look like he has impressed Turner much. I think Leslie, McIntyre, Disley will go this summer. If Ainsworth doesn't knuckle down soon then I wonder if Turner will sacrifice him in the summer.
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Post by ssshrew on Feb 3, 2011 10:58:32 GMT 1
I don't think GT will lose Elder until he has given him a good chance and had a good look at him first.
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Post by nicko on Feb 3, 2011 12:49:53 GMT 1
I think Sharps has been our best defender all season, why would he go? Just a hunch - Grandison wasn't brought in to be right back and though club captain if the rumours have an ounce of credibilty then Sharps would be the player to make way. Sherrif has been our best defender for me this season followed by Sadler - I've seen sea going supertankers turn quicker than Sharps, good yes but cumbersome at times. I like him but as to whether he's good enough to stay remains to be seen. I'd go along with this. Sharpes has been a major disappointment for me this season; not the leader I thought he'd be. Maybe he hasn't settled. I think SCS has had a good season quietly going about his business and I'd like to see him stay for another year.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2011 21:53:47 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2011 0:53:25 GMT 1
SCS is a big exception to the Simpson signings, I actually think he's leading the slower and less skillful Sharps at the moment, Yet Sherriff was dropped at the start of the season, for O'Donnell, who wasn't bad but isn't the same class as SCS, Why? - as a kick up the a*&e perhaps?
Did little Jon Taylor prove a point on tuesday night? - that you can work with what you've got at a club? - Turner didn't seem to have faith in what Simpson developed in the ways of the youth setup,
its interesting with both Robinson and Holden also going, could the same have been said for them, and also others like VBD, the Neals, Bright and Elder.
Robinson is an odd case in that it looked as though GT has worked hard on him in the summer, but has given up on him the same time of the season as Simpson did, I don't think we'll see Jake back in a town shirt personally either. He can be quite lazy but so can other GT signings like Ainsworth
Holden, was on a hiding to nothing, Raven was brought in and preferred straight away (yet Holden was club captain at the end of the season), he came back from Rotherham and was almost god like to begin with and I think he proved a point coming back and still could at Chesterfield
the one guy I really don't think has been/or will given a chance is Van Den Broek, clearly technically one of the best at the club, you'd think that with Robinson gone there could be an opportunity for him, but with Collins signed it also looks unlikely. I think this guy has massive potential,
interestingly I love to see the stats for games, goals and assists between Lewis Neal and Lionel Ainsworth, if anyone could dig them out.
I'm certainly not defending Simpson's signings. But i think Simpson actually signed good players but couldn't connect/motivate them, and I thought GT could/would.
It does worry me that we have a completely new squad yet again, I just if we don't go up this season, we don't have the excuse of Turner had to get his own squad in first.
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Post by starlight on Feb 4, 2011 11:54:22 GMT 1
Will BvdB see out the rest of his contract? Can't see many opportunities for him and doesn't look like he has impressed Turner much. I think Leslie, McIntyre, Disley will go this summer. If Ainsworth doesn't knuckle down soon then I wonder if Turner will sacrifice him in the summer.[/quote Yeah would agree with that. Although Ainsworth wasn't a Simpson signing he hasn't impressed me, neither has Mc.Allister. Like any Manager some signings just don't come off.
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Post by mrbunny on Feb 4, 2011 13:22:32 GMT 1
Take back what i said about him then, only said it as i thought he had got a 1 year deal. Don't believe all you read in the papers then.
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Post by ssshrew on Feb 4, 2011 15:54:20 GMT 1
That is really good news - I thought it was only one year too. SCS does seem to be a steady, reliable ship at the moment and I would have thought can only get better. The exception that proves the rule with Simmos signings!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2011 16:58:08 GMT 1
The team only left for Southend a couple of hours ago from what I can tell....!
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Post by Amsterdammer on Feb 4, 2011 17:13:34 GMT 1
They were in Starbucks after 1, jut checked my Sainsburies reciept! Wearing casual clothing, didn't look like they were heading away with the team. So am I right in thinking the players are obliged to go to the ground with their kit, then get told whether they are on the trip ala x-factor and then when they are not they get changed and hit starbucks on mass. Or maybe the coach left at 2, they travel in casual clothes and decided to pick up a drink and some food for the journey?
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