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Post by heavenlyshrew on Dec 2, 2010 17:27:47 GMT 1
Really starting to hit the less well of now Goverment have cut back the money going into the youth service,i have been told by someone who would know that youth clubs are being chopped.The plan is to hand over the running of the clubs to local people to run.The Ditherington youth club does keep the young people off the street one night a week. Well done David and nick.Keep sending millions of pounds a day abroad and cut £50 a week and close a youth club
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2010 17:54:41 GMT 1
lock 'em up.
Thats one way to keep them off the street.
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Post by heavenlyshrew on Dec 2, 2010 18:00:25 GMT 1
You want innocent teenagers sent to prison
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Post by bananafeet on Dec 2, 2010 19:17:44 GMT 1
Wait til April when the new budget kicks in. Where will tramps go to get warm when librarys shut (joking apart, the budget is to be given the nod in January so thats where it will kick off in the press )
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Post by Shrewed on Dec 3, 2010 8:52:45 GMT 1
Welcome back Heavenly, have missed my daily laugh at your postings. I thought that for the first time ever I'd agree 100% with one of your posts then your xenophobia shone through. I agree that what the ConDems are doing with their cuts will be a disaster for the youth of this country but the ones to suffer should be those that can afford it not the poorest in the world.
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Post by WindsorShrew on Dec 3, 2010 14:54:24 GMT 1
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Post by simianus on Dec 3, 2010 14:58:46 GMT 1
you see the thing is, we could do this sort of thing all day. you pick him and then someone goes for archer and so on. surprised you support any party when it is plain that british politics are as corrupt as F.I.F.A.
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Post by WindsorShrew on Dec 3, 2010 19:38:22 GMT 1
Thats not the point and you know it, the courts picked him ergo the press picked him to be in the press today.
Have a dig at Archer or for that matter "Sword of Truth" Aitkin I care not the party here is irrelivant. The fact an MP stole money and I add our money resulted in less money being offered elsewhere.
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Post by shrewsace on Dec 3, 2010 20:14:49 GMT 1
They've cut the 'n' out of government! That really is going too far.
WindsorShrew in terms of the public's trust in politicians and the integrity of our political system the case you highlight is relevant and people are rightly p**sed off about it.
In relation to the economic crisis and the debt/deficit the MPs expenses scandal is completely irrelevant as, I suspect, you well know.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2010 20:28:14 GMT 1
Good post shrewsace.
I'd become worried about you. Since I've been busy on here again all I'd seen you post about was X Factor...... :-)
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Post by simianus on Dec 3, 2010 20:49:10 GMT 1
Thats not the point and you know it, the courts picked him ergo the press picked him to be in the press today. Have a dig at Archer or for that matter "Sword of Truth" Aitkin I care not the party here is irrelivant. The fact an MP stole money and I add our money resulted in less money being offered elsewhere. S dont think i need to dig at either tbh, and obviously this guy needs sorting out and sticking in prison too. my point was that it is largely irrelevant in this conversation which is about cuts not theft, and the fact that it is in the news today, for me is equally irrlevant. we could all come up with what we thought were wastes of money, from whenever, i am sure there are other stories today , this week , about whoever, from whatever party. If gordon hadnt sold the gold, if norman lamont hadnt ballsed things up, whatever, if we hadnt got involved in ww1. they all have an impact, but we will end up with a litany of different offences and wastes which have little to do with the actual point of the thread, which is cuts. it is almost as if you are trying to deflect attention from the point of the thread
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Post by Jonah on Dec 3, 2010 21:21:12 GMT 1
Welcome back Heavenly, have missed my daily laugh at your postings. I thought that for the first time ever I'd agree 100% with one of your posts then your xenophobia shone through. I agree that what the ConDems are doing with their cuts will be a disaster for the youth of this country but the ones to suffer should be those that can afford it not the poorest in the world. There was a time Ed when the youth of today actually earned the right to an education. Now they expect it Please explain to me why. What gives them the right in this economic climate to expect something for nothing. They are the future and if they are it is not very bright is it. No respect for authority blights our society and looking at the blatant law breaking by what should be the best educated of this generation doesn't bode well for the future does it. Unfortunately they have been given everything on a plate during the good times and I agreed they know no better. Life isn't fair so get used to it.
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Post by shrewsace on Dec 3, 2010 21:26:03 GMT 1
Good post shrewsace. I'd become worried about you. Since I've been busy on here again all I'd seen you post about was X Factor...... :-) Everyone has to succumb in the end! Nice seeing you back on the board, especially with some lines from the Manics' 'The Intense Humming of Evil' as your signature, if I'm not mistaken.
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Post by simianus on Dec 3, 2010 21:34:12 GMT 1
Welcome back Heavenly, have missed my daily laugh at your postings. I thought that for the first time ever I'd agree 100% with one of your posts then your xenophobia shone through. I agree that what the ConDems are doing with their cuts will be a disaster for the youth of this country but the ones to suffer should be those that can afford it not the poorest in the world. There was a time Ed when the youth of today actually earned the right to an education. Now they expect it Please explain to me why. What gives them the right in this economic climate to expect something for nothing. They are the future and if they are it is not very bright is it. No respect for authority blights our society and looking at the blatant law breaking by what should be the best educated of this generation doesn't bode well for the future does it. Unfortunately they have been given everything on a plate during the good times and I agreed they know no better. Life isn't fair so get used to it. are you real? i mean you arent some sort of trial from god or the ether sent to test us? you dont think people have a right to education? dont know how old you arebut, possibly the same rights as you enjoyed when you were at school? even from a staunch capitalist persprctive, do you not link education with better skilled and well adjusted workforce? what gives people the right to an education? get back to the 1800's where you belong.
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Post by shrewsace on Dec 3, 2010 21:39:00 GMT 1
Welcome back Heavenly, have missed my daily laugh at your postings. I thought that for the first time ever I'd agree 100% with one of your posts then your xenophobia shone through. I agree that what the ConDems are doing with their cuts will be a disaster for the youth of this country but the ones to suffer should be those that can afford it not the poorest in the world. There was a time Ed when the youth of today actually earned the right to an education. Now they expect it Please explain to me why. What gives them the right in this economic climate to expect something for nothing. They are the future and if they are it is not very bright is it. No respect for authority blights our society and looking at the blatant law breaking by what should be the best educated of this generation doesn't bode well for the future does it. Unfortunately they have been given everything on a plate during the good times and I agreed they know no better. Life isn't fair so get used to it. Weird post. How did the 'youth of today' once upon a time (your muddle, not mine!) 'earn' the right to an education? Why should today's children and teenagers not expect the education that previous generatiions benefitted from, including the current government and opposition? Why should they suffer from an economic slump triggered by the failure of the financial system and the government? Is educating our youth not an investment in our future rather than giving 'something for nothing'? Why do those in authority deserve respect when they - in the case of the Lib Dems - renege on election promises and in the case of the both seek to make those who did not trigger this crisis pay for it? In what way have today's youngsters been given it 'all on a plate' in the good times'? Do you condemn all the students who exercise their right to protest? How many of those who oppose and/or have protested against the government's rise in tuition fees have been charged with criminal offences?
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Post by Jonah on Dec 3, 2010 21:52:45 GMT 1
Well that didn't take long did it Of course education is a right of a civilized society but is the behavior of the demonstrators civilized Yes I am of an age were university, not quite the 1800, was probably a dream but did that stop me being successful? No which probably backs up my view that university life is lost on most.
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Post by simianus on Dec 3, 2010 21:59:56 GMT 1
Well that didn't take long did it Of course education is a right of a civilized society but is the behavior of the demonstrators civilized Yes I am of an age were university, not quite the 1800, was probably a dream but did that stop me being successful? No which probably backs up my view that university life is lost on most. hats another ridiculous statement, are you on a wind up?
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Post by shrewsace on Dec 3, 2010 22:05:22 GMT 1
Well that didn't take long did it Of course education is a right of a civilized society but is the behavior of the demonstrators civilized Yes I am of an age were university, not quite the 1800, was probably a dream but did that stop me being successful? No which probably backs up my view that university life is lost on most. Yes, I believe the behaviour of the vast majority of protestors was civilised. I don't just believe in the hypothetical 'right to protest' but condemn it in practice. Even if, for the sake of the argument, I accept that university is 'lost on most' why should selection be down to ability to pay rather than ability to learn?
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Post by shrewsace on Dec 3, 2010 22:06:27 GMT 1
Well that didn't take long did it Of course education is a right of a civilized society but is the behavior of the demonstrators civilized Yes I am of an age were university, not quite the 1800, was probably a dream but did that stop me being successful? No which probably backs up my view that university life is lost on most. hats another ridiculous statement, are you on a wind up? Would have benefitted from a few years at University, I reckon
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Post by Jonah on Dec 3, 2010 22:23:10 GMT 1
hats another ridiculous statement, are you on a wind up? Would have benefitted from a few years at University, I reckon Doubt it Ace because I would have classed that as wasted years. Easy for me at my age but a university education is not the be all and end all believe me. I obtained a post graduate degree at the age of 40 something. I won't bore you with the rest
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Post by Jonah on Dec 3, 2010 22:28:29 GMT 1
Monkee my post is no way near being as weird as your new name. See it you are probably so far up it
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Post by simianus on Dec 3, 2010 22:49:00 GMT 1
Monkee my post is no way near being as weird as your new name. See it you are probably so far up it yep definately need a bit of education if you ask me, google the name chap, you will find it is the latin for monkey, to be fair i thought people would get it pretty quickly which is why i used it i take it you have had a few beers or something, as that last sentence made as much sense as your antiquated views on the way the world should be. dont believe in the right to protest? wind up imo
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Post by simianus on Dec 3, 2010 22:50:50 GMT 1
hats another ridiculous statement, are you on a wind up? Would have benefitted from a few years at University, I reckon either that or some new batteries for the keyboard
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Post by WindsorShrew on Dec 3, 2010 22:52:35 GMT 1
I googled it and the latin for Gay Monkee is Matron .....do I win a prize....?
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Post by simianus on Dec 3, 2010 22:57:16 GMT 1
I googled it and the latin for Gay Monkee is Matron .....do I win a prize....? i think there is a prize, but you will have to turn your back and close you're eyes as it is a surprize
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Post by heavenlyshrew on Dec 3, 2010 22:59:35 GMT 1
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Post by simianus on Dec 3, 2010 23:03:45 GMT 1
Marcus you said you are in the sky with diamonds is that anything to do with drugs no it's a beatles song you plank but nice contribution to the debate
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Post by heavenlyshrew on Dec 3, 2010 23:06:42 GMT 1
Marcus you said you are in the sky with diamonds is that anything to do with drugs no it's a beatles song you plank but nice contribution to the debate I kmow it was a beatles song but was it not about drugs??
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Post by simianus on Dec 3, 2010 23:10:43 GMT 1
no it's a beatles song you plank but nice contribution to the debate I kmow it was a beatles song but was it not about drugs?? you know i dont think it was. as i remember it is about a girl Lennon knew at junior school. can you guess her name?
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Post by creature on Dec 3, 2010 23:12:16 GMT 1
Well, Paul McCartney says it was about a picture drawn by Julian Lennon, I seem to recall
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