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Post by Jonah on Jan 22, 2011 22:27:18 GMT 1
I known he is only 19 but........
IMO his introduction to the team has come to early. The effort may be there but nothing more. He is to lightweight and to date doesn't know were the net is.
He doesn't trouble the Oppositions CH who barely break sweat against him.
Today was crying out for someone like MH to give their back line some sort of contest.
A 19 and 20 year old are finding it hard. Get some experience in there GT.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2011 22:33:55 GMT 1
You are joking aren't you. Werent you the guy who famously said Kelvin Langmead is no centre half
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Jan 22, 2011 22:36:18 GMT 1
Disagree 100%
He offers a threat every game and the defenders aren't given a minutes peace.
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Post by ferkle94 on Jan 22, 2011 22:39:38 GMT 1
Disagree, he has done well... and he is 18...
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Post by Jonah on Jan 22, 2011 22:40:52 GMT 1
You are joking aren't you. Werent you yhe guy who famously said Kelvin Langmead is no centre half No very serious. I honestly have not been taken in by the TB hype. Like I say he is only 19 but still has a lot to learn.
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Post by theyesman on Jan 22, 2011 22:41:56 GMT 1
I think he's getting better with each game, him and Collins are starting to show signs of a partnership. However, I do think that Collins would work better with Harrold. Too strong centre forwards would have really given Chesterfield's centre backs a headache today. I think you're right about Bradshaw having plenty of chances and not taking any, however he did show pretty good strength for someone of his size to create a shot in the second half. I don't think he's a consistent enough finisher yet and lacks the know how in front of goal. Chesterfield have the best man in the league as far as know how in the box goes. You could see straight away today when Lester got the ball to his feet in the box he only needed a couple of seconds to create their best chance.
I would like to see Harrold come in on Tuesday to play upfront with Collins. Could definitely see more goals from those two. Bradshaw's definitely got something there but at the moment hes not the answer YET.
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Post by Shrewed on Jan 22, 2011 22:42:08 GMT 1
For the last remaining member of the PSSC you are living in a dream land a 19 and 20 year today old showed more effort and skill than any pairing in the last 3 seasons. Yes the team needs a new player but that is in centre midfield hopefully to replace another of PS awful signings who the club have had to pay off.
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Post by Jonah on Jan 22, 2011 22:42:26 GMT 1
You are joking aren't you. Werent you yhe guy who famously said Kelvin Langmead is no centre half Well I wasn't wrong was I Paul?
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Post by bordersalopian on Jan 22, 2011 22:43:52 GMT 1
I known he is only 19 but........ IMO his introduction to the team has come to early. The effort may be there but nothing more. He is to lightweight and to date doesn't know were the net is. He doesn't trouble the Oppositions CH who barely break sweat against him. Today was crying out for someone like MH to give their back line some sort of contest. A 19 and 20 year old are finding it hard. Get some experience in there GT. Jog on fella - Bradshaw has exerted more effort in the last three games than Robinson has in the last two seasons! Yes, Tom's only 18 and still learning his trade, but he's the future of this club - AND he's been called up into the Wales U21 Squad. Mr Turner is far more qualified than either you or I to select the team every weekend, so stop the criticism and get of Bradshaw's back!
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Post by bertymax on Jan 22, 2011 22:47:11 GMT 1
WTF, Too lightweight? If this was Liverpool 15 years ago you'd probably be sayin the same about Michael Owen. The guy is a savvy and he'll be banging em in before long!
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Post by heavenlyshrew on Jan 22, 2011 22:48:17 GMT 1
I agree with Jonah a bit on this one,i think TB is a 60-70 min player at the moment. GT should of give him a few more outings from the bench before throwing him into the deep end.
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Post by Jonah on Jan 22, 2011 22:48:23 GMT 1
For the last remaining member of the PSSC you are living in a dream land a 19 and 20 year today old showed more effort and skill than any pairing in the last 3 seasons. Yes the team needs a new player but that is in centre midfield hopefully to replace another of PS awful signings who the club have had to pay off. Ed You have already forgotten the H and R partnership then? Do you really think the two today will yield as many goals ? Who says we need a new player? Disley is fit again
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2011 22:52:40 GMT 1
You are joking aren't you. Werent you yhe guy who famously said Kelvin Langmead is no centre half Well I wasn't wrong was I Paul? No we sold him as a striker
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2011 22:53:42 GMT 1
More bad news Jonah he's only 18
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Post by Jonah on Jan 22, 2011 22:53:58 GMT 1
WTF, Too lightweight? If this was Liverpool 15 years ago you'd probably be sayin the same about Michael Owen. The guy is a savvy and he'll be banging em in before long! No I wouldn't because MO knew were the net was Seriously I do hope he starts banging them in but I just can't see it at the moment. Hope he proves me wrong at Oxford if he plays.
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Jan 22, 2011 22:55:16 GMT 1
he offers 10 times more than Jake Robinson at the moment, and as thats his main competition for his place that will be enough
add to that raw talent the likes of which we have not brough through for a lone time in a striker, and hes 100% worthy of starting at the moment... he as something most defenders fear... the element of serprise, Robo, and Harrold are good players but having done the rounds at this levle defenders know what there going to get, with Bradders, at the moment he gets a lot of joy as defenders dont know what hes going to do next...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2011 22:58:04 GMT 1
he offers 10 times more than Jake Robinson at the moment, and as thats his main competition for his place that will be enough add to that raw talent the likes of which we have not brough through for a lone time in a striker, and hes 100% worthy of starting at the moment... he as something most defenders fear... the element of serprise, Robo, and Harrold are good players but having done the rounds at this levle defenders know what there going to get, with Bradders, at the moment he gets a lot of joy as defenders dont know what hes going to do next... I was worried for a moment you were going to say he is like a young Duane Darby
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Post by Shrewed on Jan 22, 2011 22:59:41 GMT 1
Yes I believe that B and C will score more than 15 goals when they have played 40 odd games between them this season. Really surprising that your only supporter is heavenly.
Most fans recognise that we need to strengthen midfield.
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Post by jaytee on Jan 22, 2011 23:03:12 GMT 1
More bad news Jonah he's only 18 Yep, I was going to point that out. Having said that, I would have thought, 2 games a week is a bit much for young Tom. He's a great prospect, no doubt, but it's a big ask at the moment. www.soccerbase.com/players_details.sd?playerid=51785
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Post by heavenlyshrew on Jan 22, 2011 23:03:47 GMT 1
Yes I believe that B and C will score more than 15 goals when they have played 40 odd games between them this season. Really surprising that your only supporter is heavenly. Most fans recognise that we need to strengthen midfield. Well Ed Harrold and Robinson have only played 17 games together and a return of 15 goals is a decent.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2011 23:07:06 GMT 1
More bad news Jonah he's only 18 Yep, I was going to point that out. Having said that, I would have thought, 2 games a week is a bit much for young Tom. He's a great prospect, no doubt, but it's a big ask at the moment. www.soccerbase.com/players_details.sd?playerid=51785This may become an issue in the next week or so but the way he was still closing down defenders late on today, I am not so sure
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Post by Shrewed on Jan 22, 2011 23:12:33 GMT 1
Martin harrold has scored 6. from 21 starts and 5 sub appearances and Robinson 9 from 23starts and 2 sub appearances if you think that is good so be it, I don't
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Post by Optimistic Shrew on Jan 22, 2011 23:15:20 GMT 1
I known he is only 19 but........ IMO his introduction to the team has come to early. The effort may be there but nothing more. He is to lightweight and to date doesn't know were the net is. He doesn't trouble the Oppositions CH who barely break sweat against him. Today was crying out for someone like MH to give their back line some sort of contest. A 19 and 20 year old are finding it hard. Get some experience in there GT. Nonsense. Tom Bradshaw has proved that if you're good enough you're old enough and has put in some great displays. 2 goals this season but has played very little until now. If one comes I sense a few more will be on the way.
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Post by heavenlyshrew on Jan 22, 2011 23:16:08 GMT 1
Martin harrold has scored 6. from 21 starts and 5 sub appearances and Robinson 9 from 23starts and 2 sub appearances if you think that is good so be it, I don't I would say that is decent for Hrrold as he is not a out and out striker. So you are now saying they have not played 4o games together
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2011 23:18:18 GMT 1
I only hope you're fishing for an argument here Jonah.
If not, you're losing your marbles.
Bradshaw is the best striking prospect since Rodgers no doubt. He has been exceptional on each occasion I've seen him.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2011 23:19:17 GMT 1
"to date doesn't know were the net is."
5 goals in 6 starts and 11 subs appearance.
Ahem.
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Post by shrewd67 on Jan 22, 2011 23:21:20 GMT 1
I known he is only 19 but........ IMO his introduction to the team has come to early. The effort may be there but nothing more. He is to lightweight and to date doesn't know were the net is. He doesn't trouble the Oppositions CH who barely break sweat against him. Today was crying out for someone like MH to give their back line some sort of contest. A 19 and 20 year old are finding it hard. Get some experience in there GT. I agree. He's a great prospect quick on the turn with obvious ability but in some games he just looks too lightweight. The game today was crying out for Matt Harrold in the second half to hold the ball up and bring others in, not that we were playing badly but felt we should have been going for the win.
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Post by Shrewed on Jan 22, 2011 23:22:00 GMT 1
Oh Martin please!! Where did I suggest that Robinson and harrold had played 40 games together. A striker who fails to achieve more than 1 goal in 4 appearances is a risk to automatic promotion.
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Post by Jonah on Jan 22, 2011 23:23:06 GMT 1
I only hope you're fishing for an argument here Jonah. If not, you're losing your marbles. Bradshaw is the best striking prospect since Rodgers no doubt. He has been exceptional on each occasion I've seen him. Not fishing Gareth but you must be to say he is exceptional. I know he is Welsh but come on.......... I am not knocking the lad just pointing out his age and the fact That IMO he isn't ready.
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Post by jaytee on Jan 22, 2011 23:24:38 GMT 1
Actually, guys, doesn't it make a nice change to have a choice?
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