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Post by blum on Jan 28, 2011 22:28:38 GMT 1
Title says it all. Oh forgot this one diabolical.
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Post by hooverfoxhat on Jan 28, 2011 22:41:28 GMT 1
If the manager wasn't Graham Turner it would be interesting what comments would be aimed at the manager - that was truly shocking as it has been for several weeks now.
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Post by theyesman on Jan 28, 2011 22:41:28 GMT 1
Pathetic! Stop chopping and changing GT!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2011 22:43:11 GMT 1
With all the money we put in wages wise, why can no manager come here and achieve success? Is it just bad coincidence or is there more going on?
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Jan 28, 2011 22:44:51 GMT 1
Honestly... much more of this and GT wil lose a lot of the good will... more so from us who never saw the good times first time around.....
Tough times
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Post by Stewie Shrew on Jan 28, 2011 22:45:38 GMT 1
With all the money we put in wages wise, why can no manager come here and achieve success? Is it just bad coincidence or is there more going on? He like most of us must of expecting more from the likes of Ainsworth, what a waste of space he looks
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Post by jamo on Jan 28, 2011 22:46:11 GMT 1
We are a team going backwards.
Our play between defence, midfield and attack is disjointed and lacking in control and guile.
Our midfield is non existant.
Turner has some work on his hands.
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Post by shrewd67 on Jan 28, 2011 22:46:41 GMT 1
Complete and utter s**te. Midfield non-existent, no threat and not much fight.
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Post by hooverfoxhat on Jan 28, 2011 22:47:25 GMT 1
He like most of us must of expecting more from the likes of Ainsworth, what a waste of space he looks Probably polishing the BMW up for a night out in Manchester
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2011 22:47:32 GMT 1
But we keep getting players sign for us who then don't deliver... is it bad management or something in the water at GM?!
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Post by shrewinjapan on Jan 28, 2011 22:50:42 GMT 1
I guessed from match reports and comments on here that our league position flatters us, but actually seeing it for myself I see just how much. That was a bottom-half side if you ask me. Harrold's performance was streets ahead of the rest of the team when he came on. How is he not first name on the team sheet every week? Unless we sign a couple on Monday we have no chance of the play-offs.
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Post by lionshrew on Jan 28, 2011 22:54:26 GMT 1
Absolutley rubbish tonight.
Defence were half asleep at time.
There was no support when we needed it.
Attack was not hitting the target offen enough.
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Post by Slackbladder on Jan 28, 2011 22:54:36 GMT 1
That performance was a lot better than Tuesday night - so we're on the up!!!
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jan 28, 2011 23:08:03 GMT 1
That was just awful terrible. Not as if Bury were a decent side either. I pity the season ticket holders who have to watch that week in, week out. Just can't believe how poor that was...
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Post by horse01 on Jan 28, 2011 23:14:22 GMT 1
I can't argue with the title of the thread to be honest!!
We are lucky we picked up so many points early on, and that this is not a strong league, otherwise we would be struggling at the wrong end of the table.
We can't defend properly at the moment, yet have a pretty settled back four. The strikers change on a game by game basis, and although Collins and Bradshaw look promising, they have yet to produce. For me, Harrold should be the first name on the team sheet after Wright and Sharps. He may not score bags of goals, but he has showed in 45 minutes tonight, more menace than most have in the last few weeks.
Then we have the midfield... or do we?? Because to be honest, i haven't seen a decent midfield for months. We were outplayed, out-muscled, out-thought and out-run. Even when we do get the ball, it's sideways passing. Noone to play a penetrating ball through or make a penetrating run through. Disley- non existent, McIntyre- a tryer but lacks the quality, Ainsworth- waste of time, space and money, Mcallister- a big let down, Wright- seems to be struggling with most of the expectation now placed at his feet, need i go on??
These targets that Mr Turner is trying to get in, need to be very special players, because at the moment, i don't think any player that may have seen that perfomance tonight will want to join us in a hurry?!
Deja vu from the last couple of seasons seems to be setting in!!
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Post by albionshrew on Jan 28, 2011 23:27:58 GMT 1
No match for me and I enjoyed my evening out. Lovely meal with a couple of glasses of wine. No washing up either. Roll on next season...
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Post by shrewsace on Jan 28, 2011 23:35:06 GMT 1
Inept. We looked like a Conference side first half and, although the introduction of Harrold led to some improvement in the second half, we remained poor and it became almost too painful to watch towards the end.
Not really sure where we go from here, but don't want us to start playing 'hoofball'. Thought Disley was the pick of our midfielders against Chesterfield, but was poor tonight (hardly on his own, I know), but think perhaps a central paring of him and McAllister, with Wright and A N Other would perhaps be our best bet.
Ainsworth, although hardly spolilt for service, was again a big disappointment. How much longer do we persevere with him in the hope he finds his form?
Oh, and why do players, managers and even grounds change, but we remain an average to poor basement side?
Why do so many players struggle here, yet thrive elsewhere?
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Post by blue4u on Jan 28, 2011 23:41:54 GMT 1
I have been to the game tonight with my mate who does a bit for the Villa he asked me with Holden and Sadler out of form how come Danny Taylor doesn't get a chance.His actual statement was from what he has seen in the reserves Danny is head and shoulders above those pair.G.T. has made poor signings and some of them are as bad as Simpson made,remember the posts on here Mc Allister is too good for LGE 2 now he doesn't even figure. Sharpes tonight was poor again. Fortune favours the brave come on Graham play Goldson and Taylor in the back four at least they would show commitment and guts something sadly lacking at present. At least Simpson had the guts to play his youngsters where ever they played not just forwards and midfielders.Lets try a young side they couldn't do any worse.The other thing is at least they would be proud to play for the badge on the front and not the name on the back
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Post by texmexshrew on Jan 28, 2011 23:42:48 GMT 1
Short term - this transfer window - we need 2 or 3 ideally. Long term, not just on tonights showings, I add the following: 2 first choice centre halves. Right back, Left back. 3 central midfielders. And a change in attitude with the coaching set up. Yes GT wants to play football as he said postmatch. When his team of 2010/2011 has been prevented from playing - space & time closed down by 5 man opposition midfields - there is NOTHING to change the play from the bench. No players of consequence that can battle us back into a game, no alternative to the passing game. Its probably been 2, maybe 3 months since we've passed it effeciently, plenty of time to work something out.
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Post by horse01 on Jan 28, 2011 23:43:20 GMT 1
Oh yeah....
.... sorry, i genuinely forgot to mention Steven Leslie. He was that bad tonight that i honestly could not remember that he was our other midfielder at the start!!
A lot of people seem to have cut him some slack over the years because he is a so called 'local lad' come good (even though he is from Glasgow), including me to some extent. But i'm afraid for me, he has had more than enough chances to prove himself under a number of different mangers, yet fails to have any degree of cosistency whatsoever. We have all seen flashes of brilliance from time to time, but imo, his flashes of frustration far outweigh those!!
As mentioned in my previous post, there are many players that are failing to deliver, so don't take this as a vendetta against Leslie.
If Mr Turner is looking for suggestions of players to get in, he could do alot worse than Schumacher of Bury and imo someone like Josh Low of Cheltenham.
Whoever it is, he needs them yesterday!!
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Post by mrbunny on Jan 28, 2011 23:45:26 GMT 1
When we played Rotherham on the box last year i had a sickness bug so missed most of the game being ill. I wish i'd had it tonight.
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Post by theriverside on Jan 29, 2011 0:01:16 GMT 1
Woeful..............I switched over to the snooker for most of the second half. Midfield was just non existent first half with all 5 across the park showing nothing whatsoever, we need to get a big athletic unit to boss the central midfield and provide the link to wingers and strikers. I was contemplating bringing my little lad to a home game soon now he's nearly 5 and he keeps asking to go but I don't fancy facing a charge of child cruelty
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2011 0:20:34 GMT 1
Title says it all. Oh forgot this one diabolical. Can't argue with that. Started badly with the sight of Simpson as pundit, and he could,nt resist getting in the point that we are in exactly the same position as last season regarding games played and points achieved. As far as the game was concerned, well, i think previous posters have said it all. Hoofball from the back, even when we had time to compose and pick out a pass. Midfield non existant, with McKintyre doing his running around like a headless chicken impression yet again. Ainsworth invisible, but the service to both him and Wright was poor. Why play away from home in a game that , if we won, would put us 3rd, with one up front. Their central defenders had no pressure on them, and had time to pick out a pass whenever. Eventually Harrold came on and we looked far better. Young Taylor should have been kept on the bench, a hard game to expect him to shine, so why risk him. His contribution was nil, looked to me that Turner was clutching at straws. We are what we are, a midtable side in a poor league. We need a dramatic overhaul and soon. And please, i don't want to read another load of s**te from a first team player on the back of the Star. " we let the fans down, we can do better, we are looking forward to the next game so we can make amends" etc etc. We are s**te.
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Post by WindsorShrew on Jan 29, 2011 0:28:06 GMT 1
With regard to Taylor maybe Mr Turner was playing to the cameras....
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Post by proudsalop13 on Jan 29, 2011 10:31:15 GMT 1
I have seriously got to question the knowledge of people posting on b&a these days , I was at the gigg lane night mare last night and feel so sorry for the whole of the bench to have to sit and watch your fellow team mates embarrass them selves , the back four were all over the place midfield had no bite and front two had no service , we made two inspired substitutions at half time , Harold who will grind any defe nce down and once finds his scoreing boots will re- establish himself as our frontman , the other being relatiely inexperienced wide man Taylor , he showed more passion commitment and desire for the town than anyone else in a red shirt it was unfair to criticise him when coming into a game of such a low standard one to watch and bring through the ranks and I wouldn't like to defend against him nothing worse than lightning pace
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Post by nicko on Jan 29, 2011 10:40:46 GMT 1
the other being relatiely inexperienced wide man Taylor , he showed more passion commitment and desire for the town than anyone else in a red shirt it was unfair to criticise him when coming into a game of such a low standard one to watch and bring through the ranks and I wouldn't like to defend against him nothing worse than lightning pace Yes and it was nice to see. However when given the opportunity to use that pace he run out of space, into defenders and left the ball behind. He didn't get past his man once. It's not his all his fault, but he had a couple of chances to show what he can do and he didn't.
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Post by dawleyshrew59 on Jan 29, 2011 10:49:13 GMT 1
SORT IT TURNER !! Im a big GT fan,but that was disgusting last night,played like strangers,my 10 year lad could play and put in more effort than what Anisworth and Leslie did and he dos'nt like football [disgusting I know blame his mother ] we need a leader on the pitch a right hard barsteward no nonsense type,and can play a bit any ideas ?
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Post by Beefy on Jan 29, 2011 10:55:19 GMT 1
When Ainsworth had the ball he looked quality, shame he didn't get the service. We need to perservere with him, keep playing him and he will come good. He is potentially the one who will get us promotion.
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Post by islaymalt on Jan 29, 2011 11:00:42 GMT 1
Having a lot of time for you guys and (usually) trying to be supportive, I really don't know what to say.
I can't find anything at all to be positive about. One mediocre team and one that was truly awful. Not a good way to spend a Friday evening. My wife watched it too and I'm sure she thinks I'm 'barking'.
I went to Stockport and came back singing your praises. She looked at me last night as though I was some kind of nutter.
What happened to McAlster? He was supreme in that game.
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Post by Dale on Jan 29, 2011 11:14:22 GMT 1
Honestly... much more of this and GT wil lose a lot of the good will... more so from us who never saw the good times first time around..... Tough times And this was why it was always risky for him to return here, by coming back here he is putting his 'legendary' status at the club at risk, in my eyes though my opinions havent changed of him and he should be always be applauded for what he has achieved here regardless of what happens in his current spell. Going back to the game, basically a continuation of the shambles at Oxford, Don Goodman said it all when he said he could only see us scoring by a set piece as we sure as hell didnt look like doing much from open play, why have we gone so direct and ugly all of a sudden when we were passing around teams for fun in the first couple of months of the season? We cant entirely blame it on the state of the pitches surely? Worrying times, January was seen as a 'make or break' month for us with the amount of games and with four defeats, three draws and only one win it seems like it has broken us, Burton will come here next Tuesday and try to kick us off the park like they did at their ground and I'm not sure if they can rise above it, I hope they prove me wrong but I'm not expecting it.
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