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Post by shrewforever on Dec 7, 2010 18:21:35 GMT 1
Good Luck,but good thing for all concerned........
Now if we can get Elder and Leslie off the payroll aswell that will help in no small way............
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Post by simianus on Dec 7, 2010 19:47:28 GMT 1
some pretty unfair comments on here and sad to see others using it as an excuse to have a go at other players.
Kris Bright was simply unlucky. unlucky to be considered one of holts replacements, unlucky to have signed at a point where the tide was starting to turn for simpson with many, unlucky to not have his paperwork through on the opening day of the season, unlucky to be used as a convenient scapegoat by paul simpson and transfer listed, unlucky to be injured at the wrong time, unlucky to finally show a little form just when the manager was going to be replaced.
as nicko said earlier, not as bad a player as many have tried to make out.
Good luck Kris, shame you never really got much of a chance here
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Dec 7, 2010 19:57:06 GMT 1
some pretty unfair comments on here and sad to see others using it as an excuse to have a go at other players. Kris Bright was simply unlucky. unlucky to be considered one of holts replacements, unlucky to have signed at a point where the tide was starting to turn for simpson with many, unlucky to not have his paperwork through on the opening day of the season, unlucky to be used as a convenient scapegoat by paul simpson and transfer listed, unlucky to be injured at the wrong time, unlucky to finally show a little form just when the manager was going to be replaced. as nicko said earlier, not as bad a player as many have tried to make out. Good luck Kris, shame you never really got much of a chance here I don't see much of that to be honest. Every striker we have is Holt's replacement. He signed when Simpson's star was at its highest, having just got us to the play off final didn't he? If he was good enough he would have got in the team. When we did see him he was nto good enough. And he appeared to be injury prone. Mind you, so is Disley. The difference is whenever Disley plays he makes a contribution, so people wait for him to get fit again, knowing we miss him. When were his good performances? Where was his run of form? On what are people basing the "He was a good player who never had a proper chance" line of thinking? I have barely seen it. A strange signing, and it is not the criticism of it which sounds a bit out of place, but the defence. That said, i am sure he is a lovely bloke and I hope he goes on and does well somewhere. The last 18 months have shown me it would have taken him 5 years to get into double figures for goals, so I am prepared to take the risk he may succeed somewhere else.
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Post by shrewsace on Dec 7, 2010 20:10:53 GMT 1
Tend to agree with TBH on this one.
Think we saw a flicker of potential towards the end of last season, but he was always struggling to make an impact.
I'd say the evidence he's a useful League Two player on an unlucky streak is fairly scant based on his appearances in a Town shirt.
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Post by simianus on Dec 7, 2010 20:16:15 GMT 1
some pretty unfair comments on here and sad to see others using it as an excuse to have a go at other players. Kris Bright was simply unlucky. unlucky to be considered one of holts replacements, unlucky to have signed at a point where the tide was starting to turn for simpson with many, unlucky to not have his paperwork through on the opening day of the season, unlucky to be used as a convenient scapegoat by paul simpson and transfer listed, unlucky to be injured at the wrong time, unlucky to finally show a little form just when the manager was going to be replaced. as nicko said earlier, not as bad a player as many have tried to make out. Good luck Kris, shame you never really got much of a chance here I don't see much of that to be honest. Every striker we have is Holt's replacement. He signed when Simpson's star was at its highest, having just got us to the play off final didn't he? If he was good enough he would have got in the team. When we did see him he was nto good enough. And he appeared to be injury prone. Mind you, so is Disley. The difference is whenever Disley plays he makes a contribution, so people wait for him to get fit again, knowing we miss him. When were his good performances? Where was his run of form? On what are people basing the "He was a good player who never had a proper chance" line of thinking? I have barely seen it. A strange signing, and it is not the criticism of it which sounds a bit out of place, but the defence. That said, i am sure he is a lovely bloke and I hope he goes on and does well somewhere. The last 18 months have shown me it would have taken him 5 years to get into double figures for goals, so I am prepared to take the risk he may succeed somewhere else. think we will have to agree to disagree then, simpson had just lost the play-off final, his best striker and best midfielder, people weren't that impressed with either him or elder before they had even kicked a ball as i remember, not all but enough for me to think that over 50% were not with him. he made improved performances toward the end of last season, just before the manager changed, thought i had mentioned that, i can remember thinking that he may be finally getting the hang of League two. someone else mentioned thinking the same thing, earlier in the thread. dont really see the disley comparison, different positions and one is an experienced player with a reputation at a higher level, the other a young lad trying to break into english football. just because a view is popular, doesn't mean it is right
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Post by bizzylad on Dec 7, 2010 20:55:13 GMT 1
Watch every game that Bright played for Salop and that includes reserve matches and in the majority of these he simply wasnt up to scratch,finishing was poor,looked lethargic at times and seemed to be on a different wavelength on otherss around him there was some decent spells but got to agree with GT in sayin hes not the calibre we need in promotion. Step up Elder and Bradders
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2010 21:06:27 GMT 1
Didn't quite work out for Brighty.
4 starts probably isn't enough to judge him totally by, but it's clear that he's a world away from the likes of Harrald and Robinson, and even the likes of VDB and Bradshaw probably bring more to the party than him.
I thought Brighty was starting to acclimatise towards the end of last year, his performance and goal at Port Vale were very good, but injuries this year mean that today's news is inevitable.
Good luck though Brighty, Stockport will be a good place for you to get some starts.
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Post by coobert on Dec 7, 2010 21:09:05 GMT 1
The only thing that Bright contributed was a yellow card every time he came on for his 10 mins runaround.Couldn't pass,couldn't control,good riddance!Thank you GT for doing the decent thing and getting shot of another of Simpson's great signings.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Dec 7, 2010 21:09:22 GMT 1
Good luck though Brighty, Stockport will be a good place for you to get some starts. It was a complete lie/joke by Robinson he put on twitter. Though reading between the lines it confirms what many might have thought, Robinson and Bright didn't have the best relationship with Simpson.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2010 21:36:13 GMT 1
Best of luck to the lad - has something about him as a footballer but not sure it's best suited to England and League Two - time will tell though!
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Post by onthetrain92 on Dec 7, 2010 22:46:00 GMT 1
Very mixed opinions on him from myself, don't think he really had enough game time and always injury prone. Simpson took a risk bringing him in and it back fired, 12 months previous he had a serious leg break and obvious he wasn't the same player kristensund had. he started the season well for the reserves and netted on several occasions and actually linked up well with VDB but then got injured again. Every time i saw him round town he was with Jake Robinson for some reason etc, always saw him shopping in Asda too on a Friday night. The guy obviously wants to make it, maybe needs that bit of luck at another club. Rory Fallon was the same and took ages to settle in English Football.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2010 23:28:39 GMT 1
Good Luck Kris, never really given a proper chance ,
Thought it was a bit harsh on the bbc Bright made 28 appearances scoring 2 goals - most of them were 10-15 minute cameo's trying to get to the game,
Last game of the season at home against Morecambe him, Bradshaw and VDB linked up well
I can see why people have compared Disley to Bright, in fact I'm starting to think is Disley really up to it also,
Funny how, Bright, Elder, Lewis Neal, Holden and Robinson were scapegoated and not Disley
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Post by roberto02afcct on Dec 7, 2010 23:59:18 GMT 1
I am sure Paul Simpson was straight on the blower to him or vis versa plus it means clear out to buy in someone, Wright maybe? ?? he has expressed his wish to stay here perminant so maybe this is the clear out some space on the wage bill for him to come in January on a LONG contract
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Post by griff6732 on Dec 8, 2010 0:59:25 GMT 1
He didnt make a massive impression, but i honestly feel if we tried him out this week he might have cropped up with a few goals. What makes you think that,and in place of who?
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Post by griff6732 on Dec 8, 2010 1:11:46 GMT 1
I don't see much of that to be honest. Every striker we have is Holt's replacement. He signed when Simpson's star was at its highest, having just got us to the play off final didn't he? If he was good enough he would have got in the team. When we did see him he was nto good enough. And he appeared to be injury prone. Mind you, so is Disley. The difference is whenever Disley plays he makes a contribution, so people wait for him to get fit again, knowing we miss him. When were his good performances? Where was his run of form? On what are people basing the "He was a good player who never had a proper chance" line of thinking? I have barely seen it. A strange signing, and it is not the criticism of it which sounds a bit out of place, but the defence. That said, i am sure he is a lovely bloke and I hope he goes on and does well somewhere. The last 18 months have shown me it would have taken him 5 years to get into double figures for goals, so I am prepared to take the risk he may succeed somewhere else. think we will have to agree to disagree then, simpson had just lost the play-off final, his best striker and best midfielder, people weren't that impressed with either him or elder before they had even kicked a ball as i remember, not all but enough for me to think that over 50% were not with him. he made improved performances toward the end of last season, just before the manager changed, thought i had mentioned that, i can remember thinking that he may be finally getting the hang of League two. someone else mentioned thinking the same thing, earlier in the thread. dont really see the disley comparison, different positions and one is an experienced player with a reputation at a higher level, the other a young lad trying to break into english football. just because a view is popular, doesn't mean it is right Hey Marcus he must have killed a flock of robins with all the bad luck you reckon he had,quite simply not good enough
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Post by camdenshrew on Dec 8, 2010 10:41:44 GMT 1
Perhaps the reason he wasn't given a chance was that he just wasn't up to it?
People have mentioned there were glimpses of something at the end of last season. Yes, but they came in games that didn't matter when the pressure was off.
Bright never showed enough in the games where he was given an opportunity - Aldershot away being a stand-out example - and he was far too injury-prone. Good luck to him but GT has made the right decision.
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Post by simianus on Dec 8, 2010 11:05:11 GMT 1
think we will have to agree to disagree then, simpson had just lost the play-off final, his best striker and best midfielder, people weren't that impressed with either him or elder before they had even kicked a ball as i remember, not all but enough for me to think that over 50% were not with him. he made improved performances toward the end of last season, just before the manager changed, thought i had mentioned that, i can remember thinking that he may be finally getting the hang of League two. someone else mentioned thinking the same thing, earlier in the thread. dont really see the disley comparison, different positions and one is an experienced player with a reputation at a higher level, the other a young lad trying to break into english football. just because a view is popular, doesn't mean it is right Hey Marcus he must have killed a flock of robins with all the bad luck you reckon he had,quite simply not good enough killed a flock of robins? how lovely Dick, you must be a pleasure to spend time with to be fair, i wouldnt give tuppence for your ability to spot a decent player.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2010 16:55:52 GMT 1
How International clearance on the opening day against Burton might have made a difference,
Hibbo stepped up and took his chance and never looked back really,
When you look at the stats though, Bright only started 5 games (if you include the Telford Senior Cup match) and scored 3 goals,
He was also given his full league debut away at Aldershot when we were heading down big time, partnering Cureton (who in my opinion didn't give a damm while he was hear,
Its pretty hard to make an impact as a sub with 10 minutes to go, just remember how malinged our midfield was last season for creating chances (or a lack of them) for the forwards
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Post by shrewswolf on Dec 8, 2010 17:08:24 GMT 1
Good decision for both the club and Kris. Say as much as you like about Bright not having chances, but two managers not seeing enough in him to give him a place in the starting 11 suggests they agree with what most thought of him after his cameo appearances. Not good enough. The fact he showed 'glimpses' shows how much we are clutching at straws to give an argument he was a good player for us. The fact is he did rarely start, but his sub appearances did little but hard work and bookings. Maybe he did only come on in 10-15 minute spells but making an impact is a sign of a great player and did that ever happen. Bradshaw took one 15 minute spell to show his quality. Good luck Kris, it never worked here but I'm sure it will somewhere else. I expect to see the lad scoring against us in the future, however this works for all.
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Post by stfcfan87 on Dec 8, 2010 17:46:00 GMT 1
Agree with Shrewsinwolf
I think the other telling point is that he's been on the transfer list for over a year (unless I've missed something) but not at any point even gone out on loan for just a month.
Think this was obviously going to happen, he's way down in the order and has been all season.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2010 19:47:21 GMT 1
How International clearance on the opening day against Burton might have made a difference, Hibbo stepped up and took his chance and never looked back really, When you look at the stats though, Bright only started 5 games (if you include the Telford Senior Cup match) and scored 3 goals, He was also given his full league debut away at Aldershot when we were heading down big time, partnering Cureton (who in my opinion didn't give a damm while he was hear, Its pretty hard to make an impact as a sub with 10 minutes to go, just remember how malinged our midfield was last season for creating chances (or a lack of them) for the forwards Would agree with this. I personally dont think he was up to the task but he wasnt helped by a) the unexpected form of Hibbert and then b) injuries. The fact is he started just 4 games for us so its no wonder he didnt make much of a impact. Whether he would have made more of a impact had those two factors not been there is extremely debatable, I must admit that I didnt see anything from him to suggest that was the case. Good luck to the lad, another Simpson mistake but as I said on the Constable thread theres not a lot you can do other than move on. I wonder in 2 years though whether we will be seeing "Turner made a big mistake in getting rid of Bright" and "Bright in big money move link" threads
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