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Post by SouthStandShrew on Dec 8, 2010 13:11:59 GMT 1
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Post by SY3 on Dec 8, 2010 13:54:15 GMT 1
4 goals in 7 appearances for Town suggested to me that he may be a decent stiker at this level. Unfortunately the manager at the time thought differently.
Imagine the damage Constable and Harrold would do - certainly a handful to play against.
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Post by stfcfan87 on Dec 8, 2010 14:03:10 GMT 1
9 goals already
Who'd have thought eh paul. Oh yeah loads of us!
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Post by scooter on Dec 8, 2010 14:05:51 GMT 1
he was still only on the bench last saturday. although he came on and scored
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Post by hooverfoxhat on Dec 8, 2010 14:20:28 GMT 1
I'd hazard a calculated guess that there are problems away from the football pitch with James Constable - Despite bags of goals at Oxford in The Conference and 9 already this season he finds himself on the substitutes bench and the focus of a possible move away to ......Luton Town, a Conference club.
If he's so talented and prolific why is he still plying his trade at a mid table club and not somewhere 'bigger'? Every club in the country wants a proven goalscorer and Constable is definitely that but still he remains at Oxford with the only declared interest from a club a league lower - something it would seem is amiss.
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Post by watfordshrew on Dec 8, 2010 14:22:58 GMT 1
...............and the word on the street in Oxford is that he is high maintenance, was given the captaincy to give him responsibility to see if he would grow up and that this talk from the manager is designed to raise his value for sale in January.
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Post by simianus on Dec 8, 2010 15:22:08 GMT 1
how dim are people? do we have to trawl this rubbish every time oxford talk him up? was constable not the player that had to go for us to afford holt to come in? nobody wanted any of the other strikers so he had to go. please correct me if i am wrong. i think some should let go of the bitterness of the past, this almost hysterical reaction every time there is anything about simpson or a player he used here in the news, is unbecoming and a bit classless i think. i can understand the vitriol to Ratcliffe, he us down, but under simpson we had decent enough finishes. obviously not brilliant , bt i think some of you should get over being called diabolical on the actual story, constable being talked up , just before the transfer window after being on the bench , makes me think they want rid
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Post by jaytee on Dec 8, 2010 15:28:12 GMT 1
how dim are people? i think some of you should get over being called diabolical That's a diabolical thing to say.
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Post by Shrewed on Dec 8, 2010 15:49:39 GMT 1
how dim are people? do we have to trawl this rubbish every time oxford talk him up? was constable not the player that had to go for us to afford holt to come in? nobody wanted any of the other strikers so he had to go. please correct me if i am wrong. i think some should let go of the bitterness of the past, this almost hysterical reaction every time there is anything about simpson or a player he used here in the news, is unbecoming and a bit classless i think. i can understand the vitriol to Ratcliffe, he us down, but under simpson we had decent enough finishes. obviously not brilliant , bt i think some of you should get over being called diabolical on the actual story, constable being talked up , just before the transfer window after being on the bench , makes me think they want rid I'm classless and maybe a little dim but wasn't Constable got rid of to allow Walker to join the club a player who hadn't scored a goal from open play for 15 months. It has been obvious that you admiration for Simpson is hardly less than that of Jonah and Heavenly. If you consider the performances under Simpson to be decent when you consider the finances he had available, then I guess your standards are a lot lower than many fans. I don't go along with the view that Constable shouldn't have gone to Oxford but I do feel that a season long loan was wrong and the fact that he was completely ignored once he went does not say much for the manager. Look at the other strikers Simpson signed, Ashikodi, Elder, Bright and Chadwick. Unfortunately Constable was only one of the many mistakes that were made by the previous manager who in my opinion was one of the worst Town managers in the last 50 odd years.
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Post by simianus on Dec 8, 2010 16:18:19 GMT 1
how dim are people? do we have to trawl this rubbish every time oxford talk him up? was constable not the player that had to go for us to afford holt to come in? nobody wanted any of the other strikers so he had to go. please correct me if i am wrong. i think some should let go of the bitterness of the past, this almost hysterical reaction every time there is anything about simpson or a player he used here in the news, is unbecoming and a bit classless i think. i can understand the vitriol to Ratcliffe, he us down, but under simpson we had decent enough finishes. obviously not brilliant , bt i think some of you should get over being called diabolical on the actual story, constable being talked up , just before the transfer window after being on the bench , makes me think they want rid I'm classless and maybe a little dim but wasn't Constable got rid of to allow Walker to join the club a player who hadn't scored a goal from open play for 15 months. It has been obvious that you admiration for Simpson is hardly less than that of Jonah and Heavenly. If you consider the performances under Simpson to be decent when you consider the finances he had available, then I guess your standards are a lot lower than many fans. I don't go along with the view that Constable shouldn't have gone to Oxford but I do feel that a season long loan was wrong and the fact that he was completely ignored once he went does not say much for the manager. Look at the other strikers Simpson signed, Ashikodi, Elder, Bright and Chadwick. Unfortunately Constable was only one of the many mistakes that were made by the previous manager who in my opinion was one of the worst Town managers in the last 50 odd years. none so blind as those who will not see thats about it for me, not sure its worth discussing it with you as you have done the usual and twisted what i have said, made no mention of performances, league positions were decent enough is what i said. but as usual you miss the point. yo dont like simpson, he upset you you think he is a terrible manager. I Get Ityou have mentioned it over 750,000 times just dont see the point in people harping on about it. its gone, calm down, deep breaths. the nasty man has gone and you can sleep soundly
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2010 16:47:44 GMT 1
If he was high maintanence then no doubt he was out of the door by Simmo
Does anyone know what we got in terms of money for him?
I still don't think he was the worst example of getting rid of a player (in Simmo's tenure) - that was definately Marc Pugh, what do you say?
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Post by Shrewed on Dec 8, 2010 16:51:11 GMT 1
It seems to me that nobody had mentioned Simpson until you decided to defend the undefensible. Was our league positions that decent when considered along side the amount of money spent. I don't think so.
By the way I have no feelings for Mr Simpson like or hate, the only way he upset me was by managing a team that played worse football that that during the Ratters era.
Maybe you are too young to understand yet but supporting a football club is all about memories some good some bad. You only need to watch the board to see the best of ..... or the worst of ........
It is time you accepted other peoples opinion without resorting to terms like dim and classless, I wonder where you learnt that tactic.
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Post by simianus on Dec 8, 2010 17:16:43 GMT 1
It seems to me that nobody had mentioned Simpson until you decided to defend the undefensible. Was our league positions that decent when considered along side the amount of money spent. I don't think so. By the way I have no feelings for Mr Simpson like or hate, the only way he upset me was by managing a team that played worse football that that during the Ratters era. Maybe you are too young to understand yet but supporting a football club is all about memories some good some bad. You only need to watch the board to see the best of ..... or the worst of ........ It is time you accepted other peoples opinion without resorting to terms like dim and classless, I wonder where you learnt that tactic. i would suggest you are a bit of a drama queen, look at the terms you use" defending the indefensible" , we aren't talking about a pedophile here, its a bloke who failed to live up to expectations by a short way. you misinterpret pretty much everything that is put to you, use that very patronizing "maybe you dont understand" rubbish. you never bring anything positive to the board, always whinging about the goverment or the football team. all in all a p**s poor poster imo and if you dont like the terms i use, take the advice ant gave me when i objected to a term , grow a pair
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Post by simianus on Dec 8, 2010 17:17:54 GMT 1
It seems to me that nobody had mentioned Simpson until you decided to defend the undefensible. Was our league positions that decent when considered along side the amount of money spent. I don't think so. By the way I have no feelings for Mr Simpson like or hate, the only way he upset me was by managing a team that played worse football that that during the Ratters era. Maybe you are too young to understand yet but supporting a football club is all about memories some good some bad. You only need to watch the board to see the best of ..... or the worst of ........ It is time you accepted other peoples opinion without resorting to terms like dim and classless, I wonder where you learnt that tactic. and if you think this thread has nothing to do with Paul Simpson, add stupid and naive to the list of your attributes
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Post by SY3 on Dec 8, 2010 17:36:50 GMT 1
I think you're all be being really harsh on Simmo here and it's just not on. Ok, apart from his poor comments towards the fans, player recruitment, player judgement, tactics and his blame everyone else culture - he is an excellent manager.
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Post by Shrewed on Dec 8, 2010 17:37:27 GMT 1
It seems to me that nobody had mentioned Simpson until you decided to defend the undefensible. Was our league positions that decent when considered along side the amount of money spent. I don't think so. By the way I have no feelings for Mr Simpson like or hate, the only way he upset me was by managing a team that played worse football that that during the Ratters era. Maybe you are too young to understand yet but supporting a football club is all about memories some good some bad. You only need to watch the board to see the best of ..... or the worst of ........ It is time you accepted other peoples opinion without resorting to terms like dim and classless, I wonder where you learnt that tactic. i would suggest you are a bit of a drama queen, look at the terms you use" defending the indefensible" , we aren't talking about a pedophile here, its a bloke who failed to live up to expectations by a short way. you misinterpret pretty much everything that is put to you, use that very patronizing "maybe you dont understand" rubbish. you never bring anything positive to the board, always whinging about the goverment or the football team. all in all a p**s poor poster imo and if you dont like the terms i use, take the advice ant gave me when i objected to a term , grow a pair You are hardly the one to claim someone is a p**s poor poster when you reach the heights with: "quite proud tbh, just woke the family up to watch this pivotal moment in my life. i stand here at the pinnacle of my b&a career with the gaping abyss of another 206 posts ahead of me, welling up now so will have to go " Maybe you are Nick Clegg in disguise, promise one thing and do the opposite. Quite happy to discuss football or politics with anyone who has a serious view on the topic which unfortunately you regularly fail to demonstrate. By the way I went out to vote on May 6th I reckon that earns the right to complain. Did You?
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Post by stfcfan87 on Dec 8, 2010 17:43:46 GMT 1
Thing I don't understand is why you seem to have fully supported getting rid of Constable throughout, given that he had only 6 months at maximum to prove himself in a struggling team, but have said in the Bright thread that he was unlucky despite having 3 times as long to prove himself in a playoff chasing team. Yet Constable managed to score more than Bright.
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Post by simianus on Dec 8, 2010 18:51:32 GMT 1
i would suggest you are a bit of a drama queen, look at the terms you use" defending the indefensible" , we aren't talking about a pedophile here, its a bloke who failed to live up to expectations by a short way. you misinterpret pretty much everything that is put to you, use that very patronizing "maybe you dont understand" rubbish. you never bring anything positive to the board, always whinging about the goverment or the football team. all in all a p**s poor poster imo and if you dont like the terms i use, take the advice ant gave me when i objected to a term , grow a pair You are hardly the one to claim someone is a p**s poor poster when you reach the heights with: "quite proud tbh, just woke the family up to watch this pivotal moment in my life. i stand here at the pinnacle of my b&a career with the gaping abyss of another 206 posts ahead of me, welling up now so will have to go " Maybe you are Nick Clegg in disguise, promise one thing and do the opposite. Quite happy to discuss football or politics with anyone who has a serious view on the topic which unfortunately you regularly fail to demonstrate. By the way I went out to vote on May 6th I reckon that earns the right to complain. Did You? and it all comes to the surface, been saving that up? even went to the trouble of misquoting a joke thread, i should be flattered but you make me feel a little creeped out tbh. voting doesn't give you more right than anyone who didnt, it is a preposterous suggestion. voting has no impact on my freedom of speech if you're daft enough to vote in this sham of a system, i think you have less right to complain if anything. i am in no way culpable for what the government does, you on the other hand , failed to do enough to get your favorite center party into power, so deserve the consequences more. unlike you, i have actually thought about my personal politics, not just aped what the labour chap told you. i dont believe our system works, it allows the wrong people into power, has done for decades. Why should i take part in a system i dont believe works?
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Post by simianus on Dec 8, 2010 18:56:18 GMT 1
I think you're all be being really harsh on Simmo here and it's just not on. Ok, apart from his poor comments towards the fans, player recruitment, player judgement, tactics and his blame everyone else culture - he is an excellent manager. another missed point, you two should move in together, you could save boring the rest and chat amongst yourselves, maybe even get a simmo doll to stick pins in, really crank up that utterly pointless obsession. change the record, its boring now, he's been gone months. i had no trouble letting go and i stuck with him longer than most, why cant you?
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Post by shrew4life on Dec 8, 2010 19:00:53 GMT 1
Hilarious Simianus calling someone else patronising.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2010 19:05:08 GMT 1
Jesus, not another "Paul Simpson made a mistake in lettting James Constable go" thread, surely that means a Marc Pugh one is due and then Jimmy Ryan after that.
Anyway as has been said a million times before, Paul Simpsons biggest mistake was not letting Constable go out on loan, it was not keeping on good terms with him and in regular contact which meant he felt neglected so was never going to come back to us.
Ed, just to point out that whilst Simpson did sign a player in who your words "hadn't scored a goal from open play for 15 months" it was well known that Mr Peters was after him for a long time and he was a player with a decent record who most people were happy with. It was a gamble which didnt pay off.
There is not a single manager out there who has made the right call everytime when it comes to signing players and then releasing players. We know that Paul Simpsons transfer dealings were mainly poor (to put it mildly) but Im not sure why the constant reminder as players we let go. Let it go and move on
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Post by simianus on Dec 8, 2010 19:14:33 GMT 1
Hilarious Simianus calling someone else patronising. you evidently don't know the difference between sarcasm and being patronising
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Dec 8, 2010 19:17:52 GMT 1
you evidently don't know the difference between sarcasm and being patronising That is really patronising. Were you being sarcastic?
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Dec 8, 2010 19:19:11 GMT 1
Thing I don't understand is why you seem to have fully supported getting rid of Constable throughout, given that he had only 6 months at maximum to prove himself in a struggling team, but have said in the Bright thread that he was unlucky despite having 3 times as long to prove himself in a playoff chasing team. Yet Constable managed to score more than Bright. How come this is the one post Simianus has not replied to?
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Post by simianus on Dec 8, 2010 19:26:15 GMT 1
Thing I don't understand is why you seem to have fully supported getting rid of Constable throughout, given that he had only 6 months at maximum to prove himself in a struggling team, but have said in the Bright thread that he was unlucky despite having 3 times as long to prove himself in a playoff chasing team. Yet Constable managed to score more than Bright. How come this is the one post Simianus has not replied to? didn't see it but thanks for stirring the pot different situations. i dont think that JC had a chance here either, but there was a rationale behind the loan move, which was to get in a more experienced player. with bright, he was unlucky for the reasons i listed on that thread
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Post by simianus on Dec 8, 2010 19:30:44 GMT 1
you evidently don't know the difference between sarcasm and being patronising That is really patronising. Were you being sarcastic? best answer this one too actually, i dont really have to explain it to a bright fellow such as yourself, do i?
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Post by simianus on Dec 8, 2010 19:33:14 GMT 1
Jesus, not another "Paul Simpson made a mistake in lettting James Constable go" thread, surely that means a Marc Pugh one is due and then Jimmy Ryan after that. Anyway as has been said a million times before, Paul Simpsons biggest mistake was not letting Constable go out on loan, it was not keeping on good terms with him and in regular contact which meant he felt neglected so was never going to come back to us. Ed, just to point out that whilst Simpson did sign a player in who your words "hadn't scored a goal from open play for 15 months" it was well known that Mr Peters was after him for a long time and he was a player with a decent record who most people were happy with. It was a gamble which didnt pay off. There is not a single manager out there who has made the right call everytime when it comes to signing players and then releasing players. We know that Paul Simpsons transfer dealings were mainly poor (to put it mildly) but Im not sure why the constant reminder as players we let go. Let it go and move on thankyou, glad i am not the only one. nobody is saying he was any good, just questioning the regular , anti simpson circle jerks. to err is human, to forgive divine
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Dec 8, 2010 19:33:22 GMT 1
but there was a rationale behind the loan move, which was to get in a more experienced player. Who didn't exactly set the world alight. I think what really irks people is that we didn't get Constable back, even after he had proved a much greater success than his experienced replacement. Mistakes can be made. Being too stubborn to admit it does not win you respect. didn't see it but thanks for stirring the pot Stirring the pot? You turned this discussion into a blender!
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Post by venceremos on Dec 8, 2010 19:42:55 GMT 1
Interesting that the Oxford chairman is trying to talk up the value of a player starting on their bench at the moment.
Interesting too, that it's non-league Luton mentioned as a possible destination for him.
None of that suggests to me that I should change my mind about Constable just yet. I wasn't impressed when he played for us and I'll be very surprised if he attracts "serious money" now.
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Post by simianus on Dec 8, 2010 19:42:58 GMT 1
but there was a rationale behind the loan move, which was to get in a more experienced player. Who didn't exactly set the world alight. I think what really irks people is that we didn't get Constable back, even after he had proved a much greater success than his experienced replacement. Mistakes can be made. Being too stubborn to admit it does not win you respect. didn't see it but thanks for stirring the pot Stirring the pot? You turned this discussion into a blender! but i haven't said mistakes weren't made, that would be a stupid thing to say. but people seem to assume that if you call for a little fairness, that i am saying he the best manager out there. yes, it does stir things up when you challenge things on here. i cant say i what i dont believe, just for the sake of harmony.
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